What WON'T you miss?

Absolutely not. But the OP explicitly said not to bring it up, so I was trying to avoid it.

They just said don't bring up PvPers, not the system itself. From the sounds of your list, though, you may as well just delete everything and add "City of Heroes" to it.

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While I was never a fan of mob running, the point of them running to the next spawn was almost certainly to try and lead you into it. Think about what would happen if you were running an anchor toggle on a critter that did that. (As a frequent player of Rad Emission and Dark Miasma characters, I had to think about it a lot.)

But yeah, stuff ran way too much. I never stopped me from playing given ATs or powersets, but I didn't particularly like it.

I loved this about CoH. It's on my list of things I will miss, because I don't think enough other games do this.

This was what that keep me returning to CoH since I hate outdoor missions because they were usually hunt missions (do x of y) be it either mobs, contacts or glowies. It will be what I miss when I am trying other games becuase there is almost no other game left with this feature.

Yeah, tey was one skittish set of mob. The most skittish I ever came across. And I would get the lead them to the next mob thing, maybe, if most of them didnt keep going across the map somewhere to to some random room and sometimes towards the map that is already cleared of mob.

Yea the anchor things was a tad annoying to see one gu run away and before ya know it, ya had half of the map of angry mob on ya case. Which for a tank or melee toon is usualy no probs but on a toon where it can take thre four hits for death from just a single orange conned LT, then it is near certain death.

And then the ones that especially trips me out, is the ones that run, inside missions before you even touch them. And some you punch them once and off they go, sometimes two at time.

Although I wished they did do something with those mob teleporters. They couldnt have thought of a better use for the mob to have teleport except to spam it constantly to random places around the map? I think having teleport toons with long sight, like the sight of Nemesis snipers, and teleport to you to attack, that would have been better than the teleport mob that spams teleport, rendering relatively non-dangerous, and more of a time waster trying to chase it down before it stuck in a wall somewhere in the defeat all mish.

Originally Posted by mauk2 Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words. "Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L!

Interesting - how did you pay for it before it was released again?

Yeah, I don't care what their 'excuse that makes it make sense' was - that was very stupid and annoying.

Same here - I actually really enjoyed going to instances with a team.

That was not your argument, but it was Richard Garriot that convinced NCSoft to publish the game that was already in production with founding from someone Jack "Statesman" knew came though after selling some company or stock.

The same guy that got kicked in the nuts by NCSoft and who's game got also canceled (still have a collector's edition of that by my side.) Same way they canceled Auto Assault on me. Same way they are canceling this on me.

If there is one entity or person that we need to be grateful to, it's Richard Garriott, and the select few in NCSoft that kept defending the game from closure for years (this game has been under the axe for several years now.)

Look, if you want to stick with the company, great. I'm not insulting you for that. But stop going on every corner defending them with flawed logic and treating everyone that does not love NCSoft or GW2 as if they were retards or ignorant that are not greateful for having their game defecated over.

I said I wont miss NCSoft and left it there. You decide to drag it. Unless people insult you for sticking with NCSoft, start respecting their opinions.

I have 3 very good reasons to never miss NCSoft again, some here have up to 5.

And yes, I'm frigging angry. At one point I thought NCSoft had a fresh take on MMOs. They had a Sci-Fi twisted metal-like game, an alien invasion scifi MMO, a super hero MMO, a mech fighting MMO, a frigging Shaolin Soccer inspired mmo that never got to see the light of day... I didnt just trusted the company back then, I promoted them. They killed everything that I cared about from them, to refocus in their 100th fantasy game, only this one has twitchier fighting system. I was not just betrayed, I was backstabbed several times.

The NCSoft I would care for either was just a facade or simply died years ago.

So NO, I wont miss NCSoft.

Mind if I agree with you on all of those points and add a few of my own?

**Minimum TF/SF/Trial Sizes

**Being able to only lead trials once

**Unused/un-updated Special enhancements (Crystal and Hydra)

**Lack of Villain Special enhancements

What does this even mean?

Originally Posted by Dispari I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.

Calm down

Indeed, I've always wondered what they were thinking, loading up low-level content with multiple-stacking to-hit debuffs. Low-level characters already have enough trouble hitting things. It's why I learned to make sure I got the "Meet Lady Jane" mission (in the first Midnighter arc, where you help her find the chest with the vial of Hero 1's blood) no later than level 12. At level 13 those spectrals would start showing up. More than once I found the whole damn cave full of them, which rendered the mission almost impossible because with six of those things on you, you literally cannot hit anything.

Hah! That struck me as something that wasn't thought through when they came up with Stalkers. "Let's see, why don't we make this one AT finish missions with both hands tied behind its back?" A stalker who can't Hide is at a huge disadvantage.

OTOH, I do like the fact that CoH escort missions have the hostage follow me, instead of the way most other games do it: you follow the idiot NPC on a pre-programmed, ridiculously-indirect route through a string of ambushes.

That never bothered me - I'm naturally OCD about doing full clears of maps

Related to this: The inconsistency regarding when mobs react to your ranged attack. The game "rolls" as soon as you hit the attack button. If you hit, the mob reacts when the attack hits them. But if you miss, the mob reacts the instant you hit the button (i.e. the instant the "roll" is made), immediately counterattacking and/or charging toward you while you're still stuck going through the entire attack animation.

And this leads to the one thing that I absolutely won't miss: MISSING ALL THE FREAKING TIME. I honestly believe that this was likely a big turnoff to new players. I saw a new player in Help chat one day semi-joking, "LOL, I'd be dangerous if I could hit anything!" The Accuracy/ToHit issue is something I've griped about since I started playing the game, and I love the game. I have no trouble seeing it being an immediate "no thank you" for somebody who's impatient or wishy-washy about the game.

If you're used to a game like WoW (as I was before picking up CoH), the fact that a mere +1 level advantage can make an enemy almost impossible to hit is incredibly frustrating. There is a huge psychological difference between "HIT, but for insignificant damage" and "WHIFF! WHIFF! WHIFF! WHIFF!" The former makes you say, "It's gonna be a challenge, but if I can stay alive I can take this guy down!". The latter makes you say, "!@#$% WTF? Why can't I even hit this guy? This sucks!" It's the same principle slot machines are based on - a machine with frequent, small payouts keep people playing longer than a machine with nothing but one big prize.

I ended up visiting a Hero Corps Analyst/Fateweaver on almost every character I rolled to set my mission difficulty to -1, because at +0 my missions were loaded with +1 mobs. I got tired of walking into missions and running into a string of +1 lieutenants that made me have to stop and rest after every spawn (or rather, after using Rest once, having to just stop and stand around for several minutes waiting for my HP and Endurance to recover). I'm a super-strong, invulnerable superhero. A street punk with a zipgun shouldn't be giving me this much trouble.

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Oh yeah, one other thing I won't miss: Panicked civilians inside missions. I really really wished that civilians inside missions had the same AI as those out on the street: RUN AWAY FROM THE BAD GUYS! Instead, they run straight toward the villains, or run deeper into the map instead of heading for the exits. I've actually had melee characters die because they ended up with a logjam of civilians trapping them into a corner while ranged-attacking enemies stand across the room filling me full of holes.

My understanding of the reason for this is that it's intended to prevent people from using a deliberate logout to avoid defeat/death. At least that's the reason in WoW. "Sure, you can log out, but your character will stay behind for a bit." But WoW at least made an exception for logging out in a "safe" location, i.e. an inn or other "safe zone". It would be cool if the same applied in CoH, like logging out in a train station, a store, the University (basically, any Day Job location).