Power set proliferation...could've been better

I'm always happy to see power sets proliferated, so please don't take this post as a sour grapes post. With that said, is anyone a little disappointed that the most wanted sets weren't proliferated.

Here's what would've made me jump for joy:

Blasters -Dark Blast (though I admit, Rad Blast is a fine choice)

Brutes - Regeneration

Controller - Dark Miasma

Corruptor - Poison (though Trick Arrow was a fine choice too)

Defender - Poison

Dominator - Illusion

MM - Kinetics

Scrapper - Super strength or energy melee or fire epic powers

Stalker - Shields or fire melee

Tanker - Spines or energy aura

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Well of course it could of been better if the sets you wanted didn't get ported.

Even if the sets you listed got ported, someone could have said it could've been better because they wanted the other powersets.

It will vary with different peoples opinions.

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Of course someone will complain it wasn't good enough or could have been better. 'Tis the nature of customers.

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Some of the powersets you mention would be interesting to have on some ATs. For example, with their higher resistance limit and higher HP, I feel like regen would be almost to the point of overpowered on Brutes. Granted, regen is a %, but with a higher base, the same % = more healing.

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Well of course it could of been better if the sets you wanted didn't get ported.

Even if the sets you listed got ported, someone could have said it could've been better because they wanted the other powersets.

It will vary with different peoples opinions.

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Well sorta. Some ATs only got either a primary or secondary although there were appropriate choices available. Examples:

Brutes - Still could have Regen, Ice, Ninjitsu (well maybe) but only got a primary (claws)

Dominators - Could have gotten Illusion (in fact, that's all they need to be finished with primaries), but only got a secondary (Earth Assault)

What's really goofy here is that they'll probably have to create a few powers from scratch where Illusion could just port over.

Stalkers - Could have gotten Ice, Fire, Invul (ok lol to that, but still) but only got a primary (Broadsword).

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I'm mostly happy, but would have preferred Traps for Controllers, Axe for Stalkers ( "Executioner's Axe !" * CHOP ! ! * ), Ninjutsu for Scrappers, and Illusion for Doms. Still, what we are getting is quite nice.

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I'm always happy to see power sets proliferated, so please don't take this post as a sour grapes post. With that said, is anyone a little disappointed that the most wanted sets weren't proliferated.

Here's what would've made me jump for joy:

Blasters -Dark Blast (though I admit, Rad Blast is a fine choice)

Brutes - Regeneration

Controller - Dark Miasma

Corruptor - Poison (though Trick Arrow was a fine choice too)

Defender - Poison

Dominator - Illusion

MM - Kinetics

Scrapper - Super strength or energy melee or fire epic powers

Stalker - Shields or fire melee

Tanker - Spines or energy aura

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Maybe next time.

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I'm always happy to see power sets proliferated, so please don't take this post as a sour grapes post. With that said, is anyone a little disappointed that the most wanted sets weren't proliferated.

Here's what would've made me jump for joy:

Blasters -Dark Blast (though I admit, Rad Blast is a fine choice)

Brutes - Regeneration

Controller - Dark Miasma

Corruptor - Poison (though Trick Arrow was a fine choice too)

Defender - Poison

Dominator - Illusion

MM - Kinetics

Scrapper - Super strength or energy melee or fire epic powers

Stalker - Shields or fire melee

Tanker - Spines or energy aura

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Maybe next time.

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Only problem with that is that there is, so far, a year between proliferations.

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I'm still not convinced that Regen is a good idea for Brutes...much less Tanks.

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I'm always happy to see power sets proliferated, so please don't take this post as a sour grapes post. With that said, is anyone a little disappointed that the most wanted sets weren't proliferated.

Here's what would've made me jump for joy:

Blasters -Dark Blast (though I admit, Rad Blast is a fine choice)

Brutes - Regeneration

Controller - Dark Miasma

Corruptor - Poison (though Trick Arrow was a fine choice too)

Defender - Poison

Dominator - Illusion

MM - Kinetics

Scrapper - Super strength or energy melee or fire epic powers

Stalker - Shields or fire melee

Tanker - Spines or energy aura

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Maybe next time.

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Only problem with that is that there is, so far, a year between proliferations.

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Indeed. I wish there was less "time" in next time and more "next".

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Just going to note here as a "glass half full" guy to try and lift your spirits:

Dear Castle didn't shoot down any ideas, which I've seen him do out and about when things like Ice Brutes come up, meaning all those sets are potentials or even sitting on the table to be trimmed and manicured a bit to fit into the archetypes suggested, meaning poison corrs and kin mms are indeed doable and wanted by the devs, they just didn't quite make this cut, and that's understandable.

Also keep in mind, two sets does not a benchmark make. Yeah there's roughly a year between the first proliferation and this, but that doesn't mean that the next batch is that far out. For all we know i17 could have some proliferation, or even Going Rogue. Just keep your chin up, we got some sweet new power access for every archetype and I'm not gonna look a gift horse in the mouth. Just enjoy what we've got for now and by the time you start pining for more I get the feeling it'll be almost ready for release.

