Avengers shatters all boxoffice opening weekend records.
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Posted on: 2012-05-06 19:10 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
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While I think Avengers has enough world-wide appeal to easily blast past a billion in world wide grosses quickly, I don't think its likely to cross three billion. My best guess is that three months from now we'll be seeing Avengers coast into about two billion in total world wide grosses.
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Originally Posted by starphoenix
According to wikipedia, Avatar made about $2.8 billion in the box office. Should be interesting to see how badly Avengers trounces Avatar's record.
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Kick in DVD sales, and it might threaten 3 Bil.|
Originally Posted by Arcanaville
While I think Avengers has enough world-wide appeal to easily blast past a billion in world wide grosses quickly, I don't think its likely to cross three billion. My best guess is that three months from now we'll be seeing Avengers coast into about two billion in total world wide grosses.
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In other news from the "Well, Duh!" desk: The official announcement for Avengers 2 was made today. Yes, there will be a sequel, like there was a doubt. If they wait till after the next Captain movie, it would be holiday time in 2014. Cap 2 comes out in the spring of that year. I don't see them waiting till the next summer.
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Last I read was that we get Iron Man 3, Cap 2 and THOR 2 and then Avengers 2 with a possible Hulk movie in 2015
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Originally Posted by White Hot Flash
Kick in DVD sales, and it might threaten 3 Bil.
In other news from the "Well, Duh!" desk: The official announcement for Avengers 2 was made today. Yes, there will be a sequel, like there was a doubt. If they wait till after the next Captain movie, it would be holiday time in 2014. Cap 2 comes out in the spring of that year. I don't see them waiting till the next summer. |
Okay, the down side:
It makes it less likely they can get Whedon to write an episode for Dr Who... 
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Whedon/Moffat co-production. Ta-da. 
Whedon guarantees budget, Moffat writes amazing script, Whedon goes all Avengers, instant blockbuster.
...I should be a Hollywood producer.
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Heh. Nice points, but I dunno. I grew up in an era where a nothing show that completely was hated by the establishment aired in all sorts of random ways, spread by word of mouth, became a cult hit and eventually spawned hit movies.|
Originally Posted by Hestis
This is one point that I just can't agree on. To say this about any from of entertainment is just, I think, not a valid argument. How many bands/musicians don't get popular until 10 or more years into their career? Metallica is a pretty good example here; they have a decently sized, hardcore following, then they release an album more aimed at a mainstream audience, get radio and MTV/media coverage, and turn into one of the biggest bands on the planet. Look at how long it took Lord of the Rings to go from something "nerds" read in their parents' basement to being part of pop culture. Look at Family Guy, which got cancelled, and brought back through word of mouth and DVD sales. Star Trek. If any of these things had gotten the "1 and done" treatment that Firefly got, we wouldn't still be talking about them today.
And as for the order the episodes aired in not having an effect, I think that can relate directly to Avengers. If it had come out first, before the general, non comic book crowd, saw the individual movies, would it have been as successful? Would it have worked if the general viewing audience had no idea who these characters were? Personally, I think one of the reasons it worked so well was because it was built up the right way. Marvel took a chance giving each of those characters their own movies to set the stage, and it paid off in a big way. I've introduced a lot (in relative terms) of people to Firefly, and it has almost unanimously been met with praise, even from friends who don't like sci-fi. I realize that's just anecdotal evidence, but I think that it does speak to the possibility that Ff could have been more successful given studio support and publicity. I'm not going to argue whether Serenity was better than Avengers or Star Wars, I like them all, and everybody is going to like different things, so that doesn't bother me. But some people (  ) (not you, Oz) have reverse fanboy blinders on when it comes to Firefly. |
It was Monty Python. And this was in the seventies. Some shows, regardless of how they're presented, how they're treated by their parent company, and even regardless of when it's aired, get over because people want to see more of it. It's that intangible thing that seperates Star Trek from other sci-fi, for instance. And Star Trek was pretty much buried by Paramount until the fans got behind it, big time.
It's one of those things where the fans will embrace something just on its quality, no matter what the Powers That Be will do to it.
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Originally Posted by SuperOz
Whedon/Moffat co-production. Ta-da.
