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Quote:The whole face Vader thing to complete his training to me wasn't revenge for what happened to the Jedi and the galaxy it was simply to stop Vader and then the Emperor. Luke wasn't out for revenge, and Jedi as a rule don't seek revenge hence the title change from Revenge of the Jedi to Return of the Jedi.Originally Posted by Ironik
It's not just the one-liners in the dialogue, it's the whole thing. Everything Yoda says is nonsense. He's a shave Fozzie Bear spouting gibberish. When I first saw the movie, I thought he told Luke his training would only be complete once he "faced failure." That was the only worthwhile thing he said. Come to find out he said "face Vader," it brings us back into the revenge melodrama.
Now thanks to the prequels we also know that a Jedi trainee is called a Padawan and that to become a Knight means facing some special trial or task the Masters set upon you. For Obi Wan they considered his fight and win against Maul as his trial, for Luke it was to face Vader again in battle now that Luke's power and control had increased from ESB. Had Luke not reacted as he did in the cave test in ESB, perhaps Yoda would have declared him a Knight at that point.
Indeed, I've reminded many that for all the rewards the Star Wars movies have won, Best Actor/Actress haven't been among them.Quote:Aside from Carrie Fisher -- who really is *terrible* in Star Wars (listen to how her accent changes depending on who she's with) -- I don't think there's really any bad acting going on. People ding Hamill for his portrayal, but he's playing an aw-shucks farmboy; of course he sounds goody half the time. He does quite a lot with very little. And Ford is just acting the hell out of that role, far more than he would do once he hit superstar status in his 40s and went into cruise control mode.
Yes, beware the elder Star Wars fansQuote:Exactly. That's one of the things I kept reminding people when they bellyached about Phantom Menace: as bad as it is, if you're over 13 then you aren't the target audience. We grew up but Star Wars didn't. Lucas has always said, from the very earliest interviews, that Star Wars is aimed specifically at the 12-14 year-old.
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Seriously though, these are good "B" sci-fi movies and way back in 1977, both luck and the Force was with George Lucas. None of the 6 are flawless and there are many fans that need to remove the rose colored glasses when viewing the classics.......same with the Indiana Jones movies. All Indy movies were good, some better then others but I always laugh when people complain about the "fridge nuke". How many times in the other three movies did Indy defy the impossible odds of survival? The fridge nuke is really no different or more far fetched then diving out of a crashing plane on an inflatable raft and sliding down a mountain. The impact of them first hitting the ground should have been fatal or at least severely injured them much less the rest of the slide. Or using his boot heels as brakes to stop the mine cart......he's dancing around on his burning boots yelling for water when by rights his boots and feet should have been gone.
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Quote:I would love for Thrawn to be on the big screen, but as stated Hamil and co. are a bit too old for that story UNLESS they use CGI de-aging. Tim Zahn himself has stated that due to all the time that has now passed that the Thrawn trilogy would be best put in between ROTJ and Ep 7Originally Posted by Forefinger_
I think that they should have Grand Admiral Thrawn (don't remember the spelling) be the big bad guy. But I guess the actors are too old for that story; but they could mismash that story with some with the New Jedi Order stuff to have some new main protagonists.
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Quote:I posted this idea earlier, glad to see great minds think alike. The only other possibility is that Vader/Anakin set things up where a healthy, young clone of himself would be created and programmed with his memories if he was reported as deceased. Per the novels, the original gives some DNA to the cloners and they also take a "flash imprint" of their mind/memories to program into the clone so that the clone has the original's memories and personality. Vader could have set this up in advance in case he was destroyed as he knew a young and undamaged clone of himself wouldn't suffer any impediments to his Force power levels and or abilities.....unlike Vader himself.Originally Posted by GreenFIame
God I hope Not, I thought the New Star Wars would be about Luke or Lea Offsprings, They really need to be more Creative. I mean Darth Vader has redeem himself at the end of Starwars by saving his son life, only thing I can think of to bring him back is this Vader is a Copy Cat Vader, pretending to be the Real Vader to strike Fear in the universe once again.
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Quote:The Jedi Academy trilogy of Novels where Luke gathers his first students did have him locate and use a device that could scan people and determine their Force power level. As this predates the prequels by a few years it is possible that Lucas took this idea and ran with it as the novels and their content did need his approval.Originally Posted by TheBruteSquad
1 - The Force was always described as in part hereditary - Luke was strong it it, like his father. Leia would to paraphrase Luke 'do what I can do' in time because she was his sister. Yoda and Vader took it as a given that she could be trained/turned for the same reason.
