How long will the exploits go on?

Personally yes I find them very bad for new people. If a seasoned vet is doing it, I have no worry, but if somone who has not even got a few months under them does it, i'm pissed.

There will be deleted avatars - again

So if I know where Steel Canyon is ,broadcast, lfmf! in local chat in the AE building and if I paid my dues for 6 years can I use it?

Here's an idea...


Zero Out Every Account. No Vet Rewards, No Inf, No Enhancements, No Characters past Lvl 1. (Character Names and Costumes/Power Customization remain), no GleeMails, No Vanguard Merits, Reward Merits, A-Merits. Wipe the AE clean with a BAEby Wipe, and reset the market to an empty building with no bids, sales, or even a whiff of value.

The next step is crucial.

Datamine the Casual RPers (1-3 hours per month ingame) and set their average leveling speed as the limit. No one can get anything faster than them.

There, now there's no reason to whine about how fast the Jones Family acquiring levels, inf, merits, and other stuff in here.

YAY, We're All Special Now!







*The views expressed above do not necessarily reflect the poster's attitude at large, but was meant as an over simplification of the issue to the effect of satire. If your sphincter kissed your chair like grandma kissed you when you were little, then you need to remember that this is a game, not a fascist regime with your insecure little ego as Diety Alrighty.

How long? Until they finally shut down the Portal Corp on blue side. THAT'S been going on for years.

I don't understand the issue here. If that is how they want to play the game, then...their loss. It should not affect your playing style. Yes it is kinda dumb to play through a game only through AE... espically in farm only mission. blech.

They are just missing out on all the fun in actually learning how to play their characters is all. And they will find out that once they actually want to play the in-game content, then...oops I have to be exemplered to do.

AE in general should have very limited exp rewards for example:

For this example I will use a base of 400 exp. Also your account would be be rounded up to the nearest hour upon logging out.

1 hour = 400 exp per minion
2 hours = 300 exp per minion
3 hours = 200 exp per minion
4 hours = 100 exp per minion
5 hours = 75 exp per minion
6 hours = 50 exp per minion
7 hours = 25 exp per minion.

After 7 hours it would remain at 25 exp per minion, and continue to stay at 25 exp until the flag timer is used up.

In order to remove the flag, your character would have to be logged in and be active for the same amount of in game time. No logging out for a day and the flag is removed. This would only affect AE and have no effect on in game content. Also patroling bonus exp is not available for use in AE either. If at any time they deciede to play AE mission, the timer starts back up.

Yes people would dislike it, yet I believe this would turn AE back into what it is ment for. AE is not ment to be used as a, "get rich quick" scheme. It is there for the community to show off their talents using the game. For those that create content, they would have better chances to have their stuff being played.

Is this a practical idea? I doubt it, I don't even know if it's possible to add or how much time would be needed to implement such a thing.

But I do agree with Ancient above me, play the game how you want to play it. Use AE or Don't, get mad at the spammers, or ignore them... We do have the ability to ignore somebody.

As for banning people, the Dev's should take a page from the Star Wars Galaxy play book.

For those of you that do not know, they dumped every person that was either dupping the money or had received the dupped money knowingly or unknowingly into space.

My wife (now ex) was one of those people that unknowingly had taken dupped money. I though it was one of the funniest things I had ever seen.

What I don't understand is why the "originator" (or certainly the person who popularised this exploit) hasn't been banned and had their arcs removed. I know the devs/mods have been aware of this one for weeks, but no action, why ?

This tacit condoning of the exploit has utterly £$%^ed up the market, and has disinclined me and half my SG from playing the game atm.

I haven't seen that much spam, but have seen some in local in Atlas on Victory.

Ah this thread again.

It'd be great if the devs could make bulletproof content that crafty players couldn't leverage for maximum rewards.

Alas, they apparently can't.

This is not the fault of the players, most of whom have been programmed by a lifetime of video gaming to seek the most efficient reward path available. As well blame a cat for ignoring the bowl of kibble you set on the floor in favor of the juicy filet mignon resting on the sideboard.
In both cases, the behavior is instinctive, there is no 'morality' involved.


Should the devs quash this sort of hyper-efficient mission?
Absolutely.
Players don't respect something they didn't 'work' for. They won't have any connection to the level 50s generated this way, which translates to having no loyalty for the game.

Should players whine when the devs get around to derailing the reward train?
Absolutely not.
You knew it was going to be a short trip when you bought the ticket, so suck it up buttercup.

Should paying customers be punished for engaging in reward seeking behavior?
Only if you want to alienate people and create needless ill will.

As I said the last time around, Fix It and Forget It.
Positron's big hissy over Meow and portal farms served the developers and the community equally poorly. Something slipped past the devs, players found it and ran with it- this has been happening since the day the game was released. The first ever 50 was a "dirty exploiter", with his caltrops in the sewers.

This game isn't big enough to survive banning people for playing efficiently.
The Purity Police don't care (perhaps they imagine that the 50 sufficiently moral and upstanding players left would somehow justify Paragon Studio's continued employment?), but its a point reasonable players should grasp instinctively.

I'm not into farms or exploits, but I don't understand why some get so upset about what other people are doing. If someone wants to run the same mission over and over again to get to 50 on some toon really fast, I couldn't care less. That guys money is going into the game and getting me continued support for the game and new content (soon...).

Then on top of that, the devs usually crack down on the exploits when they're found, so again I don't see what the big deal is.

I think the biggest problem in this game is that so many players need to 'game' a game to get what they want. The best example of this imo is the markets. There is no way to get what you want by simply playing the actual game at the same rate you would if you just play the market system. I think the devs have improved the situation with tip missions and hero merits, but they have a long way to go if they want to stop players from feeling they need to farm for loot or use exploits to get what they want. None of my toons would be IO'd out the way they are if I didn't work the market system. And I'm not bashing the markets, I'm simply saying that you should be able to achieve similar gains in similar time by simply playing the actual game, and as of right now, that is nowhere near the case.

Good AE Arcs aren't hard to find because of farms.

They are hard to find because most people can't create good arcs.