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Then I'd suggest you take the advice you gave to me earlier.
Stop trying to engage me. You won't win.


 

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The next powerset that is due for release is staff fighting - you can almost guarantee that there will be extra skins for sale, but they won't be free.
And I'm still not seeing a problem here. You keep assuming that others are going to have a problem paying for things like weapons skins. Not true, I've always been happy to. If I don't want it I don't buy it.

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And please remember there is a difference between making money and money grabbing. E.g. Paragon Studios starts being greedy, so Xanatos cancels his subscription. They haven't made any money, but they have tried to "money grab".
And I fail to see any money grabbing here.


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Stop trying to engage me. You won't win.
I'm not, you're not my time. Besides, I'm already engaged.




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I'm not, you're not my time. Besides, I'm already engaged.
You have no chance to win make your time


 

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You have no chance to win make your time
Whoever win, we lose.


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Hmm speaking of staff fighting.

Well...Staves aren't exactly known for large variation.

They're essentially a length of stick for hitting people with.

Now admittedly this is where you can do a lot purely with textures, After all a carefully sanded and polished stave (oo err? possible) would have different textures to a big hitting stick picked up off the ground. Sure you can have a fancy metal hitting stick but...a hitting stick is a hitting stick...

Of course judging from what was seen of the leaked animations the Staff fighting could double up as Spear fighting, which honestly does open quite a bit of options, though that style of fighting with a spear is inherently Eastern and even then it's more fantasy than actual battlefield use but hey, this is comic books we're talking about.

European spear fighting consisted of pretty much just planting your feet into the ground, jabbing the guy that was coming at you on horseback with the hope you startled the horse sending the rider flying or killed the horse (both result with a guy on the ground flat on his back/face, which usually resulted in everybody stomping the guy to death) or killed the guy riding it.

However, as mentioned, 'standing there and jabbing' doesn't make for a very good powerset...hell that's one possible animation compared to Eastern (I believe it's the Shaolin monks who use a more free form spear style which stuff seen in Dynasty Warriors is based on but I'm kind of foggy on that) style.

Sorry kind of rambled there.

TLDR version: A hitting stick is a hitting stick, there's only so many ways you can make a hitting stick...but hitting stick + Spear = lots of variety.


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Staff Fighting will (or should, anyway) be generalized to allow for spears and polearms. RL fighting styles certainly aren't similar for the various types, but that's never stopped City of Heroes yet.


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Staff fighting needs a pitchfork.


 

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I'm hoping for a glowing staff of one sort or another- vanguard, celestial, elemental, whatever.
And polearms would rock! I want a pudao (which would look sick in vanguard form).


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I had rather hoped for a more preindustrial mace or hammer among the weapon skins. I've got a Mace/DB Brute based on Mordred who could use an Alternate Universe heroic TW version, but the only mace-type weapons available are all tech. The Minotaur Axe will do in a pinch, but still...

As far as borrowing art for weapons, I can think of a few more: Strongman Hammers, the Nemesis Staff... and doesn't Jack In Irons carry a club? There are also the Greater Elemental swords - those are already weapons, so hopefully not too much work there. I have no idea how difficult resizing or converting these assest might be, but surely they'd be easier that starting from scratch?

As far as splitting up the pack into inherent and Pack weapons... I dunno. I certainly think TW is thin on the options if someone were to ignore the In-Shop versions. Splitting the options and then offering the add-ons as a free option seems strange to me.


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You have no chance to win make your time
All my base are not belong to you.




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You have no chance to win make your time
*popcorn*


 

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Xanatos used to make positive posts about CoX, but then he took an arrow to the knee.


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Xanatos used to make positive posts about CoX, but then he took an arrow to the knee.
Someone's been reading CAD.




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Someone's been reading CAD.
It's a great comic... everyone should read it!

(Also, fixed your post. )



 

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This is why I'm not getting another weapon based Melee Set after TITAN WEAPONS!

This is also why my main Magic Origin Brute is now an ex-Praetorian (now Paragon Hero) Loyalist, Street Justice/ Regeneration Ancient Arabian woman. Yes I plaid for the magic carpet (sigh).


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I would pay extra for a weapons pack sure. That would be a weapons pack with waaaay more options than 4 models for titan weapons which actually were there, most people assumed they would unlockable in game (like every other set...), not that they would be unlockable with money. Sure they free now, but after these two weeks, it won't be free anymore. And just because i can get it for free now, doesn't make it any less of a bad idea.
Theres still no model for Vanguard or Rularuu titan weapons, like there are for most other weapon sets.


Look at the newer weapon sets, Dual Blades and Dual Pistols. They came with waaay more then 6 options and no pack to buy with more models.

Ever since the market came it just seems more and more than they just add stuff and wanna charge for everything and everyone at paragon are walking around with dollar signs in their eyes. Some of the pricing in the market is just mindboggling, its as if they're trying to rip off the customers, just look at the Magic Bolero for the females, 440 points. But buy the whole magic pack its only 400, its like they're baiting people, and the pricing when report was apparently intentional.

I still havn't spent a single euro in the shop aside the free 550 points each month.


 

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If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.

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Necroposting is bad, mm'kay?

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Sorry states, I used Fallout and things got a little messy.

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R. The next powerset that is due for release is staff fighting - you can almost guarantee that there will be extra skins for sale, but they won't be free..
well, one good thing about thread resurrections is they remind us of when posters want to prove how they know the biz better than everyone else...did anyone else buy the staff pack? dont remember which ones were included in that extra pack we were going to have to buy.


 

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Yes I plaid for the magic carpet (sigh).

You for the magic carpet?


What the heck does that even mean?


 

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He means tartan, obviously.


 

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It is money grabbing. The fact it's free for 2 weeks is just a marketing ploy to legitimise a precedent of them doing this in the future.
Wait, so a capitalist enterprise is engaging in profit seeking behavior & utilizeing MARKETING PLOYS to promote their offerings?!?


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well, one good thing about thread resurrections is they remind us of when posters want to prove how they know the biz better than everyone else...did anyone else buy the staff pack? dont remember which ones were included in that extra pack we were going to have to buy.
Actually he's right. Staff came out, and the options were pretty limited. A purchasable Staff Weapons Pack #1 is on Beta right now, which offers four or five new options for Staff Fighting. And it's not free.

The only difference is they waited a few months, probably so people wouldn't rage.