You did NOT just say that? Did you?

This is the very first post I logged onto tonight when I came back after dinner....

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[Chat Channel]Xxxxxxxxx: i know this may be a bit <@*&$@#!>, but again, would like to ask if for the future pocket D would not be used for Trials, place is already laggy enough without people spamming powers. Thank you

You can imagine the responses this guy got in resonse to that. Mine was simply "Oh we are sorry. Is our playing the GAME interferring with your RP? I am sure we are all so ashamed!"

I got back a reduculous reply about there being plenty of other places to form a league. Well yes that's true but not that many that offer the league access to things it needs..


RWZ great place to start a team. access to a store to sell off enhancements and unwanted salvage you get during a trial, a place to buy inspirations to replace ones you used, and even access to crafting tables and you base. PROBLEM everyone realizes that and so many leagues form there the lag in horrible and some of your league members can't even get into the zone your in. You wind up playing music RWZ trying to find one with enough room for the whole group.

Cimerora Not as ideal as RWZ but has a store and a combat nurse. No access to crafting tables or to your base directly. LESS teams use this so its not as laggy but again less access to stuff

The Midnighter Club Seemed like a good idea but has almost no access at all.. You get a store and that's it.. no base access, no tables, and no place to buy inspirations. ALSO very small amount of people fill it.. had people actually have to wait to get in and be assigned to a team because pleayers were traveling through to get to Cimerora to run the ITF

Pocket D not idea again no store but does have access to inspirations. For access to your base or crafting head outside into the neighborhoods. LAGGY? yes but designed to hold a large number of players due to the events that run inside it throughout the year.. Winter event, Valentine's (Spring Event) etc...

Studio 55 better than Pocket D as far as lag but I searched and if there is a bartender selling inspirations he is using the best Invisible I have seen. Between mission people wind up running to the hospital in Imperial City to resupply.

Now I have heard people complaining .."Why don't you all go do that in Galaxy City.. no one is ever there." Gee that sounds great but the trial is Co-op mind telling all of us how the Villains in the league get there?

I have nothing against RPer but a statement like that is rediculous. What's next players suggesting that people stop using the AE building and the sewers in Atlas Park because it is causing lag and disrupting the costume contests? Your standing around at the bar basically typing back and forth to one another while WE are out doing missions and trying to improve our characters. And before the obvious argument gets posted to this thread.. YEAH AND WE PAY OUR MONTHLY FEES TO BE HERE TOO. Last I checked there was no sign on the entrances that said "for RP purposes Only"

Fact is right now dozens of leagues are forming at any moment and they run to any spot they can find where all 24 of them can squeeze in.

Due to the non-constructive nature of recent posts in this thread, the conversation has now come to a close.

To be fair the Rpers on Union in Pocket D (myself included and I run the trials a LOT, usually 7 or more each day since release) just remove broadcast (since most of the chatter is broadcast and League) and I've not once seen a complaint about it in the Union RP channels, not once.

Honestly I can't disagree with any of that. I try to use PocketD2 to form leagues whenever possible since it's normally pretty empty and avoids the annoying aspect of having to switch leagues in the RWZ.

I do feel a bit sorry for the RPers about invading "their" zone so I try to minimize broadcast spam but frankly no matter what zone you do it in you're inconveniencing someone trying to do someone else. Forming in the RWZ causes problems for MS Raiders, forming in Cimeroria makes it harder for other people to put together an ITF. Studio 55 makes that zone laggier for players leveling up new characters. The Midnighter club has the least impact on other players but due to the small zone size isn't really practical for mass league formation.

In any case, the next time you see someone complain about leagues forming in "their" zone suggest they go to this thread and encourage the devs to make a zone for forming leagues in:
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=257531

We could also use Praetoria, couldn't we?

Virtue Catgrrlz r srsbzness

I play on Virtue, I am not shocked at all.

I roleplay. A lot. Often, except on trials on my home server, I'm 100% in character all the time.

One thing I've honestly never understood is why do some roleplayers spend so much time roleplaying their characters as what amounts to little more than barflies?

In this game, I tend to do very little non-combat, non-run-and-gun RP. It's often situational. ie. Why would these disparate characters be teaming up? Can we tweak the story the devs and canon content have given us to fit our characters and motivations?

But were I to stop and plan some 100% non-combat downtime RP, why not go to the sewers amongst the roaches? The docks amongst dockworkers? Or inside city hall? Or atop some building looking out over the city? Or at least inside an SG base? Is it just an eagerness for a nightlife-never-had or already-past that lures some folks to pocket D for hours of that sort of RP? Even if it's romance, I'd think a lovely picnic double date with three other heroes all in civies on the rolling lawns in Praetoria would be more interesting than RPing over and over again in the same dark brooding bar. I've done that already IRL. Bars are awful places to be at closing time--so unless you are trying to play a lush, why do it?