This is actually what I'm most annoyed with when it comes to making the Jedi order monks who don't have families in canon. If the Force runs in family lines and you are recruiting less and less Jedi per year - it's because you're (lack of) breeding the sensitivity out of the population, *********.
2 - The midichlorian thing could haved used a better explanation. It's implied that they're responsible for power in the Force, but not clearly stated. Perhaps they simply flourish in people who are Force sensitive... and that the more sensitive you are the more they flourish (not so much causing Force potential as being nourished by it). An effect, not a cause.
Then again being Lucas probably not. Still, I like my explanation better so it's canon to me (and my SW RPG group, who loved the idea - leaving the Force mysterious yet giving a biological marker for Jedi science to recognize potentials).
3 - There has only ever always been two Sith in Star Wars. It's never even hinted at that there are more kicking around in the background in the original trilogy. Why not? Palpatine's ruled uncontested for almost 20 years by this point - enough time to track down other force sensitives and turn them to the dark side and make a Sith secret police to cement his power.
Oh. Right. Because twisted by the dark side 'dominating their destiny' they'd probably try to overthrow him. Just like Vader was planning.
The 'two' thing I completely agree with. Plus, as The Old Republic games show, the more Sith you add the less menacing and interesting they become. Less 'oh my god, a Sith!' and more 'faceless minion 433443, with a lightsaber'. -
Quote:No argument there. When they first did the midichlorian test to show Anakin's power level I suddenly flashbacked to DBZ when Vegita said "OVER NINE THOUSAND!!!!"Originally Posted by Dr_Illuminatis
Cut out the midichlorian thing all together because it weakens the whole force concept in one truly significant way. That if anyone has the insight, instinct, and is so in tune with the Universe, than they have the possibility to be able to use the Force like any Jedi. The reason only Jedi and Sith are able to use it, is that they are the ones who understand how the Universe truly works.
Once he introduced MidiChlorians, that whole thing became mute, you just needed a high midichlorian level to be able to use the force. IMO it weakened the concept significantly. -
Quote:Only reasons why I'd want the 6 movies rebooted and redone would be:Originally Posted by Lothic
Yeah the TV show was going to be based around a completely different set of characters, with maybe a cameo or two of the "main" characters from Ep.I-III. It seemed like a reasonable idea that would at least explain what was going on during that period of the timeline.
And I agree I don't think it would be a very good idea to do to Star Wars what Abrams did to Star Trek - have a bunch of new actors playing the roles of the original trilogy cast. That worked for Abrams because he was "rebooting" Star Trek. Star Wars is a different situation. I think it would be better for the Ep.VII-IX trilogy to be set far enough in the future that pretty much all of the original trilogy characters would be dead, except for Luke which could be explained by him being a very old Jedi master. In this new trilogy Luke could end up serving the same role Yoda did to a new batch of young Jedi.
1. Revise scripts to ensure all 6 fit together better, example: ROTJ Leia states she has dim memories of her true mother, Ep 3: padme dies minutes after giving birth...... does not compute, unless one goes with the idea that Leia is actually remembering her foster mother who may have died long before Alderaan was destroyed. Another: R2D2 using jets to fly in Ep 2, he one would think he would have used them in Ep 5 after the X-wing crashed in the swamp.....so such technical inconsistencies could be purged.
2. Better casting then what we got for certain characters in Ep 2 and 3....and some better directing of said cast, sorry George.
3. The removal of Jar Jar Binks as comedy relief, yes he was a great CGI test but he was annoying.
4. The lightsaber duel of Ep 4: old Obi vs. Vader......still fun to watch but it doesn't quite stack up against the duels of the other 5 movies, not to mention how many years it took them to go back and fix the broken F/X on the sabers...... The saber duels in Ep 5 and 6 are still fine to watch considering that in Ep 5 Vader was testing Luke and didn't reall go full force on him until Luke wounded his arm, upon which Vader proceeds to easily "disarm" Luke. Ep 6, neither were going full force at first as Vader wanted to corrupt Luke and Luke wanted to save his father. It wasn't until Vader taunted Luke about corrupting Leia that Luke cut loose and easily beat down Vader. The prequel fights were just good vs evil no holds barred.
5. If we must have a disposable character like Qui-Gon, then please film ALL the character scenes including any and all GHOST scenes for the sequels and please for once and for all give an on screen explanation of how the whole Force Ghost thing works. The novelization of Ep 3 at the end has Qui-Gon talking to Yoda as he awaits Obi-Wan's arrival from Mustafar and Qui-Gon offering to show Yoda how to join the Force to exist as a ghost.
