Incomming Two-handed weapons

The actual game mechanic sounds awesome. Giant swords? Unrelentingly stupid.

Which is really weird when you consider the other powersets in the game that I don't even blink an eye at.

Like I said in another thread...

I really hope a big Ball and Chain is an option for this set.

All I'd need then is some American Football gear and I could make my Blood Bowl Goblin Fanatic..mysteriously transported through time and space to the world of the mighty boosh...sorry the world of Paragon and the Rogue Isles.

As for the chain sword debate, why a chain sword? Why not an old rusty chainsaw? Both are good for me.

I was also hoping for a Polearm set in the future, but if it's not to be, then how about adding a scythe, tetsubo and/or naginata?

Giant Lance.
Massive Hammer.
Tree.




BP Totem head... on a stick (might make a good Shield design too)



Oh, can we get Ginormous Firearms as well?


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I still hole there's something that looks like a more proper two-handed sword, though. Again, I love the Buster sword in there, but a double-edged, sharp-tipped sword is also a must-have.

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Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

Can not use w/ Sheild defense?

Because wouldn't you have to have a whole second set of animations for that pairing?

Or.... shiiii... would you be constantly putting away and drawing the new thing? Ugh

Speaking of the new mechanic this set will have, I find it rather unjarring that *this* set gets it. Unless the animation starts out monumentally slow to begin with (which I can hear now being complained about) then speeds up to *juuuuust* beyond par, I don't see why a Katana can't have momentum or an axe or some such.

That said, I remember discussing a 'momentum' mechanic with Sam. His was basically a recharge enhancement system where, each subsequent attack gave a recharge buff to your other melee attacks. Mine was more convoluted in that, if attacks ever missed, you'd retain the momentum of the attack that'd translate to added damage for subsequent attacks with a type of 'wind up' power in place of Build Up to instantly build up momentum.

But this was all a work-around for a mechanic that we thought wasn't possible but now seems to be.

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Originally Posted by Dispari How many options does a player have if they want to use a smash/lethal modern weapon? Three ranged, six melee (soon to be seven), and three extras in Masterminds. Of all those, three (four soon) are just swords. But what options does a player have if they want do control radiation, plants, or gravity? Basically 1-2 options max, across all ATs and options, not even limiting it to subsets like "melee only." Just Scrappers alone have more options for swords than you can find for something like illusion across every AT. The same issues plague concepts like Earth or Psi. They're good ideas that don't stretch to a wide variety of ATs or powersets. If you want Earth you pretty much have Doms, Tanks, and Brutes. You can put Earth on Controllers, but can't pair it with anything. And as there's no Earth Blast, Earth Minions, or Earth Support, your options are highly limited. Psi doesn't show up at all in melee classes. So I feel it's strange to repeatedly expand on something that's already well-represented while not fleshing out things that could use work. And I don't doubt the devs have the creativity to come up with even more options than that, giving us something more unique that isn't just a melee version of an already exiting concept. During one of the votes one of the options was electric hammer, which would've at least been more interesting than another sword set. And they've put out things like Kin Melee. They could come up with something completely unique like, say, a melee set where you attack using a swarm of insects. And as long as we're at "settle for X and pretend it's Y," why not just add new models and use Broadsword or Katana instead of making a new big sword set? And then put effort toward something that really needs more options, like Manipulation and Assault sets.

First of all, this 'Titan Weapon' set isn't a 'sword set', it's a weapon set that could include smashy type attacks or bulky swords too. As for uniqueness in damage type, AFAIK, no set currently does both smashing and lethal damage. It's either or, not both, except for specific powers like Grenades and trip mines so that could be something new. Anyway, so why say 'four sword sets' when it's still only 3?

Secondly, I believe the devs are stepping away from the generic and doing more specific themes primarily because you can't do much with generic. An 'Earth support' set or a 'Psi Melee' set would have to fulfill a specific criteria to be such and adding anything new might affect the 'theme' such elements would bring along with them.

So forget about Earth Blast, Plant Melee, Illusion Support, so on and so forth. In the same vein as Kinetic Melee (which can be just as good for Psi Melee, Wind Melee, heck, even Illusion Melee), look for something like 'Dust Blast', 'Whip Assault', or something unlike what would 'fit' with basic themes. Why? Because when theses powers can encapsulate strange effects, they're more interesting and when they are thematically vague, that leaves the player room to come up with their own theme/explanation for the effects provided. Basically, you can have generic specific 'Earth Blast' or make something like 'Dust Blast' which could work for wind type abilities, sand type abilities, illusion type abilities, smoke type abilities, and any other stuff that would work with the visuals.

It's more about what you can do with the visuals rather than filling out a theme of related powersets.

Does this mean we get a certain Aztec weapon?

Given that the rusty blade enhanced wooden block is impaled with other pointy things, It's CLEAR that we'll be able to parry lethal damage with them...

Yay, Tanks get Parry...

j/k, but I can hope.

Sounds fun, though I'd almost rather a polearms or quarterstaff set. Or is that possible with all this work too?

How about a tiny hybrid car impaled on a large branch, akin to Jurassik's Car-on-a-tree weapon? =D

A dismembered giant robot on the end of a pike?

A Traffic light (those things are pretty big!)?

*shrugs*

I always thought a chainsaw would be a totally appropriate weapon for a brute although the stalker port might have some issues

Eww. ew..ew... A Nemesis Staff! Used as a melee weapon!

The barrel of a tank. I hope the devs realize that this power set needs to have a lot of ridiculous weapon models.