Suppose an emulator shows up, How many of you would go on?
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Posted on: 2012-10-11 17:34 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
I might log into it for nostalgia -- fly around the city, hit a few things, then log out.
I don't see an emulated server occupying the same role as the current game: a long-term, routinely returned-to source of entertainment.
yes I would.
If we can get an emulator for the current Beta; I'd be all for it.
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If there's one with the community I want to be around, I'd give it a go.
If not, probably use it for access to the costume creator.
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This, if the emulator allowed me and a friend to start TFs then hellz yeah.
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Originally Posted by Reiraku
I would. If the modified it so that things like TFs could be started solo and kept everything else the same as now, I'd likely never stop.
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I would play a local "let me bash them all" emulator for one... me... with no regrets or concern. As long as it worked, and I could solo brutes and tanks and scrappers and such, sure, why not? It's a method to get agression out without taking a hammer to someones face, say.*
But an online one? Not... sure I'd want to, unless there were enough community to support it... and it wasn't constantly being chased/shut down by NCSoft.
Which, as a side track, is the weirdest part. Yes, it costs some money to keep Paragon *working* on it... but what's the cost to just keep it running, as a legacy, a tribute to the work that was done on it?
But that's for another thread, and rather selfish to ask, I admit, given people's jobs/lives were screwed on that awful August day.
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Absolutely.
I'd not choose an emulator over a Paragon Studios developed game, but if there's only an emulator version? Zero question.
I love playing this game. Often times, I play solo. Other times playing with my wife and good friends.
While I love both this game and the community, they've both always been somewhat separate things (which sometimes combined in various ways).
Plus, it's entirely possible that a great community could take form around an emulated CoH. I'm not counting on that, but it is certainly possible.
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I very much relate to this and feel the same.
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Now that you mention it, how much does it cost to be forever on the lookout for emulated servers, finding out who's responsible for it and then sending out cease and desist letters?|
Originally Posted by houtex
Which, as a side track, is the weirdest part. Yes, it costs some money to keep Paragon *working* on it... but what's the cost to just keep it running, as a legacy, a tribute to the work that was done on it?
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If the community doing that was large enough, how much would it cost NCSoft to play whack-a-mole trying to squash private servers that kept popping up?
I suppose if that sort of thing was big enough, it might have been cheaper in the long run for them to keep the game officially online, lol.
Sorry. Dreaming.
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Depends on how many are made. Remember the music sharing fiasco where they couldnt find a single person or shut down all file sharing in charge so they started to sue to users that they managed to catch. |
Originally Posted by Coyote_Seven
Now that you mention it, how much does it cost to be forever on the lookout for emulated servers, finding out who's responsible for it and then sending out cease and desist letters?
If the community doing that was large enough, how much would it cost NCSoft to play whack-a-mole trying to squash private servers that kept popping up? I suppose if that sort of thing was big enough, it might have been cheaper in the long run for them to keep the game officially online, lol. Sorry. Dreaming. |
Ironically I still thing there are some music sharing sites still otu there but from what I hear is that they are no where near as popular or used as much when users thing that any moment this could be a download with a line on it and be sued beyond the means they are able to pay. Some people feel the risk is well worth it and go underground and some people rather not chance it especially when it only cost a mere dollar per song on many sites that are good reputation. No matter what they do or did they wont totally end music but it didnt get super out of control as it would of if theyjust let it go on.
And speaking of chances and whack a mole, they might be just as tenactious as the Save CIty of Heroes campaign. Knowing they have nearly no chance getting the results they want but some how it make sense for them to try anyways instead of just "laying down" as they call it now, and leaving it be. Not to mention that they may not be able to shut down all but that doesnt mean they wont try to get the ones they can get. And then if the emulator is going to be online, then finding someone who is in charge of it shouldnt be too hard. If it's offline, then it would be harder unless they track down someone who is making money from it by selling it, or someone charging access to it. More than likely they already havea department that they are paying for already to deal with this stuff.
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Originally Posted by mauk2
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I would be happy if it just allowed demorecord playbacks.
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Exactly. Going lawsuit happy didn't even put a dent in music piracy. What finally killed it was the music industry waking up and deciding to actually give people what they wanted. Granted it took Apple poking them with a sharp stick repeatedly to force the issue and point them in the right direction (music company execs are a little slow), but it worked.|
Originally Posted by Evil_Legacy
Ironically I still thing there are some music sharing sites still otu there but from what I hear is that they are no where near as popular or used as much when users thing that any moment this could be a download with a line on it and be sued beyond the means they are able to pay. Some people feel the risk is well worth it and go underground and some people rather not chance it especially when it only cost a mere dollar per song on many sites that are good reputation. No matter what they do or did they wont totally end music but it didnt get super out of control as it would of if theyjust let it go on.