6. some fans seemed to gripe a bit about how the Jedi failed to detect that Palpatine was Sidious, so I suppose some dialogue and plot alterations to cover that would be useful. I figured it out as that all the darkside energy generated from the wars was clouding the Jedi senses as Yoda stated in Ep 2 and all that dark energy was concealing Sidious who was also taking care to conceal himself. Also that this isn't Highlander where immortals get an automatic proximity alert when another gets within range.
7. For Ep 2, when Anakin's mother dies in his arms and he goes ballistic on the sand people (which I understand and agree with his reactions), SHOW what he does. Granted you will forsake the PG rating, but Ep 3 went for PG13 so amp it up in Ep 2. The novelization described quite clearly what Anakin was doing and that when he was done the village was a scorch mark except for the hut that contained his mother. I think that showing what he does will have a greater impact on the audience and show his descent into darkness much better then him just describing it to Padme
8. I understand the purpose of midichlorians as a plot device to show Anakin's power potential but either explain them far better or just remove them. -
Quote:Disney has the money and the tech, especially now with this sale. They just might be able to swing it. Given the age disparity between Han and Luke, they wouldn't need to CGI de-age Ford too much compared to Hamil and Fischer.Originally Posted by 8_Ball
Yeah...to get the originals in it would probably take more CGI than they'd be able to budget for
I expect Chewbacca as Wookies live a long time and the Droids in the new movies for certain.
Also, may episode 7 show once and for all that Luke and Leia learn who their mother is. It took WAY too many years in the EU novels to happen due to Lucas' rule to all writers "DO NOT TOUCH THE PREQUEL ERA, DO NOT MENTION THEIR MOTHER" only for years later after Ep 3 to reveal that deep inside Artoo's memory banks are copies of the footage of the temple slaughter, padme facing anakin on mustafar and her giving birth to them and then dying......ugh -
Quote:Well Zahn himself did state that since so much time has passed that the Thrawn trilogy could work as a story during the gap between ROTJ and number 7.Originally Posted by BrandX
It's not the Thrawn trilogy, so I'm sad already.
I wouldn't mind them continueing the adventures of Luke, Leia, and Han, and using new actors for the roles, then having Mark, Carrie, and Harrison in as cameos or as more than a cameo but new role.
Or they could CGI de-age the originals enough to do the Thrawn trilogy.....
To be honest from a nostalgia standpoint I'd love to see the originals in the new movies......but so many years have passed it would be almost as bad as Shatner trying to stuff himself back into a Starfleet uniform again to reprise Kirk..... -
Quote:Sounds unlikely, while it is true this is science fiction and thus almost anything goes, reviving Darth Vader is both a mistake and pretty much impossible.Originally Posted by Unknown_User
According to this article. Episode VII will resurrect Darth Vader and cast him as the main villain.
1. He absorbed a lethal dose of the lightning and fried his bionics and life support systems and given we saw his skull flare inside the helmet I would bet that some of his brain got stir fried as well.
2. He bids Luke farewell and dies.
3. Luke burns his body in a funeral pyre.
4. We see Anakin's redeemed ghost with Obi and Yoda.
So how could vader return from that?
1. His spirit split into a good and evil spirit and the evil one calls itself Vader and returns. This would be pretty much stark raving stupid.
2. A new dark Jedi/Sith Lord has arisen and decides to take up the name and armor of Darth Vader to rally troops still loyal to the Empire as well as bring some fear and confusion to the Republic. Luke will know it is not truly his father of course, Leia may be a bit uncertain along with Han, and the Republic forces will be wary at first thinking that Vader has truly returned.
3. The only other possibility is this: Vader/Anakin was experimenting with cloning in an effort to replace his limbs, lungs, larynx, eyes,....pretty much his entire body as he was so heavily injured. However the experiments didn't workout for whatever reason so he was stuck in the armor and life support gear......but as a contingency in case of his death he set things up where a completely healthy and of course evil clone of him would be created. This copy of Anakin would be programmed with all the memories of Vader at the time Vader recorded his memories and thus already be darkside but in this case he is healthy, no injuries and is at the peak of his powers. Grand Admiral Thrawn had a similar plan in case of his death....and it is possible that plan succeeded as Mara pointed out to Luke they found A cloning facility but maybe not the only one....
What's funny is that I remember that the original plan for the insane Jedi clone Joruus C'baoth was that he was going to be an insane clone of Obi Wan but Lucas nixed that.