Anyways, /tangential rant

Pocket D's a pretty lousy place to RP, anyway. It really has no future and it's past is mostly unnecessary drama and ERP.

I imagine that guy'd get pissed come Christmas time when folks start asking for BNY runs.

If there RPing do they even need to be in the same zone. And if they did they could go to Camora or where ever. IT's a free game and NO ONE has the right to tell anyone where they can an can not go.

Well...

Pocket D is what it is and it has since the beginning of it's existance been the Rpers Haven, and while I am an RPer at heart, and build back stories for just about every charcacter I make I do not RP all of them.

Since we all know that Pocket D was always the Rpers Haven, what did you expect to hear when you entered. Especially on virtue?

I mean, it was to my knowlege always the RP zone or made that way, and it pretty much has all of the concepts of an RP zone, and the development team has pretty much alway kept it or advertized it that way, so for the RP community to voice their dislike of using it as a trial set up zone does not baffle me at all.

It baffles me that others who know this (And you all do) would think that it would be odd that it would happen.

1) Midnighters Club. This could have been and should have been developed more. It's an arc, and an interesting concept of joining a secret society. The Red side version is a million times better mind you than the blue side version and thats half of the issue right there, but it needs more love other than the fact that it allows you into Cim.

2) RWZ, In my oppinion is where Trials should be formed as it is a Coop zone, and always came across that way, as it's been advertized.

So at the risk of sounding like an RP carebear, which Im not really, I can empathize with the Pok-D group because it's the one place thats been anchored as the RP zone, and it makes perfect sense that they are annoyed.

PVP people get annoyed when PVP content is not added, changed, expanded or PVP becomes dead.

End Game complainers got End Game content now and even if not liked by all, it's there for them.

RPers get one zone they call their own, which we all recognize, and a handfull of new emotes here and there to pacify them, so if they are complaining about having their zone raided for raids, then I don't see why someone would post this thread.

You knew someone would complain...why make a production out of it.

Unless you are RPing that you didn't know this would happen. Then my argument falls apart.

Solution

Build a Trial zone.

Fort Trident has a sub in it.

Make a base. Copy Fort Trident. Make it a trial zone by adding a vendor and access to both sides. Add the Hero merit dude and voila. Problem solved.

No one gets butt hurt and we all smile and nod and let people play the game.

To be fair, based on that quote you shared, the person said/suggested it very nicely. To them, it was worth a shot. And isn't unreasonable (except to expect people to oblige).

I'm a role-player and generally look to RP my character at all times while logged in.
However, I am not a Pocket D role-player. Never have been. None of my characters are bar/club types (well, maybe a few).
I wouldn't mind a diner and/or doughnut shop...

Anyway, all that said... I can't say I blame anyone for using anywhere to form the leagues. Nor do I have any problems with it (unless it was my bedroom... or maybe Dark Astoria... that'd be lame, hehe).

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Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood ...frankly no matter what zone you do it in you're inconveniencing someone trying to do someone else. ...

You still have Pocket D on the brain...

Solution, live with nonrpers in player designated RP only zone.

Virtue has been known to spawn a second Pocket D on a weekday night, just from all the people RPing in it. I've already seen leagues having to jump from D to D, trying to get everyone in the same instance, just like they have to in other zones.

As to why do people RP in the D? It's actually for the same reason people form leagues there. It's a Co-Op zone that's easy to get to, and has much less lag than the War Zone. It's not ideal for all the RP that goes on there, but to interact with people on the other side, it's the best choice we have.

RP should be all around the place... not stuck to one zone. Like mentioned before.. the Midnighters club... the Monkey Bar?... etc. There is no reason to always gather in Pocket D for RP unless you are looking for people who frequent the bar or for contacts you never met before.

I know my main is rather in her base or at the Midnighters Club then at the bar... even though she likes to party once in a while.

I dont see Pocket D as a RP only zone. It is a zone that was the original co-op zone. And therefore used for all co-op arcs and events. That is why Pocket D was build. And the RP is an extra.

Anyway... Live and endure each other. It is not as hard as you think to play this game both ways and still not hate the other person. Shut off broadcast and if you are rp-ing at the bar and you have lag... blame the alcohol.

Whilst RP'ing does interest me to a degree. I have never tried it (yet). But I would have thought that from a RP perspective 'Local chat' would have been used much more than broadcast.As it has a maximum radius, so why would someone 2 miles away, hear what I was saying to someone 6 feet away?

I have always thought that the D is used as it is a more central cross over point for all factions.

It would seem that sometimes no matter what you do or where you do it, someone won't like it.