Stone Armor - Granite Armor


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Originally Posted by TrueMetal View Post
I like the fact that you turn into a huge chunk of rock. I wouldn't mind if the actual granite model changed (depending on if the new one looks good of course ). But I'd rather keep the 'huge' effect.
So buy the Science Super Booster, set one of your costume slots to 'Huge' and go to town that way?

I'm all for ditching the 'fixed Granite model' personally, though I'd think it'd work really well for the 'Huge' bodytype. Or something as close as possible to that for the Huge bodytype at least for an option among things.

For Female and Male? Yeah, get something totally different, please!


 

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I couldn't care less, as long as the result looks good.
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I'd trust you to do a cracking job on this one Babs and its worth the time and resources imo. It would mean that the female stonetanks will remain feminine and that would be good.
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Never liked the current armor and the fact that all stone tankers over lvl 32 looked the same. I vote get rid of it in favor of something new, particularly if the end result is we don't all look the same
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I would love a granite armor that didn't turn you into an anonymous rockheap.
These.

Although I may not count as a "Stone Armor player" - I already deleted my one Stone Armor character because at level 50 my Willpower was just as survivable with less IO investment - even counting Granite. I recycled the IOs on my Widow where they actually boosted offensive performance above baseline instead of trying to reach it again.


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So buy the Science Super Booster, set one of your costume slots to 'Huge' and go to town that way?

I'm all for ditching the 'fixed Granite model' personally, though I'd think it'd work really well for the 'Huge' bodytype. Or something as close as possible to that for the Huge bodytype at least for an option among things.

For Female and Male? Yeah, get something totally different, please!
Or open up the super tailor to everyone since it was a horrible idea to include in the Booster in the first place. Players shouldn't have to pay in order to replicate a thematic choice they already have.

Otherwise, I'm all for the change. Though it would be nice if the visual didn't stray too terribly far from what exists now.


 

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I'd say go for it, BAB.


 

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I don't mind a change in appearence as long as you still look as impressive. I would ask that you wait until after I hit 38 on my brute and can see it first . (my first stone armor toon to make it this far)


 

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I couldn't care less, as long as the result looks good.
Ditto. Though with a number of people saying they want to keep the current version, I doubt any change will happen.


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Originally Posted by Bionic_Flea View Post
If Granite ends up looking like the other stone armors, then I don't think that I would like the new granite.

If Granite still covered you completely, but you could colorize it, that would be cool.

If you are working with Castle on a revamp of the stone armor set with granite taking a hit, the others getting a buff, and a player needing to run multiple overlaying stone armors, then I will pray for you and wish you luck. I have never liked the look of the other stone armors, much less when someone is running multiple armors. But if you can make that work into some seemless whole that looks good, more power to you.
Pretty much this. I hate the look of every other armor powers in the stone armor set (except maybe minerals), and really hate the times when I have to go outside of granite from an aesthetic perspective. Playing around on test, power customization didn't really do anything to change that for me. It's the symmetry, and the fact that having pieces of rock overlaying on a costume just doesn't make any sense at all to me thematically (as opposed to say ice or fire... cooling or heating the air around the costume makes a lot of sense to me).

I'd rather have ALL of the armors in the set be the same as Granite in that they cover the entire costume than the other way around, even if it means I can't customize the powers.

My 2 cents.


 

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I personally don't play Stone Armor and probably never will.

But if the new Granite will allow more creativity for the players, go for it.


 

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Originally Posted by Strigadi View Post
I much prefer the current Granite, especially since it is one of the few transformations in the game. Being able to go from normal sized person to living monolith is a big part of my stone brute.

If you do decide to change it, please make it completely cover the character, including the head. The current stone armors make me feel like I slapped play-doh on an action figure.
This. My Stone Armor Tanker isn't 32 yet and probably wouldn't be before such a change went through, I would hate to be robbed of the chance to turn into Giant Honkin' Rock.


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I think changing granite armor to something players can custom' is a good idea, this is a lot of little disapointing things with the actual form of Granite , including the rollbacks effets due to the size of the shapeshifting.

It should be Great to change actual Granite armor :]
(and even if we can KEEP our costume while playing under granit armor , it only will be better!)

Sorry about my rusty english .
Thanks to Bab for asking this to the community


 

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I don't like looking like everyone else. I say change it, but add that inherent 0 end costume toggle for the old granite form. Or get an option when you select Granite to have the old version of the power, or the new version, like how Widows get a choice between Follow Up and Build Up.


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For those of you with Stone Armor characters, how attached are you to the current appearance of "Granite Armor"? There are a number of issues with Granite Armor that could be elegantly solved by changing the VFX of the power into something more akin to the other armor toggles in the set. IE, your player model and costume wouldn't go away, there would just be a new set of 'Granite' armor pieces overlaid.

I haven't made any decision to do this, it's just one of the options for dealing with the multiple issues we have with Granite Armor and I wanted to get a sense of how many of you guys wouldn't be able to adapt to a change like this.

Before anyone asks, no...we couldn't have it both ways.


