Incomming Two-handed weapons

Seeing as how my namesake is a time manipulator, I love the idea of this set. I am worried about whether or not it will be good, or if I will like it.

However, with the thought that these powersets have to be paid for to use, I'm keeping up hope these sets are awesome, because I'm sure they want people to buy them.

I'm guessing on the set I love, Dual Pistols, and will be pairing with /Time Manip, being considered so lackluster, that may not have been willing to buy it in such a game model (purchase powerset) except for the completionists and the ones who really wanted it for concept.

So, I figure the devs really need to make all these new sets they plan to sell pretty awesome...perhaps to the point of making them become FotY. We already see people who skip relatively (and Im not saying its a common) okay sets/middle of the road sets, in favor of the sets considered the BEST in whatever category.

"Pfff, amateur"

Good, then don't. The Ninja Run + Shield combo for my monkey Martial Arts Scrapper is perfect for him and him alone

Occasionally he drops to all fours but only with his vanguard shield.

You and me both. I'm thinking, if they had concept art for one-sided blades and direction oriented doo-dads for the other, the animations would be swinging the weapon in a specific motion so the business end is always facing the attack. This can work for a scythe (well enough if you ask me) and I feel the 'slow' feeling would kind of work in Stalker's favor since their attacks usually come first from hide and without the foe being aware. Then the fact it'll do high burst at the start then keep ramping up should mean it'll have decent DPS.

That said, I hope they take the Kinetic Melee route and give the set a bleh/meh attack/utility power that will then be replaced for AS...and I wonder what the AS will be named...Assassin's Clobber? Assassin's Crush? Assassin's OMG it's coming this way!!?

It has 3 unlocks (rikti and a couple of crey) that look okay, but considering the full array of possible science fiction energy weapons the list size is sad. Maybe we would see a couple more if they ever made a pure Pulse Rifle power set, though in that case I'm sure some people would be unhappy about another weapon set (and a partially scavenged one at that) being added.

Whenever I play Dynasty Warriors, Guan Yu is my favorite character. My friends frequently say they know the second I've arrived to help them because all of a sudden a bunch of enemies would go flying past their view do to my running introductory swing of that beautiful weapon. I wonder if there is any way for them to build in some detection for length of time running around (even in circles) prior to an attack as an alternative to the Charging Strike mechanics?

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

Now now, Sam, not all women like their weapons large.

At least, that's what she told me...

Agreed! In fact, I'd say make them look huge on the Huge models, then keep them the same size on the female models!

The only good thing about Broadsword as it is now, is using the Legacy Broadsword on a short model

Gah!

Stop posting things that I agree with, you're making me look like a synchophant!

Meh. While a Shape shifting *AT* (doubt you'd see a power set for this) would be interesting, it's never going to be what people want unless it's extensively customizable. That is, color the actual shifted character model with accessories and auras, color the powers, choose *what* powers, so on and so forth. As is, the current shape shifting classes should simply be expanded on and the lore enhanced to explain new shapes along with extending customization to them. Without that, what's the difference between this and being stuck with ugly old granite armor?

As for the prospect of new/unique sets, I'm more keen on using the mechanics we have or could have to utilize new and interesting powers and sets. I could care less if it's a new weapon, a new pool or whatever, but we could probably use Warshade 'corpse' tech in some interestingly thematic set, or the Swap Ammo tech for a control or armor set, or Fiery Embrace's new added base effect for some new pet set or Combos for *something more*. It doesn't have to be a complete rippoff either, just adding extra flavor to other things. Boy would I like a *ranged* power that used the jumping mechanic (like Chain Induction) that didn't require Incarnate. Jolting Chain, yes, but perhaps a debuff instead. A contagion of sorts...or even a jumping heal.

Meh, I was never a fan of the whole 'separate powerset' thing. I'd have rather they just made fewer sets with more customization such as in the effects and the weapon choice. Similarly, I'd have loved it had they simply added 2-handed animations to Axe/Mace/BS with appropriate weapon models. Then there'd be room for one handed katana animations (either reverse grip or maybe iaidou type animations), one-handed claws, double-sided dual blades and so forth. Currently, that's more work than just adding a new set, but in the beginning, it might have been less work-intensive.