Whedon guarantees budget, Moffat writes amazing script, Whedon goes all Avengers, instant blockbuster. ...I should be a Hollywood producer. S. |
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Originally Posted by DreamWeaver
You really shouldn't. Because there's an actual grain of truth in what you just said, not one misuse of "air quotes", and I quite like you and don't want to have to put you up against the wall when the revolution comes.
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so in other words, we turned on the internet|
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so in other words, we turned on the internet
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Originally Posted by SuperOz
Heh. Nice points, but I dunno. I grew up in an era where a nothing show that completely was hated by the establishment aired in all sorts of random ways, spread by word of mouth, became a cult hit and eventually spawned hit movies.
It was Monty Python. And this was in the seventies. Some shows, regardless of how they're presented, how they're treated by their parent company, and even regardless of when it's aired, get over because people want to see more of it. It's that intangible thing that seperates Star Trek from other sci-fi, for instance. And Star Trek was pretty much buried by Paramount until the fans got behind it, big time. It's one of those things where the fans will embrace something just on its quality, no matter what the Powers That Be will do to it. S. |
There was like 3 channels in the 70s and no internet. Nowadays I wont watch primetime TV cause id rather watch it later on hulu with less commercials. And later may be more than a year or two.
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I thought the movie actually cost 200 mill to make?? Evry time I see the cost it seems to have gone up another 100 mill.
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Originally Posted by Head_Kracker
I thought the movie actually cost 200 mill to make?? Evry time I see the cost it seems to have gone up another 100 mill.
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is that the same accounting method that generates the "losses" due to Piracy?
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Says it's just an estimate. Could still come under a billion.
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Originally Posted by Desi_Nova
is that the same accounting method that generates the "losses" due to Piracy?
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Only a 50% drop off from opening weekend, which is great for a blockbuster.
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First $100M+ second weekend. Very nice.|
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Only a 50% drop off from opening weekend, which is great for a blockbuster.
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Saw it again with my teenager daughter this weekend. Interesting contrast in perspective. She was all grumpy because "Avengers" trumped out her "Hunger Games" so soon. She understood that it isn't a zero sum game, but she wanted the rosy period of recognition for her favorite to last longer.
She also thought that once it got going there was too much boom and not enough dialogue. Her favorite scenes that she quickly rattled off when asked were when the characters were interacting and talking. I thought that was interesting.
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I find this funny because my mother the whole time was "I just want it to beat Hunger Games...A LOT!"
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Originally Posted by Chyll
First $100M+ second weekend. Very nice.
Saw it again with my teenager daughter this weekend. Interesting contrast in perspective. She all grumpy because "Avengers" trumped out her "Hunger Games" so soon. She understood that it isn't a zero sum game, but she wanted to the rosy period of recognition for her favorite to last longer. She also thought that once it got going there was too much boom and not enough dialogue. Her favorite scenes that she quickly rattled off when asked were when the characters were interacting and talking. I thought that was interesting. |
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That's kind of interesting - I hadn't really thought to compare Hunger Games and Avengers directly but I guess it's worthwhile since they both made a ton of money recently. |
Originally Posted by Chyll
First $100M+ second weekend. Very nice.
Saw it again with my teenager daughter this weekend. Interesting contrast in perspective. She all grumpy because "Avengers" trumped out her "Hunger Games" so soon. She understood that it isn't a zero sum game, but she wanted to the rosy period of recognition for her favorite to last longer. She also thought that once it got going there was too much boom and not enough dialogue. Her favorite scenes that she quickly rattled off when asked were when the characters were interacting and talking. I thought that was interesting. |
To my mind neither film was absolutely perfect, but strangely enough they missed that mark almost for opposite reasons. The Hunger Games needed about 10 more minutes of action where the Avengers needed about 10 minutes -less- action. The Hunger Games dragged a bit in a few places and the final arena fight scenes were a bit lacking. On the other hand Avengers sort of glossed over the relevance of invading army a bit too much. It almost didn't matter who they were just like it doesn't matter in most video games and while that's fine for your average video game I would have liked a few more minutes to fully understand why they'd bother to invade Earth in the first place. As someone who hasn't read the Avengers for decades like other fans out there it would filled in the backstory a bit more for me.
All in all I'd give both movies 8/10. Since we're guaranteed to get sequels to both we'll just have to see if they can both shore up their minor failings in their pacing next time around.
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Wouldn't the 3 years between the end of the series and the release of the movie have helped to build up a bigger fanbase like other "cult" seires?
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