So...an insane/evil clone of Anakin minus being chicken fried in lava? or a darkside impostor looking to cash in on the reputation of Vader? -
Quote:I expect Disney to keep a tight leash of control yes, but not a hammerlock like they do with other things.Originally Posted by Dark One
Doubtful, IMO. You don't spend $4 billion on a property and then tell people they can do whatever they want with it.
Of course the expanded universe novels to me have pretty much played themselves out so if they end, then they end. Wasn't too thrilled with the Legacy books and fate of the Jedi didn't impress me much.
Also here is an article about why fans seem to want to see the classic characters in Ep 7 to 9 as well as whether or not it would be a good thing.
http://spinoff.comicbookresources.co...new-star-wars/
I have nothing against the classic heroes showing up, but a lot of years have passed...
HOWEVER there is a possible solution: CGI de-aging and usage of stunt doubles like they did for TRON and CLU2 in Tron Legacy. While not a perfect solution, it could likely be better then seeing them as they are now trying to run around like heroes in a new trilogy. Years have passed and sometimes the years are not kind.....
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Quote:Valid points, however Star Wars may be the exception to Disney's norm.Originally Posted by Ironik
Actually, I think it's possible it might be a very bad thing for the fans.
George Lucas, for all of the "lost his way" talk about Star Wars, is unique among creators/owners of big-time franchises: he still has a little bit of his hippie, "everybody share the love" mentality from his formative years in the late '60s and early '70s. Disney has been known to litigate the hell out of people who use their characters. Among others, they've sued a day care, artists, a Girl Scout troop and even a grandmother who painted a giant-sized Goofy for her grandson's birthday. George Lucas, on the other hand, lets people have fun with Star Wars. Many have pointed to this attitude as instrumental to keeping the franchise alive between movies and have used it as an example of how letting go of a little bit of control can reap huge dividends in return. Disney isn't like that. They are a draconian corporation in every dark sense. They aren't Paramount Studios-level stupid (but then few are), but it's possible their ownership will have a chilling effect on Star Wars fandom. -
Quote:I look at the pic of him in the armor and I remember how lucky we are that he wasn't chosen to play IRON MANOriginally Posted by Father Xmas
I guess he's staring in the movie adaptation of a YA SciFi J-novel "All You Need is Kill".
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Quote:That actually raises an interesting question: though there would still be competition out there (Time Warner/DC, Paramount), IF Disney were to obtain Hasbro and all its properties just how much of the entertainment market would they have?Originally Posted by Thunder Knight
That they'd also own Monopoly is just sort of an ironic cherry on that corporate sundae.
Honestly I never thought Star Wars would end up at the house of mouse, not that it is a bad thing mind you, but now just imagine if the day comes when Disney obtains Warner Bros. and hence would have the Loony Toons and all their other properties. -
Quote:The incident with THOR vs Juggernaut that you refer to occurred in THOR vol 1 during Acts of Vengeance and also was the debut of the original New Warriors. Loki freed Juggernaut and sent him to New York where he knew THOR would notice and battle him. At the time THOR was suffering bouts of weakness due to being poisoned by Loki so he wasn't quite up to full strength for the fight.Originally Posted by Tenzhi
Except for that time in the comics when he learned to use his powers sorcerously, became about on par with Dr. Strange, and took over a whole other dimension. IIRC, I believe that one can be blamed on Thor not having the stomach for hand to hand combat with Juggernaut one day and just using his hammer to open a portal and send Marko to another dimension where he subsequently had to take up a hobby *other* than trying to flatten his brother.
THOR fights Juggy, gets pounded badly and the New Warriors step in to help but that is like sending ants to attack an elephant. THOR recovers his full strength and calls down the lightning onto Juggernaut but it didn't faze him. So THOR then calls upon his penultimate power where he channels all his energies and that of his hammer into a huge energy blast that had once driven Galactus away from devouring Ego the Living Planet and even breached the brain vault of a Celestial. This energy blast is the first time that Juggernaut was PUSHED BACK and he fell into a pit. THOR sealed the pit then sent Juggy to another dimension where he got free and vowed to return.
