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Originally Posted by Starsman

And there is no reason why we should not expect the game to be canceled the same way as soon as it starts performing only marginally well. That's the main reason I will not give NCSoft any more money.

Originally Posted by JayboH

Ok, here's the question:

What would you like NCSoft to do to treat you better while still shutting down the studio and game? The 3 free months is not enough; I understand that part - is there anything else they can do for you directly?

Originally Posted by Nethergoat

If somebody keys my car and slashes all the tires, I don't send them a thank you card with $50 inside.

YMMV.

Originally Posted by Dinah

No, Boycott ATARI.

Atari holds the license to the City of Heroes engine. Contract expires, Atari refuses to negotiate with NCSoft, NCSoft is forced to shut down Paragon Studios.

ATARI decided it would make more money from us as new subscribers to their games than from an ongoing license to a competitor's game.

Originally Posted by Lothic

I favor the compromise idea that they can sell a "version" of the portable workbench on the market as long as the badge-based version is somehow superior to it. For instance make the market version have the current hour recharge where the badge-based one could have a better 15 min recharge.

I understand that selling things like the Roman and Vanguard costume sets were generally accepted by the playerbase. But as a badge-collector I just can't support fully trivializing badge oriented rewards like this by selling exact equivalents on the Market - the time it takes to run the ITF is just not equal to the time it takes to earn the Field Crafter badge. *shrugs*

Originally Posted by Mad_Cow_Milk

Shouldn't cost more than an normal respec token honestly.

Originally Posted by Lothic

I'm all for the Devs having their "coffee talks" to help spread useful information to the playerbase. But if they don't have enough information (that can be publicly released) to cover having one of these things every... single... week... then I don't see the need for them to go through the motions. Maybe they could switch to having coffee talks only when they've saved up enough new info to make each one of them that much more useful/interesting. *shrugs*

Originally Posted by Quinch

Ditto. I'll cheerfully lose all the levels on an existing character as long as I get to keep the badges.

{souvenirs and other historical data too would be nice, but badges are the important thing}

Originally Posted by Megajoule

Player response, every thread:

"But I want it!"

Originally Posted by Zombie Man

Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU

Personally, I think both role and playstyle should be considered, but there should be enough inbuilt flexibility to allow variation.

I quite like my "Retaliator" AT idea:

Primary role: Tank, Secondary role: ranged damage

Primary powerset: Defence
Secondary powerset: Assault

HP: Between Brute and Tanker, def/res values: as tank, but res capped at 85%. Ranged and melee damage mods: 0.75/0.75.

Inherent: Retaliation. As the Retaliator is attacked, their "retaliation bar" fills. When it is full, they can activate the "Retaliation button". This causes attacks to do double damage (scrapper critical style) and gives a +25% to-hit bonus for 20 seconds.

Inherent part 2: Assault-voke. All attacks proc a 5' radius taunt. Unlike punch-voke, this is coded in the same way as Interface, rather than hard-coded into attacks. When Retaliation is active, Assault-voke is turned off.

Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow

But how do you reconcile that with a Brute - who has a higher base damage mod - being able to generate a damage buff of over 100% consistently even at low levels? Honestly, that's not that hard. Hasn't been since I18. That's OK, but Defenders with a damage mod of 0.65 having 30% was too much?

Originally Posted by Kitsune Knight

Over-reliant? I'd say quite the opposite. It's the only way in game currently that other people besides the mission owner get a chance to see the, you know, story. Anyone on team can click to reach the mission text, but that damn dialog clears every time someone changes zones (even between two zones you're not in), making it horribly difficult to read it. Plus, you can't see the mission completion dialog, nor the arc completion dialog.

It's such a bad situation that, wanting to actually have a chance to experience the story lines, I consider my only option to be soloing it. I soloed through all of First Ward and Night Ward to actually get to read the stuff and see what was going on.

I'm quite glad that for the NPCs one person talks to in missions (which bring up the dialog box) that in newer content they'll 'say' a shorter version on the NPC dialog channel. Certainly a major improvement.


As for the 'skipping was a day 1 addition for TOR'... well, duh. That was just a major bungling on the part of BioWare that most every other game has already done without issue, regardless of whether they're voiced or not (CoH still doesn't let you skip cut scenes... but the devs nearly never use them).

It seems that people are saying that voice overs are bad because TOR got it wrong, not because voice overs are bad. I'd say STO also got it wrong, by only doing them randomly. The big important top military guy's mission brief isn't voiced over... but this random chump that wants some crappy side missions that is just filler is? Yeah, nice job screwing it up (maybe they get better in the late game... but honestly, free is too expensive for that game). If you're going to do them, do them throughout (which is why I don't like the voice overs in the new tutorial... I like them, but when 100% of the rest of the game has zero voice overs? It's simply misleading and confusing few new players).

(I also wasn't asking/interested in technical challenges with voice overs, but why they're a bad fit from the player's perspective, and only on MMOs)

Originally Posted by RemusShepherd

You've posted that three times, yet it isn't anything anyone's suggesting. My only concrete suggestion was to *increase* the number of powersets that need to be paid for.

If anything, making all the powersets for-pay, while giving VIPs the equivalent PP, would be revenue-neutral. It would just allow VIPs to skip paying for powersets they don't want, and apply those points to something they do.

I'm done with this discussion, but let's not end it with ridiculous strawmen in bold and underline. If you need to misrepresent reality to make your point then you're not doing your own side any favors.

Originally Posted by Aura_Familia

Not working then if you are yawning. Must be decaf.

Originally Posted by Aura_Familia

Get some coffee then.

Originally Posted by Aura_Familia

Taking a break is telling him to leave? Did you miss the part about telling him to come back? Did you miss the part about taking the feedback as constructive criticism? Yeah, thanks for proving my point. Confused indeed.

Originally Posted by Tenzhi

I thought the goal was to get people to spend more money on the game.

Originally Posted by BellaStrega

There's nothing wrong with wanting a new powerset as soon as it's released, or wanting to get other things with points which necessitate buying more than the stipend provides. That's what I do.

Now, just complaining that it's not handed over because one does not have the points is ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Kyriani

The scary thing is one them will inevitably read that post, scratch their chin and say: "You say this like it would be a bad thing. I don't see the problem. This is how it actually SHOULD BE!!!" and never realize the ramifications of actually going through with that idea.

Originally Posted by UberGuy

If we didn't have to pay for any of the new powersets, then, most likely, we wouldn't be getting them at the rate we are.

By definition, things we don't get with our subscription are things that the devs (and or the marketing team) expect to be underwritten, at least partially, by direct purchases. Said more plainly, they can staff up or make other investments that allow them produce more stuff more quickly because we (or some of us) are paying extra to get it, over and above our monthly subscription fee. So if there was no extra money in it for them (by virtue of including all of it in our base subscription), then they wouldn't have that extra income to staff up or invest in better tools, etc., and they couldn't pump out new stuff as often.

If they were not pumping stuff, such as new powersets, out at a rate higher than we saw before the model change, I think you'd have a fair point. But they are producing new things faster, while still giving VIPs "free" powersets at what looks to me like a higher rate than before.

Originally Posted by Angry_Citizen

Awesome! I've two years left. Finally finished with "the basics", and from what I understand, it's smooth sailing from here on out. All the weed-out courses are finished, and now us poor engineering students get to rebuild our GPA in time for grad school.

Still not sure if I want to do that, btw, but it's an option.