I am not Positron's Pal.

...I am Statesman's.

Please let me keep the badge.

EDIT 24/04/12

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Originally Posted by Dr. Aeon Hello everyone! I appreciate the feedback you’ve all been given here and on the beta forums. I’ve just made the following changes: 1) Statesman’s Pal will remain Statesman’s Pal and will be given out when completing ‘A Hero’s Hero’, the original Maria Jenkin’s arc, in flashback 2) Positron’s Pal will be given out when completing, ‘A Hero’s Epic’, the new Maria Jenkin’s arc 3) Sister Psyche’s Comrade will remain the same and be given out when completing Psyche’s task force in flashback once Issue 23 is launched. 4) Penelope Yin’s Friend will be rewarded when completing her new task force 5) The Task Force Commander badge will be rewarded by having either Penelope Yin’s Friend or Sister Psyche’s Comrade Thanks again for all your feedback! Dr. Aeon

You can still be firends with Positron

To explain:

They removed Statesman from the game i23. The mission to rescue him from the Praetorians used to give you the "Statesman's Pal" badge.

They changed both the mission and the badge to refer to Positron, even if you already had the badge.

Which, frankly I think is BS because there's no reason the mission couldn't have taken place at a point in time before Statesman died, or couldn't have kept existing as a Flashback with the changed arc granting a new badge.


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Statesman is way more handsome than Positron.... Statesman was my friend with benefits damn it!

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Originally Posted by Paladiamors I love you, I Burnt the Toast!

No no no, you're [insert lead designer's name]'s Pal! Everyone knows [insert lead designer's name] can do no harm!

Changing a Hero's Epic to feature Positron as the one we rescue makes sense, as it avoids having a repeat of Statesman being captured - but it doesn't maske sense for the original Hero's Hero arc to not give us the Statesman's Pal badge.

Sister Psyche's TF badge is also being changed into the one for Penny Yin's new TF, even though the old TF is still available from Ouroboros.

Yeah...remember I made that thread about being unsure whether it was company spite or not...

Some of the replies were like "LOL he's still on the title screen!" Yeah he's not come Issue 23, all badges that refer to him are being changed to Positron, the Lord Recluse Strikeforce makes a heck of a lot less sense now that Statesman is removed (removing the 'showing up Statesman' thing which was THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE LRSF).

This is almost a One More Day level of retconning to be that Statesman didn't exist in the first place. New players are going to play the SSAs and be like "oh, who is the chump that died?", they're not going to care about him because there's nothing there in the rest of the game to care about.

His death has even less impact than the return of Hero One with the Lady Grey Taskforce. Hero One at least has the cape mission giving you the backstory.

Statesman after Issue 23...nuthin but the SSAs will even mention him.

I get the honest feeling Positron isn't so much as stepping out of Jack Emmertts shadow is he is becoming just like him (My vision, My Rules, doesn't care about established lore).

Really?

Really?!

That's just sad. They need to fix it so we can have both. I have to say I'll be really, really disappointed if this goes live.

I'm sure there are lots of characters (and players) those badges mean something to. I remember someone mentioning they were looking forward to the Statesman helmet from the recent loyalty program, because they tied their character into Statesman's lore, and wanted to honor him. I forget who it was, but I bet they'd be upset to hear this.

I daresay those badges mean even more now that they are dead. (even if you can get them via Oroborous- Those of us who were around for the whole thing... Yeah this can't be allowed to stick.) I really hope they fix this.

Paragon Studios drops the ball yet again.

Signing this again. Don't retcon badges, that's just petty.

1. Old badges are changed to match new badge
"That's lame, we should keep our old badges"

2. Old badges are different from new badges
"That's lame, now I can't get all of the badges on my character, there shouldn't be any badges that new characters can't get"

That's not quite the situation here

Agreed, what is past is past. I have saved Statesman with many characters, it makes sense to keep it that way.
My new characters will be Positron's pal.

Same for Sister Psyche TF.

This did make me very sad that we effectively lost two old badges in order to gain these two new badges.

As above, Hero's Hero should award Statesman's Pal and have Statesman in the mission content - it's time travel, back to before Statesman died. Hero's Epic should award Positron's Pal and have Positron in the mission content.

Sister Psyche's ouro task force should award Sister Psyche's Comrade, and Penelope's task force should award Penelope's Friend, and *BOTH* Sister Psyche -and- Penelope should count toward TFC. Having either one should count as credit for that unlock. (Having both shouldn't do anything extra, mind.)

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Originally Posted by Dispari I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.

For the sake of expediency I'll just repeat what I posted on the beta boards:

Where exactly does one lodge a formal complaint about the renaming of previously earned badges?
I do not want to be the Master of BABs TF or be Yin's Comrade (or whatever it is it was renamed to). I want those badges to remain the same. It was something that happened to my characters, something that they went through. Just because Statesman and Sister Psyche are dead it does not mean their badges have to vanish from the game and it certainly does not mean they should be replaced by upstarts who should better know their place! *harrumph!*

Please let us all keep our old badges and add the new ones. Make it so that people get both awarded so no one misses out and we don't get the silly Celebrant situation all over again.