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Sure, a few people still do it, but the majority just buy it on iTunes or Amazon. They weren't pirating music because they're cheapskates, they were doing it because it was more convenient and closer to what they actually wanted than the music industry was offering. They wanted the ability to download just the tracks they want for a reasonable price, and play them back on any device they want.
I underlined that because it's an important part of the equation, and is a big part of why the industry's early attempts at digital distribution failed -- people just didn't want DRM-laden crap that could stop working because they got a new computer or because some company pulled a kill switch.
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That's the one thing we will have regardless. Our clients will still play back demos, no internet/server connections required. Same as it is right now.
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Originally Posted by Father Xmas
I would be happy if it just allowed demorecord playbacks.
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@Zethustra
"Now at midnight all the agents and the superhuman crew come out
and round up everyone that knows more than they do"-Dylan
and round up everyone that knows more than they do"-Dylan
I would be all for it. City of Heroes must live... even if it has to live on each and every individual household server.
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I would . Triumph is my main server.
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Originally Posted by DarkBlaster_NA
Read the title.
While i think CoH has some of the best combat in any MMO ever, Eventually i get bored and want to start teaming/roleplaying and such, So i'm curious as to how many of you folks would join in on that, and how many of you are from virtue xD. |
If i trusted the people who made it not to make it a virus delivery service, hell yeah, Happily.
Yes. And I'd pay a box fee and a monthly sub, even for things frozen just as they are now.
Apparently the new motto for the community is:
"We are heroes. We don't give a sh*t if it's illegal."
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You seem to have this strange idea that all heroes adhere to the letter of the law.|
Originally Posted by Brillig
Apparently the new motto for the community is:
"We are heroes. We don't give a sh*t if it's illegal." |
In this game's context, I think Manticore would be amused by your Statesman-like ramrod ethics.
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Technically speaking, everything from the powers information I've provided to the community over the years to Leandro's demo tools could be construed as either illegal under the DCMA or a violation of the EULA of the game. Just by encouraging people to save demorecords of game content, I'm encouraging people to preserve copies of the game client, which when the game shuts down they will no longer legally have a license to use in any manner whatsoever.|
Originally Posted by Brillig
Apparently the new motto for the community is:
"We are heroes. We don't give a sh*t if it's illegal." |
An emulator for a dead game is something that is technically illegal, but I would lose no sleep over if I discovered existed, particularly if it was being used in a non-commercial manner for people to preserve and continue their game-playing experiences.
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Well in all truth City of Heroes AND City of Villains. |
Originally Posted by Brillig
Apparently the new motto for the community is:
"We are heroes. We don't give a sh*t if it's illegal." |
The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
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Great, wasn't sure if the client first looked for the server before playing them back.
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Originally Posted by Electric-Knight
That's the one thing we will have regardless. Our clients will still play back demos, no internet/server connections required. Same as it is right now.
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Originally Posted by Brillig
Apparently the new motto for the community is:
"We are heroes. We don't give a sh*t if it's illegal." |
I never bought into that slogan being thrown around. We're not heroes (most of us,) we play them in video games (some of us.)
Beyond that, you gonna keep trollin until shutdown?
Be well, people of CoH.
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Nope. Its "we are villians, and what's ours is ours." |
Originally Posted by Brillig
Apparently the new motto for the community is:
"We are heroes. We don't give a sh*t if it's illegal." |
I would be on an emulator in a blue streak.
Was reading an article the other day about Blizzard locking everyone in Iran out of WoW WITH NO REFUNDS, due to US sanctions [and hahahaha on that one, brilliant!] and someone in the comments section said that a development house just ripping away characters that people have given real-time time and effort to, was just EVIL.
Good point, although admittedly I don't care much about what happens to the hostile forces in the Persian Gulf area. But NCSoft ripping *our* stuff away with no reaon nor warning is in fact, evil.
Got no problem dodging that bullet if possible. If NCSoft does not like that, they can modify their behavior.
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Originally Posted by Bad_Influence
Nope. Its "we are villians, and what's ours is ours."
I would be on an emulator in a blue streak. Was reading an article the other day about Blizzard locking everyone in Iran out of WoW WITH NO REFUNDS, due to US sanctions [and hahahaha on that one, brilliant!] and someone in the comments section said that a development house just ripping away characters that people have given real-time time and effort to, was just EVIL. Good point, although admittedly I don't care much about what happens to the hostile forces in the Persian Gulf area. But NCSoft ripping *our* stuff away with no reaon nor warning is in fact, evil. Got no problem dodging that bullet if possible. If NCSoft does not like that, they can modify their behavior. |
But either way it seems a bit odd to do that. If it was evil to do it to us, with refunds, it is surely evil to do it to them without refunds. Yet I think one importance difference is that Blizzard probably didnt have much say in the matter, compared to NCSoft.
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Originally Posted by mauk2
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This game is terrible without the community on its A game
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