But even so, since we can't just add to the current sets but instead make new sets, we're kind of stuck needing a new set for the plethora of different weapon types. So will we have to wait for staves? Spears? Will we ever get them? They aren't wielded in the same fashion so need new animations...but if they become new sets, then we'll have to create effects for their powers and balance them.

All in all, I think they could simply work around this and *make* Titan Weapons into the staff set too, the mechanic of momentum kind of works for it too...

Hmm

Titan Weapon tier 7: Blade Smacked (PBAoE self toggle), anything that gets near you will most likely run into your weapon. Only active while running with weapon drawn or attacking.

Ah, yes, so much THIS! Amusingly, this is how it used to be before weapon customization. Because weapons weren't costume items but instead power system props, they couldn't scale to the model, and so they had to be big enough for the Huge model's hand to hold. That's why the female Legacy Broadsword (easily my favourite of the swords) is so big - it's the Huge model weapon.

For Titanic Weapons, this is precisely what I want to see. Make a weapon that looks really big on the Huge model, and just let other models use the same size weapon. Because when I think "Titanic," I think a sword that's as long from tip to hilt jewel as my character is tall from heel to skull cap, and about as wide from side to side as my character is from shoulder to shoulder. I don't want just a slightly bigget sword or axe. I don't want just a longer mace. I want something that's distinctively big enough to be called its own weapon. I want a weapon that, when stood up on the ground, is as big as I am. Something that would take real super strength and firm footing besides to wield, not just a slightly larger weapon.

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I'm going to set down a rule right now, and I will campaign for this rule to come true: When Titanic Weapons come out, I want the smallest of these weapons, when held by a Female character, to still be bigger than the biggest weapon the Huge model has access to right now, at least proportionately speaking.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

I hate to say this he is right they are making it for Issue 21 or 22 or whatever, however however I am sure he got the info off of one of the Coffee talks of last week, a Giant ff7 blade, a old worn blade and yeah a Rail Road Crossing Sign Sigh.

There's a problem with that which we've discussed in the past - not all weapons are appropriate to all animations. One big problem with using existing swords with two-handed animations is that BABs specifically and intentionally made them all with very short, one-handed hilts. Barring swords borrowed from Katana, there isn't anywhere for the character to grip, say, a Chineese Longsword with two hands. The hilt is barely large enough to accommodate one, whereas a two-handed weapon hilt would need to account not just for the size of two hands, but also leave a sizable gap between the hands so as to provide leverage. That can't happen with the current Broadswords.

Then there are War Mace and Battle Axe. They do have long handles, but almost all of the Axe and Mace options are very, very short. At least swords are generally long weapons that might not look goofy wielded with two hands (small daggers notwithstanding). Axes and Maces aren't long weapons. They're short, wide and kind of fat. Exactly the wrong kind of weapon to wield with two hands, at least if you want it to look good.

With this in mind, I'm VERY interested to see how they handle Titanic Weapons when the set will apparently span weapon classes.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

Agreed!

I want it to look like one needs Super Strength to wield it! Suuuure...my character won't have super strength to wield it...but damn if she won't look like she has super strength!

Make that Buster Sword HUGE!

Titan Weapons / Electric Armor?

Which is why I amended 'with appropriate weapon models' to that sentence

My apologies. I've seen the "let me stab people with a hammer" suggestion so many times I'm starting to see it where it doesn't exist

I'm not sure if I agree with multi-weapon-class sets or not at this point. I guess we'll have to see what they do with Titanic Weapons first before I can pass judgement.

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Also, just because it bears repeating: I am extremely excited about this set. That's all I care about right now, and probably all I'll care about for at least the next few days. If anyone thought I complained too much, you're in for a couple of weeks of Happy Sam. And if I see more info on the set in that time, that period might be extended.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

/signed :P Your set would fit this fantastically, Dechs!

People balked when I said the devs would deliver a Tri-Blades set with three swords because they can't stop making weapon sets.

They doubled that for six blades. I am vindicated.



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Do you want me drooling on my keyboard? Because that's what Dual Blade Buster Swords would have me doing!