Incomming Two-handed weapons
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Posted on: 2011-06-23 11:29 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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How about a lawn mower attached to some kind of handle, then?
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
Allow me to speak from personal experience when I tell you that you're speaking of a rigorously defended IP.
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Titan Weapon/Electric Armor!
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Originally Posted by Necrotron_RO
And hence, I reserved the name 'Railroad Conductor' for use when it comes out.
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I'm betting the IP in question isn't Marvel. The chainsword is a heavily used weapon in a certain futuristic battle game with space marines and orks. Said game system has been a tabletop game since 1987, and had a demo of their upcoming MMO last year. They've had countless spin-offs and you might say that they are a workshop of games.|
Originally Posted by Dark_Respite
My first thought... "Tell that to Abslom Daak, Dalek Killer"
*one quick pass through the Internet later* My second thought... "Why am I not surprised Marvel got their hands on him, even briefly?" |
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Obvious counterpoint: So just make a generic chainsaw weapon model and have the character hold it like a sword or attach a different handle to it so that it can be held like a sword, then call it a 'Modified Chainsaw.' and there goes any chance of legal repercussions. |
Originally Posted by Snow Globe
I'm betting the IP in question isn't Marvel. The chainsword is a heavily used weapon in a certain futuristic battle game with space marines and orks. Said game system has been a tabletop game since 1987, and had a demo of their upcoming MMO last year. They've had countless spin-offs and you might say that they are a workshop of games.
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It's not a chainsword, it's a chainsaw HELD like a sword and clearly still has a regular chainsaw motor on it. If a basic shovel can be both a mace and an axe, why can't a chainsaw be put under swords if it's still obviously a normal chainsaw?
I mean, if that alone were enough for a claim of copyright infringement then I'm obviously completely unclear on just how broad the definition of a 'ConflictMace' chainsword is, but I have a sneaking suspicion that they wouldn't have a leg to stand on since the model in-game would be nothing like their concepts, figures, drawings, sketches, technical specifications, etcetera.
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You're looking at it wrong.|
Originally Posted by Dispari
If I included all the S/L melee sets that would add at least three more. There are a TON of them. Weapon sets alone take up most of those, but still just getting more sets that do basically the same thing.
Not that I'm not going to play the thing to at least try it out, I would just rather they did more interesting things than "Hey, you know what we need? A fourth sword set." |
They're not giving a 4th Sword set.
They're giving us a BUSTER SWORD POWER SET! \o/
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This is coming from someone who used to collect actual real life swords and still owns a few (after a few moves and having to drop stuff), whose favorite RPG is FFVII, whose first character in CoH used a broadsword: I still think having another sword set is excessive and I'd rather they spent their time on something else. Though as I said, it's not as if I won't give it a try.
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Originally Posted by BrandX
You're looking at it wrong.
They're not giving a 4th Sword set. They're giving us a BUSTER SWORD POWER SET! \o/ |
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Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU
Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.
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I'm not worried about weapon sets being boring, really.
When I make a character and go "hmm, I want a neato weapon", I don't have many choices. Axe and Mace are horribly generic attack sets, and Broadsword and Katana, while containing a game-changing neato build-revolving power, are straight-up copies of each other.
But nowadays, we get actual differently-playing NEW sets- Dual Pistols and Kinetic Melee and Electric Control oh my! I don't really care what a new set is themed around anymore, I KNOW it's going to end up being fun and different.
With the latest sets we've gotten, I have confidence in the powers that be. <3
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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
And the Electric Scrapper hides how with crackling electricity?
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Yah, you really think they will be diving it to Brutes? :P
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Originally Posted by blueruckus
The idea of Momentum sounds like perfect synergy with Brute's Fury mechanic. Sounds like it's gonna be an awesome set.
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That one on the lest looks like the worlds most painful paddle.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
I can't - I'm carrying a sword 3 times my own body size
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Sorry I couldn't resist. :/
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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
And the Electric Scrapper hides how with crackling electricity?
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First time I was a chainsword was in the game Heavy Metal: F.A.K.K.².
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Originally Posted by Snow Globe
I'm betting the IP in question isn't Marvel. The chainsword is a heavily used weapon in a certain futuristic battle game with space marines and orks. Said game system has been a tabletop game since 1987, and had a demo of their upcoming MMO last year. They've had countless spin-offs and you might say that they are a workshop of games.
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I'm hoping that they also include some over sized axes in there to Mayby a giant anime mallet as well.
