Discussion: Issue 12: Midnight Hour Announced!
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Posted on: 2008-03-12 09:13 in News, Events and Announcement Discussion
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The Roman setting is win. Period. I love anything associated with Greek and Roman lore, so this is perfect. I was really really hoping to see more of the Nemesis/Rikti connection mentioned somewhere in this issue, as well as Fifth Column, but.... I'm betting we'll see more in the Midnight Squad content. Right... right...? Bueller...?
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"The Eternal Nemesis"
I have a feeling Nemesis has been around for far, far longer than the usual history gives; it wouldn't be very surprising to see either Nemesis himself or... the real NEMESIS REX (Rex being Latin! 
), the first true megalomaniac tyrant supervillain/genius.
Seeing as how Midnight Squad has an Obo Crystal, I would be willing to bet Nemesis, who has explored areas of reality unknown to all but perhaps the Dark Watcher, has a crystal as well; or, maybe, developed the crystals himself.
/end speculation
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Weren't the villain epics supposed to be achieved WITHOUT reaching level 50?
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that's what they originally wanted, but that interview was like what? over a year ago, things change.
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They've pretty much always stated that the first villain EAT would be a 50 to unlock. *Future* EATs after that will have other ways of being unlocked.
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It even says you unlocked an epic Archetype on villains when you reach 50, and has since the day it launched. At least now it's not a lie.
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Wait... blasters too? Blaster support sets, like mastermind primaries, are unique. You'd have to build an entirely new set. 
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Well, if they are getting Psychic Blast as a primary, they might be getting "Psychic Manipulation" for their secondary. Since most of the "Manipulation" sets are a mix of controller, tanker, and a couple of unique powers, then all they need to do is mix in Mind Control powers, some of those melee-range Psychic Assualt powers, and add a couple of new ones, or borrow from the Defenders psi ancillary, to create a new psi-based secondary for blasters. 
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Not only that, a Psi-Immobilize already exists.
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Great. Whatever makes CoV unique, let's give it to CoH. Why bother playing CoV at all? This issue addresses absolutely ZERO CoV issues or concerns, or even quality of life. But hey, let's fix the hallows -- never mind at all that Grandville has been the bane of most people's existence due to its lag nature. Let's throw some new costumes out too while we're at it.
But at least you gave us a unique epic AT. Oh wait. We've seen them throughout all our levels thus far in the game. Not really new are they? Sorry i dont share everyone's enthusiasm over what is a fancy band-aid, a shiny glittering object of distraction and the removal of anything remotely unique to CoV. I guess i passed my d20 will save.
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Pretty sure the interface and inspirations changes affect villains too.
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while issue 12 is fine I am more worried about issue 13, as 13 is suppose to be unlucky number,Issue 13 may be the great shift talked about by the last nova from the future,
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Obviously, the telling is in the playing, but at first glance this is an absolutely amazing achievement from a company who I'm sure has had the usual restructure dramas to deal with.
As another post said, it will be interesting to hear the complaints, simply from the point of view that they will have to be inventive. It will be good for a laugh.
I'm very excited about this issue - so much stuff for both sides of the game. Well done, guys - now, I wonder whether Blizzard will release their next expansion for free?? 
PS - After reading the list for i12, I hope the "I pay my $15 per month" threads will decrease. I for one think this proves beyond doubt that we get value for money. However, I'm expecting a different debate to start now, along the lines of "there's so much to explore in-game - you've caused a divorce!"
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Wow. Just, wow. It looks like they've thrown together an issue with stuff that everyone's been craving for since launch. Customizable powers? Hell Yes! ...
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Ummm... actually, Hell no.
How in the world did you read that announcement and come up with "customizable powers"? 
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/e pissed
Weren't the villain epics supposed to be achieved WITHOUT reaching level 50?
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that's what they originally wanted, but that interview was like what? over a year ago, things change.
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try 2-3 years - before CoV.
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What about the BASES!!!!!!!! Omg Issue after issue, the base builders get the promise... "Its not forgotten.... We'll fix the bugs.... We'll add more content...."
Ok Issue 12, I call Bull! You broke your promise. Yes all this new stuff is great and very much so needed. I bought CoV for the Super Bases and for 6 whole issues, roughly 50% of the updates and 100% of the life of the base... they have been forgotten.
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if issue 12 was going to be small,maybe issue 13 will upgrade teh game engine and fix a lot of the bug/limits the current engine has, devs have done a great job re-tooling the game,and retro fitting, but at some point you have to move on, look at unreal, a very great engine for its time,now they are working on version 4.0,too many time the devs have said to do something would require a major rewrite of the game engine, they have never said they were not working on it.look at issue 6 it was a 2.3 gig download, that is a big issue, so no saying
issue 13 could not be the same, afte all most issue are what 20-30 meg?
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Wait. How exactly do we still have our powers in Ancient Rome? I thought that was way past our "tether" or something?
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The Carbon Teather is over 5700 years long. Roman was about 2000 years ago.
