Discussion: Issue 12: Midnight Hour Announced!
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AaronH,
Posted on: 2008-03-12 09:13 in News, Events and Announcement Discussion
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Every AT gains at least 1 powerset -- Masterminds only get a Secondary, no new Primary. Brutes get 2 new Primaries, and 1 secondary. Everyone else gets 1 Primary and 1 Secondary.
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Wait... blasters too? Blaster support sets, like mastermind primaries, are unique. You'd have to build an entirely new set. 
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Energy Melee is kind of an exception to that. Maybe Blasters'll get a port from a Dom secondary?
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My guess is that they will adapt psionic assault into a blaster secondary, if they are planning on adding a psionic blast primary.
A little bit of tweaking is going to be necessary. For example, any secondary that stalkers get will obviously have to have Hide added, and any primary they get will have to make room for an Assassin's strike.
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Wait... blasters too? Blaster support sets, like mastermind primaries, are unique. You'd have to build an entirely new set.
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Well, if they are getting Psychic Blast as a primary, they might be getting "Psychic Manipulation" for their secondary. Since most of the "Manipulation" sets are a mix of controller, tanker, and a couple of unique powers, then all they need to do is mix in Mind Control powers, some of those melee-range Psychic Assualt powers, and add a couple of new ones, or borrow from the Defenders psi ancillary, to create a new psi-based secondary for blasters. 
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Who's to say scrappers are getting SS? Don't get your hopes up. Each AT only gets one primary and one secondary, minus MMs and Brutes (who get two primarys and one secondary).
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Way to ruin a dream there, you meanie.
Knew a post like this was gonna turn up sooner or later. At least try to imagine.
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I'll eat the Dev's Souls if Defenders don't get Thermal Radiation... I LOVED Thermal Radiation since I saw it but HATE playing curroptors(They get their buffs/debuffs too slow damn it!!!), so if we get Cold domination I will be saddened! ... I'll give the puppy eyes if required... And candy... And women... men?
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P.S. Controllers and Defenders will, most likly, share the proliferated power. So if it's Cold for one, betting cold for both.. If Thermal for one, probably thermal for both. Though it saddens me to think. I'm betting on Cold/Ice for Defender sets... Because I doubt they'd port /fire or have unassociated things... Though...Storm/Ice could be seeable... Port over Thermal Radiation and Ice Blast! X3
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Thermal is Heal/Buff/DEBUFF! Why do people forget about the last two DEBUFFS at the end... (Noticed people [censored] it's close to empathy(WHICH IT'S NOT!) while reading through the thread.)
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*sigh* Way to screw villains YET AGAIN.
*HIGHLY disappointed with the "epic" archetype*
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I'm a card-carrying Patron Pool hater, but I still think the VEATs look cool. My final judgment will depend on the powers they get.
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Agreed with Gothika
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Why on earth would they be unlocked without a 50?
Only if you could unlock Khelds without one!
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I remember reading something that Emmert said about lvl 50 epic unlocks was a mistake, and I assume that most of the devs feel the same way.
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We had to do it this way for the first Villain EAT... parity in unlocking the EATs across both games and all that.
Future EATs (if we dare go in that direction) will have different methods of unlocking (obviously, since the "get to 50" is already done).
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Does that mean a MM based VEAT?
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What is to say these VEATs don't have MM influence, they are after all ultimately under a MM Lord Recluse. They could have a couple of pets, instead of just one or none
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Lots of love! Rewards for the faithful!
Devs, I'm here for the duration.
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ya know, if I13 is as great as 11 was and 12 looks like, the devs may very well come to own my soul. Or at least one of the ones I've stolen.
I'm not sure if this has been asked and answered, but with the 2 new epic classes do we get 2 more slots per server?
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HOLY CRAP.
Axe brutes! Plant controllers!
THERE HAD BETTER BE STORM CORRUPTORS.
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/Storm Corruptors... done.
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STORM cors!!! WOOT 
I really hope the new costume pieces are a general item and not just unlockable items. Also, there better be more costume pieces en route or I will be TICKED!
That is my only beef. The rest looks very interesting. Good job, Devs!
This is worth breaking my silence, I think.
GLEE. JOYGASM. MINDLESS GIBBERING. STORM CORRUPTORS.
That is all.
my, my! this seems to be a promising issue.
(even though my initial prediction of Bards at the VEATs is wrong...)
Holy Doody!
Lots of exciting news in that announcement! I can see why i12's been cooking a little longer than i11 was! Looking forward to it!
And, it's about time we heard from Dr. Brainstorm again!!
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So, was I reading it right that each AT will get one primary and secondary power from its corresponding AT? If so that's awesome!
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Every AT gains at least 1 powerset -- Masterminds only get a Secondary, no new Primary. Brutes get 2 new Primaries, and 1 secondary. Everyone else gets 1 Primary and 1 Secondary.
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Speaking as someone that loves the MM AT... couldn't we at least get two new Secondaries, to compensate?
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So, was I reading it right that each AT will get one primary and secondary power from its corresponding AT? If so that's awesome!
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Every AT gains at least 1 powerset -- Masterminds only get a Secondary, no new Primary. Brutes get 2 new Primaries, and 1 secondary. Everyone else gets 1 Primary and 1 Secondary.