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Stalkers - Could have gotten Ice, Fire, Invul (ok lol to that, but still) but only got a primary (Broadsword).

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I wonder what Ice armor will be like for stalkers cause hibernoob is already in the ppp's for them.

Agreed Ill for doms would be ftw, but overall it is a decent and long overdue round of proliferation.

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Maybe next time.

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Woo!

Regardless of the possibility of getting some of the requested sets here, I'm pretty happy with this set of proliferation. I was thrilled with the original power proliferation announcement, but I haven't had any desire to use any of the prior proliferated sets. This new one will have some that I've been hoping for.

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Semi-related: Castle, can you at least confirm or deny that the list shown on the site (Rad Blast for Blasters, etc) is comprehensive? Is it just a 'these are some of' list, or is that all the ones being ported? Just to direct the speculation from here, so we don't get several months of "But there could be more!" if there isn't going to be.

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I'm always happy to see power sets proliferated, so please don't take this post as a sour grapes post. With that said, is anyone a little disappointed that the most wanted sets weren't proliferated.

Here's what would've made me jump for joy:

Blasters -Dark Blast (though I admit, Rad Blast is a fine choice)

Brutes - Regeneration

Controller - Dark Miasma

Corruptor - Poison (though Trick Arrow was a fine choice too)

Defender - Poison

Dominator - Illusion

MM - Kinetics

Scrapper - Super strength or energy melee or fire epic powers

Stalker - Shields or fire melee

Tanker - Spines or energy aura

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Maybe next time.

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Can we have Electric Control for Dominators and Controllers as well? PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE!

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The thing I've wanted most from power proliferation is a punchy, street fighter, slugfest set for Scrappers. But there's a possibility that's now going to be handled with MA's alternate animations, so looking forward to seeing how that works out.

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Semi-related: Castle, can you at least confirm or deny that the list shown on the site (Rad Blast for Blasters, etc) is comprehensive? Is it just a 'these are some of' list, or is that all the ones being ported? Just to direct the speculation from here, so we don't get several months of "But there could be more!" if there isn't going to be.

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This! ^^^^

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The thing I've wanted most from power proliferation is a punchy, street fighter, slugfest set for Scrappers. But there's a possibility that's now going to be handled with MA's alternate animations, so looking forward to seeing how that works out.

[/ QUOTE ]I was thinking the same thing. If there's some punches in the options, I may have to rethink some plans.

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so how are Io's gonna work in this process....???

are all power switches gonna be transferable??

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I'm completely satisfied with this iteration of powerset proliferation. The only set I've really been hoping to see that didn't happen this time is Illusion to Dominators. Other than that, this group hits all the ones I wanted.

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so how are Io's gonna work in this process....???

are all power switches gonna be transferable??

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What power switches? How will having new Powersets available have anything to do with the IOs of existing characters?

Powerset Proliferation is going to be opening up new Powersets for players at Character Creation.

You will be able to create a new Archery / Trick Arrow Corruptor. You will not be able to (and never have been able to) Respec your Assault Rifle / Traps Corruptor into an Archery Trick / Arrow Corruptor.

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The main reason I think Illusion might be "iffy" to be ported over to Doms is because in the hands of a Controller, the PA and pet are doing most of the damage, so it being able to soak up all the aggro with invulnerable pets isn't as big of a deal. For a Dom, however, with them able (especially now) to throw down nearly Blaster-level damage, having a trio of invulnerable pets to soak all the aggro/attacks may be borderline overpowered. Given the propensity to shoot for massive amount of +recharge to get domination up as often as possible, you're looking at perma-PA as well.

While it would be fun, I'm not expecting Illusion to be ported over to Doms anytime soon.

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so how are Io's gonna work in this process....???

are all power switches gonna be transferable??

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Wha? Are you under the impression that powerset proliferation will allow you to change an existing character? That's not the case...proliferation simply means that you can make new characters with powersets that were previously unavailable to a given AT

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Energy Melee for Scrappers is pretty much the only thing I want to see in the future of this game that hasn't been announced yet.

Going Rogue stuff? Awesome. Power customization and more proliferation? Fantastic.

But for the love of god, please do whatever it takes to get Energy Melee into the Scrappers' hands! They're the only AT that gets melee attacks that doesn't have it; Tankers, Blasters, Brutes, Stalkers, and Dominators all have Energy Melee attacks.

Lower the damage, take out the stun component... I don't care. It's the only thing that fits thematically for a character I've been wanting to build since the game came out.

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I'm still not convinced that Regen is a good idea for Brutes...much less Tanks.

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Regen would've sucked on a Tank, big time.

I also wanted Stalkers to get Fiery Melee.

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