Issues later, the group Excalibur made contact with THOR and after the usual hero misunderstanding that leads to hero vs hero fights, THOR takes them to where he sent Juggy. Juggy conquered a nearby planet, freeing it from a cruel leader only to become a worse leader. They fight again and this time THOR used his hammer to temporarily nullify the shield that protects Juggy and began to pound him until his hammer returned before the 60 second time limit occurred that would revert him to mortal form. THOR ends up sending Juggy off planet and he was later brought back to Earth in early issues of X-force. -
Latest rumors:
STAR WARS EPISODE VII
It's all about the "Star Wars Episode VII" rumor mill these days as more and more old "Star Wars" cast members are being interviewed and asked whether they'll appear in the upcoming sequel. Harrison Ford is rumored to have expressed interest in returning as Han Solo and Unleash the Fanboy spoke with original Boba Fett actor Jeremy Bulloch about possibly reprising his role as the fan-favorite bounty hunter.
"Realistically I’m sure if Boba Fett were to return they would go with someone younger, but I’m still fit and can jump around," Bulloch told Unleash the Fanboy. "I’d love to be involved in some way, maybe a cameo as an ageing Bounty Hunter in the corner somewhere."
Finally, Celebuzz reports the rumor that indie director Colin Trevorrow, responsible for "Safety Not Guaranteed," had early discussions with Lucasfilm about coming on to direct "Episode VII" prior to the sale of the company to Disney and remains on the list of potential directors to helm the new trilogy. -
Quote:It was either part of the package but they deemed it irrelevant or else it wasn't bought due to Spielberg owning part of it, I forget which.Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Uhm as I recall Disney didn't buy the Indiana Jones IP.
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Quote:I have to admit, that image is rather funny to imagine.Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
I can just see it now. Donald Duck, Uncle Scrooge, Hewey, Dewey, and Louie being chased around a dungeon by hungry orcs.
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Quote:Kind of like how many never thought Disney would own Star Wars, much less everything else that Lucas createdOriginally Posted by Lothic
It's been bad enough having to deal with WotC taking over for TSR, but the idea of Disney effectively owning D&D is simply surrealistic. Let's just say 20 years ago I would have never figured that likely in the least.
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TRON UPRISING: SCARS PART 2
Okay so Beck awakens and sees TRON riding away and pursues and we get a brief lightcycle fight between them. TRON wins and leaves Beck on the ground, but Beck slipped a tracer on TRON's cycle and follows.
Beck catches up to TRON later and begs him to not end the revolution before it starts, but TRON beats Beck in hand to hand combat and cuffs him to a guard rail and tosses Beck's disc aside.
Dyson has been making himself at home in Tessler's base and Tessler is silently fuming. Dyson plans to stay awhile and hopes to meet the Renegade. Tessler's lieutenant tries to conspire with Paige to team up to undo Tessler but she refuses and shuts down the sabotage he was causing.
We see in flashback that after CLU defeated TRON that TRON awakes in a cylinder surrounded by other cylinders containing captured security programs that TRON once commanded. He then sees them start to get repurposed when he is pulled from the cylinder and into Dyson's workshop. As Dyson is working on TRON, one of the guards notes that there are no screams and wonders why and the other guard says "He's TRON". The guard that was curious gets concerned but says nothing.
In the lab Dyson is at his workbench and tells TRON that the others are being repurposed but that the process doesn't leave much of the memory/personality intact and wants TRON to join CLU willingly as Dyson had done. TRON refuses and then Dyson pulls out a small hand held blade and says that he didn't want to do this but that he will now show TRON what it is like to be "imperfect" and proceeds to carve out a good chunk of TRON's face. Dyson then sends for the guards and tells them to take TRON to the command cruiser and the previous guard is horrified at what was done to TRON. As Dyson watches the Recognizer fly away he sees it explode and then crash, thus concluding that TRON was now derezzed.
In the present, TRON battles Dyson and is losing at first then makes the typical comeback and starts beating Dyson and gets Dyson's disc. He then retracts his helmet to show Dyson who he is fight and Dyson freaks out stating "I watched you die!" TRON responds "I'll watch YOU die!" As Dyson is cornered he tells TRON that he added a failsafe to TRON's code where if he gets too low on energy he will die unlike other programs that just get tired when they are too low on energy. He tells TRON he can restore him and make him perfect again if he joins them. TRON refuses and is about to derezz Dyson when he remembers the program that sabotaged the Recognizer and crashed it while they ejected into the mountains. The program said his name was Cyrus and that the revolution shouldn't end before it starts. TRON then lets Dyson live and tells him to take a message back to CLU. Beck has since freed himself and watches TRON defeat Dyson and then sees TRON walk away.
Back at TRON's base, Beck is back in the TRON suit and TRON heals up and emerges from the healing machine. He both apologizes to Beck and thanks him for helping to clear his head.