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Speaking as someone that loves the MM AT... couldn't we at least get two new Secondaries, to compensate?
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I'd also like to see that or, more specifically, I'd like to see this idea keep rolling from issue to issue until we have full diversity to pick any appropriate powerset for any AT.
Next issue 1 more for each AT, and the issue after that etc. This way they can test and tweak the difficult ones over time.
OMFG! OMFG! OMFG! I'm so fraking excited about this!! Between everything coming in the next issue and being able to see the real numbers while playing, it's almost like a totally new game now.
The VEATs seem pretty awesome to me and may be what I'm most excited about. Being an Arachnos operative might not please everyone but the same can be said of Kheldians and I and many others really enjoy them. So you can't please everyone, but I for one can't stop with the OMFG! OMFG! OMFG!
If this is their idea of a patch with not much big stuff in it, try to imagine what's coming down the pike the rest of this year. Never thought they'd be able to top last year, but wow! Just wow!!!
Only thing I don't like about it is the changes to the Hollows. I hope they don't make it too easy as it's my favorite zone because it really teaches you how to play this game and manage aggro. The Hollows is the best training ground we've got and I'd hate to see that invaluable crucible lost in the name of attracting more n00bies to the zone who can't be bothered to learn to play with even a modicum of caution. At the very least I hope they add some extremely difficult missions into the zone to balance it out. Leave our badlands alone or make them even more dangerous!
I really have to tip my hat to the Dev team on this for a few reasons....one for sure is the VEAT....yes I know alot of people will be underwhelmed and upset over the choices and I can understand why ....but I actually am very excited for these AT's....my main villain is heavily tied to Arachnos and this will be his next evolution....very cool indeed....another is that they totally went with a theme that is from left field....never saw a Roman themed zone coming....as well did they ever smokescreen us with the "I12 will just be a transitional issue" tidbits they gave us.....
I think that they have really tried to cater to the player base in the last few issues.....is it everything that everyone wanted....of course not....but the things in this update are going to change the game forever with Powerset Proliferation.....such as Inventions did.....
I also have to give Posi and the Dev team major props for putting in the types of changes that they have recently as it does take conviction to implement these game changing features and risk the chance of alienating some of the player base....Inventions has many still crying.....Oroborous is still brought up as lackluster.....and I am sure the VEATs and Powerset Proliferation will have it haters as well....
So good job Dev Team.... THIS is what seperates our game from the rest of the MMO world....some tout bigger numbers.....some brag about what they may be putting in....some make you pay for content like this.....we really do play the best MMO and have the best Dev team...
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Every AT gains at least 1 powerset -- Masterminds only get a Secondary, no new Primary. Brutes get 2 new Primaries, and 1 secondary. Everyone else gets 1 Primary and 1 Secondary.
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Wait... blasters too? Blaster support sets, like mastermind primaries, are unique. You'd have to build an entirely new set.
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My money is on Trick Arrow
Just as I was starting to think about the possibility of an extended hiatus this drops.
Amazing. But is it wrong that it's the "Major Gameplay Improvements" that excite me the most? Of course, I am still extremely excited about the VEATs, Cimerora, Powersets, Midnight Squad, and the Hollows improvements.
An MMO closure is definitely not a joke, and I have no intention of making light of it. And it can be a tough and emotional thing for players to go through, speaking from personal experience. And I know that it's often much harder on the developers than on the publisher. However, I also know that it doesn't necessarily turn you into a sad, depressed sack of tears for the rest of your life. People can move past it, and heal.
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So, was I reading it right that each AT will get one primary and secondary power from its corresponding AT? If so that's awesome!
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Every AT gains at least 1 powerset -- Masterminds only get a Secondary, no new Primary. Brutes get 2 new Primaries, and 1 secondary. Everyone else gets 1 Primary and 1 Secondary.
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Which are............
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We'll have more info on this feature soon.
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Wait - you are not supposed to be Cryptic.
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So, was I reading it right that each AT will get one primary and secondary power from its corresponding AT? If so that's awesome!
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Every AT gains at least 1 powerset -- Masterminds only get a Secondary, no new Primary. Brutes get 2 new Primaries, and 1 secondary. Everyone else gets 1 Primary and 1 Secondary.
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WHAT?! No illusion masterminds?
I quit.
OK, the power mash up sounds great...but really that's all yall could come up with for epic at's in cov? That is so lame..I am so hurt that all the big brains up there couldn't do better than that. Well, in any case i do like everything else.
I am going to destroy the universe as you come to know it and reshape it into my image!!!!
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Why on earth would they be unlocked without a 50?
Only if you could unlock Khelds without one!
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I remember reading something that Emmert said about lvl 50 epic unlocks was a mistake, and I assume that most of the devs feel the same way.
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We had to do it this way for the first Villain EAT... parity in unlocking the EATs across both games and all that.
Future EATs (if we dare go in that direction) will have different methods of unlocking (obviously, since the "get to 50" is already done).
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Ever thought of doing an alternate way of earning both? And by alternate off course I mean something that would be hard enough to consider getting to 50 a viable alternative.