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Originally Posted by Hydrofoil_Zero
First time I was a chainsword was in the game Heavy Metal: F.A.K.K.².
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Hows does it feel to be a chain sword? To feel the ripping and gnashing of your enemies flesh as you cut into the marrow of their very bones!
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....Bumpy ride?
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Yeah. Chainswords are by no ways and means IP restricted, except perhaps by name|
Originally Posted by Hydrofoil_Zero
First time I was a chainsword was in the game Heavy Metal: F.A.K.K.².
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and specific visual design.
If they want to do it, they can find a way. It just probably wouldn't satisfy too
many people unless they made it a new power set entirely, to make the visual
and audio effects work right.
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And talking as someone who through work had to deal a LOT with those guys and their merry-go-ruound team of Incarnate Lawyers, that's one beast you don't want to face.
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Originally Posted by Snow Globe
I'm betting the IP in question isn't Marvel. The chainsword is a heavily used weapon in a certain futuristic battle game with space marines and orks. Said game system has been a tabletop game since 1987, and had a demo of their upcoming MMO last year. They've had countless spin-offs and you might say that they are a workshop of games.
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I think you guys have nothing to worry about. This set obviously does PSI damage. The enemies see you charging at them with a railroad sign and their heads asplode!
I know mine did when I found out about this.
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Psionic melee/weaponry. I voted for it.
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Originally Posted by Sermon
Conceptually, though, I think smashing/lethal sets offer the most interesting options. What did you have in mind? Another energy set? We have a lot of those already too. I don't forsee them putting out another fire or ice damage melee set.
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Didn't they say something a while back about not wanting to put in silly weapons? Now we get ridiculously oversized swords and railroad crossing signs. I demand Swordfish Melee now or at least a giant plastic squeaky mallet.
As has been pointed out above, chainsaw swords are not limited to only one IP so we could have them here as well but you'll need a good name. I suggest... 'Razor Blade'. Then we could even make barber villains. "Just a little off the top? Okay! *slash!* Hrm, maybe a little TOO much. *cue villainous laughter*"
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First of all, that was BABs who said it, and he got sacked (unfortunately). Secondly, what BABs said that large weapons looked silly if they were put in sets whose animations did not impart the proper weight to the swing, making the big weapons look like they were made of Styrofoam. This has been remedied by making these their own set, thus giving them proper weight in animation. Thurd, he did not want to put in weapons which did not look like they could do the damage type that the set was doing, so no pipe wrenches in Broadsword or swords in War Mace. I expect to see this set deal both Smashing and Lethal damage, or even just Smashing damage, so most weapon types apply.|
Originally Posted by Biidi
Didn't they say something a while back about not wanting to put in silly weapons? Now we get ridiculously oversized swords and railroad crossing signs. I demand Swordfish Melee now or at least a giant plastic squeaky mallet.
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Finally, and worth its own paragraph, was BABs stout refusal to put in stupid weapons in the game, like fish, clown shoes, balloon animals and suchforth, not because they were goofy so much as because they don't pack a punch. This is not the case with any of the weapons we've seen for this new set. They may be crude an unusual, but hit someone with them, and they WILL feel it. Not so with a fish, which may have weight to it, but has little structural strength when compared to metal weapons. There's always room for absurd weapons in the game. You just have to make sure they'd be at least marginally useful as actual weapons.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
First of all, that was BABs who said it, and he got sacked (unfortunately). Secondly, what BABs said that large weapons looked silly if they were put in sets whose animations did not impart the proper weight to the swing, making the big weapons look like they were made of Styrofoam. This has been remedied by making these their own set, thus giving them proper weight in animation. Thurd, he did not want to put in weapons which did not look like they could do the damage type that the set was doing, so no pipe wrenches in Broadsword or swords in War Mace. I expect to see this set deal both Smashing and Lethal damage, or even just Smashing damage, so most weapon types apply.
Finally, and worth its own paragraph, was BABs stout refusal to put in stupid weapons in the game, like fish, clown shoes, balloon animals and suchforth, not because they were goofy so much as because they don't pack a punch. This is not the case with any of the weapons we've seen for this new set. They may be crude an unusual, but hit someone with them, and they WILL feel it. Not so with a fish, which may have weight to it, but has little structural strength when compared to metal weapons. There's always room for absurd weapons in the game. You just have to make sure they'd be at least marginally useful as actual weapons. |
Then I saw the Railroad Crossing Sign a few days later.
I love my job.