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Quote:I am NOT the person who started the thread. This is my THIRD time saying that. I KNOW who did and he forwarded the infraction so I could post it here. Can you not read?
Forbin started the thread here. I know who started the thread there. Yet you're here still trying to convince yourself I started the thread. Nice troll attempt.
Hey Storm, Please pass on to your friend that I'm sorry he got modded for something I posted over here. -
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Ya know I hadn't even thought of that, and you're probably right about that being what got the thread nuked. I retract my previous statement that it got nuked because the poster I "quoted" was probably a BW employee.
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Quote:Wow, it only took them an hour to delete that thread. I guess that this Andryah person really is a BW employee and doesn't like being laughed at.Oh sweet! I've been counter quoted on their forums.
I'm cool now.
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=563954
And to add to the humor some of the people responding are making assumptions without bothering to confirm anything that this thread is a TORtanic thread bashing and doomcrying their game.
It also seems (from statements in that thread) that there's a possibility that the person whose post I took a screenshot of is a BW employee. Tho I have no evidence if that is true or not. -
I hope Dink knows how great we think her work is and how much we'll miss it. I hope wherever she has ended up appreciates her.
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Oh sweet! I've been counter quoted on their forums.
I'm cool now.
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=563954
And to add to the humor some of the people responding are making assumptions without bothering to confirm anything that this thread is a TORtanic thread bashing and doomcrying their game.
It also seems (from statements in that thread) that there's a possibility that the person whose post I took a screenshot of is a BW employee. Tho I have no evidence if that is true or not. -
While that is plausible I don't believe it would take them 8 years to do something about it.
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Saw this post on the SW:TOR forums and the absurdity of it made me laugh.
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Sensible f2p restrictions is subjective, especially amongst people making the statements you have. What you are actually saying is that as long as the f2p restrictions don't cause you to spend any money they are sensible and you can deal with them, but if anything causes you to open your wallet, the limits are grossly unfair and the game is gimped into unplayability.
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Just like I predicted. The bakers union spin doctors are denying facts and twisting statements into things that were never said because they can't accept the reality that this particular union carries at least as much guilt as management.
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Quote:If you didn't want to pay a sub fee you could have picked up an LTS, and since you're so certain the game will eventually go f2p you'd be all set to enjoy all the benefits of being a subscriber while still only having to spend as little as possible on microtransactions.I bought this game on release for I think it was something like £40 retail, it's now on sale for a good price in most stores. It was a good game but I didn't really think it was worth the value of what I paid for it + a subscription fee + microtransactions. I will play again once it goes F2P (and believe me it will).
Instead, if the game goes f2p, I predict you'll be one of those people complaining how the f2p restrictions are too draconian and how you think you are entitled to get more because you spent $x amount of money to buy the game when it was still sub based.
What am I basing my prediction on? I'm basing it on observations I've made watching individuals making the exact same "It was a good game but I didn't really think it was worth the value of what I paid for it + a subscription fee + microtransactions. I will play again once it goes F2P" statements before and after CoH, Aion, Lineage II, STO, CO, LOTRO, AoC, SW:TOR, and DCUO all went f2p. -
Quote:Oh you dirty little liar! We all know you buy your tasty pastry sweets from a local independant mom and pop bakery because of your rabid hatred of unions and corporations.Hey I had nothing to do with the loss of Twinkies or them jobs this time, I swear!
You damn near knocked me down last week when I was shopping at the same bakery for the same reasons.
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Quote:Baker's union spin doctor's arriving in thread to deny the facts in 3... 2... 1...They didn't negotiate in good faith. They, the bakers union, ignored the negotiations all summer according to the Teamsters and then after the package was presented, a package that the rest of the unions were involved with, understood where management was coming from and approved, a package that gave the unions seats on the board and 25% ownership, chose to strike and force the company to close.
Some people would rather watch the world burn. -
Quote:No. It's just like George Carlin said.Because:
#1: Republicans underestimate the average person's intelligence.
#2: Democrats overestimate the average person's intelligence.
#3: No one else counts.
Think of how stupid the average person is and then realize that half of them are stupider than that. -
Quote:Just to point out that the Black Lion Chests and the "Halloween" chests (which were just the black lion chests during the christmas period) can be unlocked by keys that drop ingame. Sure they drop like rocking horse poop, but it does happen.
And the *normal* contents of said boxes... nothing really to write home about.
The mini pets are vanity items... non combat (although they can be used in the mystic forge).
The "gamble" boxes and keys to unlock them in STO and CO can also be purchased by converting ingame currency into cash shop credit. That still doesn't stop people in those games from complaining about how unfair it is that they are for sale for real money.
And in SW:TOR the unopened "gamble" boxes, and most of the random items within them once opened, can be traded between players via email or put up for sale on their ingame market and a player doesn't have to spend a dime to get them, but that is conveniently overlooked by the whiners.
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*shrugs* To be fair, if you guys are complaining about this stuff, then most of the arguments (with the exception of the Black Lion chests granted) also apply to City of Heroes.