Back at CLU's fortress, Dyson reports to CLU that he is back from Argon with a message from an old friend that he saw his face with his own eyes, the message: "TRON LIVES".
CLU then asks who else knows about this, and Dyson looks at the one guard in the room that just happens to be Cyrus and derezzes him then says "just us". CLU responds "Let's keep it that way."
So TRON doesn't become Rinzler yet, but we have learned what happened to TRON and why his wounds will not permanently heal and why his fight time is now diminished. We also learn more about CLU's repurposing process. Given that it wipes out most of the original personality, I'd speculate that when CLU finally does capture TRON that he will merely separate TRON from his disc until his memories fade enough and then attack the RINZLER to disc to him so that the new persona acts as a shell program to keep TRON under control then returns TRON's original disc, now as a secondary to him so that he has the two discs we see in Legacy. Dyson also knows that TRON dwells in a cave somewhere feed off of an energy source. One important thing to note: Dyson never sees Beck in either his normal mode or TRON mode so Dyson really does believe that the Renegade is in fact TRON, thus Beck's cover is safe. -
Quote:Well I can't see anti-trust laws stopping such an acquisition, but Disney seems to be getting a bit too big of late but that's just me.Originally Posted by Unknown_User
Just a rumor, but MTV geek is reporting that Disney is in secret talks to acquire Hasbro. If it's true and if both parties agree to the buy out then it would give Disney the rights to Transformers, GI Joe, MLP, and every other Hasbro property. If it's true seems like the House of Mouse is on a mad shopping spree. Wonder if anyone can convince them to buy the City of Heroes IP
As to Transformers going to Disney....while I don't relish the idea of a disney toyline of transforming Disney characters , if such a sale keeps Michael Bay's hands OFF any and all future TF movies then I wouldn't mind. -
http://robot6.comicbookresources.com...opyright-case/
http://robot6.comicbookresources.com...-legal-battle/
I do so wish that DC and the estates would fire their lawyers and then sit down at a conference table and resolve this in a more expedient fashion. I've read about the deals that DC offered the creators such as their names being credited in perpetuity for creating Superman as well as yearly amounts of cash, benefits and survivor benefits. While the amount in the deal may be a fraction (or micro fraction) of what DC makes, it still isn't that bad of a deal. Perhaps they should stick with that deal, increase the amount a bit to accommodate the changing times/economy and let it be done. -
X3 was putrid and is best filed under W.W.N.S.O.T. along with Wolverine.
As to all the continuity changes in superhero movies, people need to remember that in the opening credits there tend to be the words "BASED ON" followed by whatever comic and comic company produces the comic. Based on does not mean direct copy, and frankly some things in the comics just wouldn't work on the big screen.
Case in point, when IRON MAN first started in the comics he had to wear a bulky chest plate under his shirt at all times and plug in an extension cord to recharge......somehow I just don't think that would be as cool as a glowing arc reactor plugged into his chest.
HULK: I myself would like to see the gamma bomb used for the movie origin, but the lab accident is a salute to Bill Bixby/Ferrigno and easier/cheaper to set up and film then a bomb test. Also I suspect certain "political correctness" reasons may apply. Also the Ang Lee Hulk movie did make a nod to the gamma bomb when we see the green mushroom cloud occur after David Banner flipped out and triggered a gamma purge of the base. Also the movies stick with Hulk being green or green-gray in color and do not mention Grey Hulk (too bad)
Captain America: he's found by SHIELD and not the Avengers....no big deal. Also he wasn't thrown into the warmer waters by Submariner like he was in the comics that led to him being found in Avengers 4, no big deal.
THOR: his movie made fun use of the Don Blake name and didn't give us the actual character. Fine by me. -
Quote:Eh he could go close, lose some power from the red sun but not die from the power loss. Then he returns to our system and quickly re-energizes from the yellow sun.Originally Posted by Scythus
As if the red sun wasn't already a crimper?
It's the Kryptonite that would be the real problem, I doubt there is enough lead on Earth to block out that much radiation.
Kind of like Batman/Superman Public Enemies, the giant kryptonite asteroid is approaching and Superman suggests to Batman that he could use a lead suit and go up and smash it. Batman states "there is not enough lead to block that much radiation, and it wouldn't handle all that smashing"
Also I always chuckle at the Justice League DOOM movie when Superman suggests moving Earth out of the way of the solar flare. Batman responds "If I had a WEEK I couldn't begin to list all the things wrong with that!" -
Not to mention that said debris should be 100% pure kryptonite, so Superman shouldn't be feeling any urges to explore the area.