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/e pissed
Weren't the villain epics supposed to be achieved WITHOUT reaching level 50?
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that's what they originally wanted, but that interview was like what? over a year ago, things change.
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try 2-3 years - before CoV.
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BUT Positron (or another redname- it's been a while) said very recent like in the past year that the VEATs would be unlocked by getting a villian to 50.
It is in itself not new news......but to some it unfortunately is.
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Future EATs (if we dare go in that direction)
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Ummm, 'if we dare go in that direction'?
Does this mean there's a good chance of there not being anymore EATs after this?
holy carp! the Devs promise a list of things, and they tell you we can't do them all at the same time.
think of getting VEATs as getting one step closer to base fixes.
anyway, as soon as I saw the title I've been listening to Scooters remix of rebel yell.
IN THE MIDNIGHT HOUR!!!!!!!!!
wooo!
as I scrolled down, when I saw Villain EAT, I my heart skipped a beat and I literally made a weird pathetic gasping sound. It scared me, that that was my reaction.
The only caviot I have... ANOTHER 35-50 co-op zone? Are we turning CoX into a game where it's not two-sided after 50?
anyway, just my initial reaction. The new gameplay features look SWEET. looks more and more like Diablo II HA HA!
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What about the BASES!!!!!!!! Omg Issue after issue, the base builders get the promise... "Its not forgotten.... We'll fix the bugs.... We'll add more content...."
Ok Issue 12, I call Bull! You broke your promise. Yes all this new stuff is great and very much so needed. I bought CoV for the Super Bases and for 6 whole issues, roughly 50% of the updates and 100% of the life of the base... they have been forgotten.
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Two things.
1) Heh, Willy Wonka. Pwned.
2) Bases are actually some of the most FIXED things. Sure they are buggy, but look at WHAT YOU ARE DOING! You are making a completely original, customized piece of real estate inside a server based MMO internet universe. That easily is more advanced than any other aspect of the CoX game... Bases are great, and with a flare of ingenuity, you can pretty much build anything you want (almost).
Base love is great, but its not a PRIORITY over new/diversified powersets, zone revamping, VEATs, and new content. Sorry. Bases are a luxury; an expected luxury, but a luxury nonetheless.
Also, the Whamasylum called. They are missing a Whiner.
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Now if an entire issue were devoted to fixing all of the bugs well... that'd probably be the best issue ever IMO.
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This is actually not a bad idea. At least the big ones--the hostage elevator boogie, the Thugs Brute rock-throwing AI bug, the new one where clicking a power triggers the animation when you're out of range...
Issue 12 looks great, don't get me wrong. But letting serious bugs go unfixed for years is a bit shabby. I'd be willing to forgo a new issue for that.
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/e pissed
Weren't the villain epics supposed to be achieved WITHOUT reaching level 50?
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that's what they originally wanted, but that interview was like what? over a year ago, things change.
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try 2-3 years - before CoV.
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BUT Positron (or another redname- it's been a while) said very recent like in the past year that the VEATs would be unlocked by getting a villian to 50.
It is in itself not new news......but to some it unfortunately is.
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Oh, I know about what Positron said - I am just saying the original "Never again" was pre-CoV
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All of this is great, and I'm really looking forward to it. So much in fact that I'm having troubles even playing any of my current toons because I may replace them once I12 hits. :P
I gotta ask one though... and it's been asked before in this thread, but it needs to be asked again... Talsorian weapons. The rest of them are showing up in I12... right? Right?! RIGHT?! My DB brute NEEDS them to finish off my tech based background.
Keep in mind that this is all just new content. Every issue they list the big things and then add a lot of little things that don't make it into the initial announcement. I have no doubt we will still some bug fixes and maybe some other costume pieces.
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Wait. How exactly do we still have our powers in Ancient Rome? I thought that was way past our "tether" or something?
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The Carbon Teather is over 5700 years long. Roman was about 2000 years ago.
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Yes, but...I thought we couldn't go past Breakout (or Outbreak) because our powers were only level 1?
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Wait. How exactly do we still have our powers in Ancient Rome? I thought that was way past our "tether" or something?
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The Carbon Teather is over 5700 years long. Roman was about 2000 years ago.
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Yes, but...I thought we couldn't go past Breakout (or Outbreak) because our powers were only level 1?
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I am willing to bet we are going to find out that Midnight's crystal is different from Ourobob's, and thus allows us to travel to this specific location without ill effects. Or that the O crystals are specifically designed to limit us to our lifetime's while the midnight crystal has had this limit removed.
What I'm looking forward to is the powersets that'll be available to everyone. Think about it:
Electric Corruptors
Illusion Dominators
Plant Controllers
Radiation Blasters (drool)
The possiblities are endless, and I apologize if this was already brought up but I'm don't have the time to read 50 pages of posts to make sure.
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WTH is with this? I can not name one SUPERHERO (Miller's "300" is NOT a superhero comic) comic book that has ever gone to the Roman time period.
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Fantastic Four.
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