Tempest_56

That's what I thought. So it procs as if it were a 4s power, not a 90s recharge power (or like another psuedopet like a rain). Good to know.

Same here - did so yesterday, in fact. The Honoree did NOT require me to defeat the Rikti that had spawned in the room.

It works, and it's very worthwhile. My Storm/Elec has it, my wife's Ill/Storm has it, and so does two or three other people I know of with Storm characters. The big bonus is that Lightning Storm's strike is actually a very small AoE. So you CAN get multiple targets with it. The hold proc in LS is probably the best thing you can slap in there.

The point is that you're missing mine. I'm not making an evaluation about your ranking of sets - I've said nothing about how any one of those sets is better than another. Your counter-argument is flawed because you're assuming that I'm saying you're wrong in your final conclusion. I'm not. I'm saying that the data you're basing it on is not what you present it as.

Opinions are fine - we all have them. But when you post up a data chunk to justify yourself, you should expect others to look at that data. And in this case, it's woefully incomplete. You say 'this is raw data with no counting on recharge times' when recharge times are in fact very important. Or referring to Dark Armor as a 'combo' set when an even vaguely experienced DA player knows it's not (+def slightly better than Combat Jumping in a stealth power does not a combination set make). Or that the endurance drain in Electric Armor is not, in fact, important - Arcanaville did the number crunching in regards to that some time ago and mathematically showed that the -end aspects of it actually play a huge role. You give no indication to any of these things and more. Your numbers are inherently lacking as a result, and can not provide any form of definitive proof of anything.

Your opinion is not wrong. Opinions, by their nature, are very rarely wrong. But your data is. If you're going to use data to try and present your opinion as fact, you should be prepared to have others point out the flaws in your data. If you can't handle that, then you shouldn't be presenting the data in the first place. I have no intention of attacking your opinion - I have every intention of attacking your lackluster and paper-thin 'proof'.

(For reference? My opinion is Fire/EA. From my own experiences playing both sets, EA is far weaker than Elec in defensive terms. And Fire Melee brings even less to the table for EA. But that's just my opinion.)

There are so many things wrong with your evaluation that it's hilarious.

- You fail to account for offensive or utility aspects in sets. +damage from Against All Odds? Missing. Fiery Embrace? Not mentioned at all. Quick Recovery? Nah, who cares about that.

- Non-standard defensive measures are ALSO ignored. No mention is made, for example, of Dark Armor's mez auras which are so key. Or to Elec's sapping. Or Granite!

- Holes in the defenses are also utterly missed. You're comparing defensive sets and you decided that Fire not having KB protection wasn't worth mentioning?

- Heck, the evaluation falls entirely flat on the first two sets you compare.
You forget to mention that while both sets have a 25% heal, one recharges in 120s and the other in 40s. They're not even vaguely equivalent! That doesn't even get into the issue that one's available at 4 and the other at 28. Or that Elec's +regen is tied to that heal.

In all, congratulations you can add numbers from Mid's. However, that's worthless as a tool for comparison. You're completely ignoring too many aspects, several of which are core components of the respective sets.

I did. And sinec Ajax survived... it makes me wonder where he is now.

Thus alternating controls - presume 30 seconds per spawn, and the 90 second recharges. Mass Confuse one. TD the next. Then Mass Hyp the third. By the fourth, MC is up again, and you still have Terrify in your pocket as needed. It isn't as efficient as Ice Slick, but by no means is it not effective.

I must disagree here. Terrify's cone size is absolutely massive (90 degree cone, 60ft range, I believe?) and easily perma-able. And while Fear is less universal than a KD patch, Mind has three other AoE mez powers as well. I find it difficult to grasp anyone finding the set to not be a solid AoE lockdown set.

On Mind/Elec in particular, I agree with the general opinion. Deadly solo. Still pretty good teamed, but not the best. I've found that solo play is very aggressive (open with Terrify/Static Discharge, then close in an start punching), while teamed is very laid back (staying at range, spamming controls and ranged blasts). I also want to cast a vote for Levitate over Mesmerize - solid damage, Smashing to give you some more variety, and it's still a boss-negating power. My standby is Dominate-Levitate-Dominate. Sure, it takes two applications to hold the boss. They're in the air for the whole time, though, so who cares?

This is the summary of that setup. You're not the best at anything, but you're also good at everything. It's THE best all-around blaster in the game.

This seems to have been missed, but it bears re-iterating. Claws/DA is an amazing combo. A fast, low-end primary that has solid mitigation and positioning tools coupled with a secondary that needs good timing, position control and end management.

Need a cluster to fuel the AWESOME power of Dark Regen? Shockwave!

Boss hitting you too much to recover easily? Focus spam!

Need more AoE damage? Follow Up buffs Death Shroud!

The two have great synergy, and I heartily support their play.

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Nitpick: Castle did remove the -speed debuff.