Buy Titan Weapon Pack NOW... for FREE

This decision makes perfect sense to me. Make the weapons pack free and the F2P/Prems that grab it for the cool skins will now want to buy the power set so they can use them.

Don't talk to me.

Guilty as charged.

Me too. I like weapon packs. I want to see many more weapon packs. A weapon for a weapon-based character is arguably as important as the rest of the costume combined, if not more so.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

Paying for "nice-to-haves" seems like the logical way to:

• Justify the creation of more "nice-to-haves"
• Keep the game accessible for those with money troubles
• Keep the game financed and viable

Is someone really complaining that some weapon options are currently free? *facepalm*

This is my concern too, that it sets a precident. Now I will happily pay for extra skins but the tiny amount of models TW comes with on it's own makes it look as if they took some of skins it was meant to come with and bundled them up into a pack to make extra money. I can't say whether this is true or not but there's just something about the timing that leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

If the next weapon set comes with six models and they try to charge extra for another four, we'll know that the bar has been set. And that we can kiss goodbye to releases such as Shield Defence where we got 21 models to choose from.

Somehow I feel that Paragon Studios are still getting a feel for how to run their market and seeing what players will buy and what they won't. I'm not quite 'outraged' as such, but I am watching carefully to see what tricks they try to pull next.

No their complaining that the devs are selling us stuff that we told them we'd gladly pay extra for if they'd just put it on the market.

Damn those dirty devs for listening to their customers and fulfilling their requests and suggestions!

Just out of curiosity, Don't you think it's a little premature for people to get upset and threaten to quit over the number of skins in the pack when we have no idea what the price will be until after the free give away is over?

If you look on the market, individual weapon skins are selling for 60 points each so unless we see this pack marked at more than 240 points they aren't money grabbing. Heck they may even sell the pack slightly cheaper than it would cost to buy the weapon skins individually.

If they do charge more than 240 I'll support the argument that they're overpriced.

Edit: corrected spelling.

As I said, I'm not outraged. But this is the first time we've seen a weapon skins pack for sale and it appears to have come at the expense of the initial selection if TW was purchased alone. And I'm quite happy to concede, as others have said, that these have all been designed from scratch with no existing art assets used. Hence why I'm watching to see how future weapon skin packs are developed. I've never been one to scream and shout on forums, but people can and should still leave their feedback as it will help Paragon to see what goes down well and what doesn't.

Personally, this seems like poor timing by the studio. If TW had gone out with its initial selection and then had the pack added a few months down the line, I don't think we'd see as much disappointment. But the timing and the fact that TW has a tiny amount of options on its own just feels... suspicious shall we say?

Now if Paragon want to start selling weapons packs for existing sets, I'll be overjoyed and will happily pay them. But there's just something about the way this release has been handled that gets my hackles up. I hope future sets won't come with a tiny amount of options just so that the studio can squeeze some more greenbacks out of us later on.

Venting and rage is half the battle. The other half is overblown hyperbole in calling every comment you dislike "Rage" (or hysteria, crying, screaming, etc.).

I don't really care much one way or the other but my understanding is that some people feel that they were given a stripped down set for the "Regular" price just so the remainder could be sold back to them.

Everyone loves analogies!
"Hey, Mr. Burger Man! This burger with large fries is great! Wish I could buy cheese sauce for my fries though..."
"Right ho! From now on, for the same price as before you can get a burger and small fries and for an extra dollar fifty, I'll give you a cup of cheese sauce!"
"..."
"I listened to my customer and fulfilled your request! Hooray!"

No, they're selling a weapon set for 800 pts with several skins already included (About as many as come standard with any weapon power set)...then there's a pack of even more skins. lrn2read?

Welcome to capitalism.

And 'whining', don't forget 'whining'. Dismissing feedback as whining these days seems to have become commonplace on these boards.

The base power set comes with... 4(?) skins. That's less than the other power sets as other have pointed out. Even with the "booster", the options feel a little limited but I think that's a case of each piece being so distinctive that you mentally eliminate most right off the bat.

Actually, there's a bit more to the spectrum.

Venting/Rage/'Whining' occupies one end of the spectrum.
Denouncing said venting/rage/whining occupies the other end of the spectrum.

There exists a vast middle area wherein concerns are voiced without hyperbole and without the need to paint dubious intentions on other board members and on Paragon Studios.

It's a strange territory, of course, because it requires some compromise. I certainly don't envy the folks at Paragon Studios who have to salvage the reasonable suggestions and constructive criticisms from the pro/con knee-jerk feedback that inevitably resides on these forums.

Depends on which set and whether you're counting the tintable and non-tintable versions of some options as separate options.

Well, the problem is that too many people can't give negative feedback without "whining". There's a difference between voicing your negative opinion in a constructive manner and just plain whining. The former is exceedingly rare on the internet.

Six skins. All of which are, as I said earlier in this thread, highly detailed models that require work on the order of an actual unique character more than a mere model of a weapon. I don't like the basic offerings much, but they're undeniably high quality models. In addition, they're high quality models for a set that can't share them with other weapon sets, like Dual Blades could with Broadsword and Katana. That makes them niche assets and so more expensive in terms of production time.

Literally nothing you just wrote contradicted or disagreed with me.

Ironic that you ended it saying "lrn2read".

Ironic you criticise my behavior and come out with stuff like that.

Do us both a favour. Put me on ignore. And stop letting my posts upset you so much.

People can try to sell reasons why you only get six choices but, at the end of the day, it's still only six choices.

It doesn't really bother me but I can see why other people would object to getting six initial skins and the option to buy four more.

Objecting and saying "There should be more" without understanding why there isn't more is...shortsighted, let's say.

Then again, while I can easily imagine why we're short on skins for Titan Weapons, it doesn't really explain why the offerings for Beam Rifle were so paltry, especially since that can share assets with Robotics and Assault Rifle.

But there was more. They just broke them out as a separate purchase.

As others have noted, the "mistake" here may have been offering the booster immediately which makes it look like you're only getting offered half a plate for the basic price.
That and too many people can't read an opinion they don't like without dismissing it as "whining" to make themselves feel better (or try to shame the other guy into silence... or both)

Again, only some of the customers said they'd pay extra for more stuff. A small fraction.

Don't speak for everyone, please.