Quote:Although in Guild Wars favour.. there were no £17 items to purchase
Yes I know STO calls them a three ship pack but in reality it's three copies of the same ship with each carrying different gear that can be stripped off the other two ships and placed on one ship. They even gave the gear the ability to work like our own IO sets so you get better bonuses and abilities if you have them all on one ship. -
Nope.
Quote:It seems they are trying to turn that game into a gear grinder, and setting the stage for a Nexon-style cash shop.
They've had "gamble" boxes right from the start called Black Lion chests, another box that gives random non combat pets, and a third ready to sell just for Halloween.
Quote:Go check out things over on their forums if you get bored. Its another clue as to why COH was shut down, as to the "new direction" NCSoft is going into. -
That alone would immediately shut the game down again. At it's height of popularity this game never could have justified budgeting a multi-million dollar advertising campaign.
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Oh just a quick question for the Harbinger players, I've seen on the SW:TOR forums that Harbinger has been having some server stability issues since the f2p launch. How bad has it really been?
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Quote:You really have no idea why people are upset. Games get shut down. That is a fact of life. However that isn't the reason why people here are upset.I just found out about CoX closing on 11/22. I've been on an extended hiatus due to RL issues. When I logged in yesterday and saw the announcement, I immediately knew why.
Why? It all comes down to money folks...Sure CoX was making money, but ROI is very important...especially to a company(NCSoft) that is at the beginning of a downward spiral.
While CoX may have been making a profit, the return on investment simply must not have been there.
Lets make up some numbers to frame this properly
In other words, if your expenses, are 1,000,000 a month, and that 1 million earns you a revenue of 1,050,000, then you pocket, 50k a month or 5%. But what do you do if you know that the same 1 million invested in something else is going to return you 250k a month? or 25% if it is put somewhere else?
That's why right there...They simply want to put the money somewhere else.
They decided to shut down rather than phase it out...why? Because announcing that they were going to stop development and freeze the game status would have killed the game anyway...probably would immediately drive it to a loss.
People are pissed at the underhanded and disrespectful way NCSoft handled the closure of the game. Blowing smoke up everyones back ends by telling the people at Paragon Studios and us how well everything was doing, providing funding for continued development of content all the while knowing they were going to yank the rug out from everyones feet. Then just a week or two before the release of a brand new issue they call up Paragon Studios and tell them, everyone is fired.
Quote:The next question, is why not sell it? Because, they would continue to own all the intellectual property....forever. This means they own all of your characters, all of your stories and story arcs. They can literally make a movie or comic book on YOUR concept and they get all proceeds. Do you know what all that creativity is worth?
NCSoft bought the IP rights from Cryptic. If NCSoft sold the IP rights to someone else that new person/company would own all the IP of City of Heroes.
NCSoft would not get to keep the characters, stories and story arcs.
Quote:So delete you characters right? I'm sure they have the capability of preventing any sort of permanent data loss. Hell, they probably have all historical data on every character you ever made. Deleted or not deleted.
Quote:Our best hope, our best hope...is that someone like steam or some other service is willing to buy it and keep it active. It would be mildly feasible that all character data is maintained somehow. -
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Quote:This is the funniest part of his entire post seeing as it's coming from someone whose social life is so nonexistant he has nothing more constructive to do than troll the forums of a game he claims to believe sucks because he had a hissyfit about his PvP suggestion being ignored and quit.Wow, kids. When your roller skating rink shuts down an arcade machine, to you cry this much too?
It's games. Games shut down. The fact that you were horrible lifeless addicts who detached from reality and got engrossed in a videogame is your own personal problem.
Smatter Konrad, has the football team been shoving your head into the toilet again?
Did the cheerleaders pants you again and laugh at your shortcomings?
Did you just learn that your children (if you have any) have the mailman's eye's?
Oh btw your PvP suggestion from back in June of 2011 where you suggested that nonPvPers be forced to pay extortion fees to PvP groups that "own" the stores and trains in the districts they "control" was at best idiotic.
Below are excerpts from his long winded suggestion.
Quote:Here, the rules would be simple:
All purchases made in shops of the district, all deals sold/bought on black market - would pay a small % fee to the ruler supergroup. Yes, this means that some districts (ones with tailors) will be more prized territories than districts who don't have many vendors. Competition will be hot there.
Also, to add to this, make ferries and train stations charge a small fee. No more than 100 infamy/information/influence per trip. (hardly noticeable to an average person daily, 100 infamy is nothing), but it builds up from a 1000 people a day using the ferry, and your supergroup just made 100 000 infamy a day. Not bad.
Now, the beauty of this proposed system is that is that it does not FORCE anyone to use it or pvp.
blah blah blah
And again, if you are not, the game can stay the same to you, and you don't have to care who owns what land. As long as you pay your taxes.Quote:If within 3 months there is no progress in group PvP and conquest development, my family is unsubscribing. Cater to the needs of hardcore PvPers or lose them from the playerbase.
No one cared that you threatened to quit last year, but you have brightened our last days here by giving us someone to laugh at.
Sure we may be upset over the game closing but none of us are so pathetic to be still butthurt about a suggestion getting ignored over a year ago, that we feel obligated to make an "I told you so" post.
Thank you for putting a smile on our faces.
Happy Thanksgiving and Merry Christmas as well.