I like the way Granite Armor looks now currently; however, if there is a new option that would allow you (us as players) to have a 4 ft. tall Granite Armor toon or what have ya...then I'm more or less for it.


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I say change it, but add that inherent 0 end costume toggle for the old granite form.
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BaB...

I'm all for change. I'm not attached to the current Granite Armor FX. I would prefer to see what you have in mind before giving my final vote, however.


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I am happy with the current Granite form. I would vote "no" for a change without seeming what the alternative is.

As for the other armors, I tend to use the Huge body type because it reduces overall amount of coverage of the lesser armors.


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Yes.

In particular, I'd like an armor that would allow me to see my character's head. His alias is Blunt Bear, but you can hardly ever see the little bear ears.


 

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Originally Posted by BackAlleyBrawler View Post
For those of you with Stone Armor characters, how attached are you to the current appearance of "Granite Armor"? There are a number of issues with Granite Armor that could be elegantly solved by changing the VFX of the power into something more akin to the other armor toggles in the set. IE, your player model and costume wouldn't go away, there would just be a new set of 'Granite' armor pieces overlaid.

I haven't made any decision to do this, it's just one of the options for dealing with the multiple issues we have with Granite Armor and I wanted to get a sense of how many of you guys wouldn't be able to adapt to a change like this.

Before anyone asks, no...we couldn't have it both ways.
Personally I'm vehemantly against that, unless there was a way for me to keep the current granite.

Granite is the only armor in the set that I actually LIKE the appearance of. If that got taken out then I would have no reason to ever play the set, as I despise the look of the rest of it.



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New Model Please.


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Originally Posted by BackAlleyBrawler View Post
For those of you with Stone Armor characters, how attached are you to the current appearance of "Granite Armor"? There are a number of issues with Granite Armor that could be elegantly solved by changing the VFX of the power into something more akin to the other armor toggles in the set. IE, your player model and costume wouldn't go away, there would just be a new set of 'Granite' armor pieces overlaid.
You would be my God if you did this.
I admit I do not have any Stone Armor characters - but I don't have any because I HATEHATEHATEHATEHATE what Granite Armor currently does to your character. I have *always* wanted to play a Stone but could never deal with that fugly thing, I just figured it was a pipe dream because something that big would never be changed.
Count this as a big vote for NEW GRANITE!

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I don't like looking like everyone else. I say change it, but add that inherent 0 end costume toggle for the old granite form. Or get an option when you select Granite to have the old version of the power, or the new version, like how Widows get a choice between Follow Up and Build Up.
Both of those sound like fair and decently workable solutions to me for people that want the old one, since they're both things that have already been done in the game?


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honestly, i'd welcome this change ... as it is now, every granite looks exactly like every other granite in every way, ... i would much rather the uniqueness of my toon, that i spent alot of time designing, to not be altered by the one key power that every stone tank strives for and in a sense basically genericing the toon ... so BAB's, to answer your question.


YES PLEASE make this change, make it happen


 

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I'm not a stone tank type, but I know that the idea of losing my costume entirely to Granite chases me away. I'd NEVER consider playing a stone tank solely due to the costume model.

This is one of the things that chases me away from Khelds as well.


 

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I've given this some thought, and I still don't know how I would really feel.

I'd probably be a little excited that there's something new for granite, but at the same time, probably miss having the old granite model more.

I dunno ... I would probably prefer to keep granite as is, until a better solution could be found. I don't care how long it takes.


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I vote change it.

It seems pretty straight forward to me... My options:

A big stone DE critter that I cannot color, and cannot add themes for (like lava and crystals)

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An overlay that I *CAN* color, and can add the themes of Lava and crystals to.

The choice seems obvious if you want more customization options.

I vote change it... and I hope there are more Yays than Nays.

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Originally Posted by BackAlleyBrawler View Post
For those of you with Stone Armor characters, how attached are you to the current appearance of "Granite Armor"? There are a number of issues with Granite Armor that could be elegantly solved by changing the VFX of the power into something more akin to the other armor toggles in the set. IE, your player model and costume wouldn't go away, there would just be a new set of 'Granite' armor pieces overlaid.

I haven't made any decision to do this, it's just one of the options for dealing with the multiple issues we have with Granite Armor and I wanted to get a sense of how many of you guys wouldn't be able to adapt to a change like this.

Before anyone asks, no...we couldn't have it both ways.
Let me just say this first. Thank you very much for fixing the Assassins Strike for Martial Arts stalkers. Now about granite, the looks of powersets are one of the biggest factors on whether I am going to play something or not. For instance prior to issue 16 I would never ever touch spines perioid. The banana look is what turned me off to the set. By changing it, I can possibly start rolling some spines toons. The look of stone armor specifically granite has been one of the reason I wont touch this set. So yes changing it will overall be a good thing. I think if you leave the option to have both skins more people will be happy.


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It should be changed and made customizable. I hate how it covers up my costume and I hate looking like every single other stoner in granite. Having more variety is always better. Thanks.