You did NOT just say that? Did you?
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Posted on: 2011-04-12 16:58 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Agreed.|
Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
As I pointed out to Sam that works both ways. It's just as rude for RPer's to ask Trial launchers to leave a zone as it is for the Trial Launchers to ask the RPer's to leave the zone.
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The best way to handle it is 1) put anyone like that on ignore if annoys you and 2) moving yourself to another zone, at least until the devs implement suppression.
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The only problem would be to the griefers that enjoy disrupting things. They'll argue that it takes too much time to activate their powers once they leave the "D".
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Originally Posted by CactusBrawler
That's what was posted in the first post. Some one complaining about not arranging trials in Pocket D because it was lagging the place up.
If every Tom, Dick and Sally isn't firing off their powers to fight the boredom of waiting for their league to fill, there wouldn't be any problem would there? |
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"Don't be dense" Did you even read what I replied to?|
Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Don't be dense. They don't ban people for refusing to leave a zone they ban them for their misconduct while in the zone. Every MMO bans ***holes that are too stupid to know when to quit.
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If someone asked me to leave a zone I would respond with "make me" with witch CactusBrawler said in other games I would get banned for that.
So......
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And THIS. I've never seen Pocket D as being a RP area. I think the area in Atlas park where costume contests are constantly held is more an RP area.
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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
The Chalet should be open all year round. This way, except for 3 weeks out of the year, RPers have place to go that's out of the way.
The Pocket D would seem to be a 'RP area' if it wasn't made into an amenity-heavy zone with missions. But as long it has an Arena, personal Vault, co-op hub-ness, Valentine missions, base portal and beacon, insp vendors, tailor, etc... it *can not* be considered a 'RP-designated' area, officially or unofficially. Pocket D itself is role-played by its design into a game-mechanics heavy zone. That being said, the RWZ is a better zone for starting Trials. It has more amenities and probably a larger population cap. False reasoning. That is true of any zone that becomes a de facto staging area for iTrials. I've seen that happen to Midnighter Club which has mostly been given up on as a staging ground for that reason. |
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
The only problem would be to the griefers that enjoy disrupting things. They'll argue that it takes too much time to activate their powers once they leave the "D".
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If you aren't having a two or three minute set up period where the 'leader' of the trial tells each team what they are doing, and people check what team they are actually in, then you are 'Doing it wrong!'
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Correct. However, thats not what was stated in the OP.|
Originally Posted by Aura_Familia
That's . . . NOT the tone I'm getting from this thread. What I'm getting and what someone actually said, is that since the RPers were in Pocket D first, they claim the exclusive right to keep using it.
Which to me is ******* asinine. |
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| [Chat Channel]Xxxxxxxxx: i know this may be a bit <@*&$@#!>, but again, would like to ask if for the future pocket D would not be used for Trials, place is already laggy enough without people spamming powers. Thank you |
I can pretty much guarentee the same would not be the true if situations were reveresed.
So, sure, it might not be 'right' for someone to ask that. But nor is it right for others to then slag them off because of a civil request.
Two wrongs don't make a right, after all.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
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Someone needs to read posts more carefully, and work out what smilies are for.
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Originally Posted by Aura_Familia
That's . . . NOT the tone I'm getting from this thread. What I'm getting and what someone actually said, is that since the RPers were in Pocket D first, they claim the exclusive right to keep using it.
Which to me is ******* asinine. |
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Ehhhh, I'd rather have the leader tell the trial exactly what is going on, as some folks still have never done these trials.
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Originally Posted by CactusBrawler
If you aren't having a two or three minute set up period where the 'leader' of the trial tells each team what they are doing, and people check what team they are actually in, then you are 'Doing it wrong!'
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You're correct. As I stated I wouldn't have responded at all. I would have simply put the person on ignore and continued with my trial.
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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
Correct. However, thats not what was stated in the OP.
So, the asker realised it might be taken as being a tad assinine, but was respectful enough to word it nicely and say thank you. I can pretty much guarentee the same would not be the true if situations were reveresed. So, sure, it might not be 'right' for someone to ask that. But nor is it right for others to then slag them off because of a civil request. Two wrongs don't make a right, after all. |
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What one finds funny others may not. /shrug.|
Originally Posted by FloatingFatMan
Someone needs to read posts more carefully, and work out what smilies are for.
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EDIT: I've said my piece and am bowing out. Better to not getting heated over something so silly.
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Originally Posted by Aura_Familia
Ehhhh, I'd rather have the leader tell the trial exactly what is going on, as some folks still have never done these trials.
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You missed where I was replying to a post that griefers would complain it takes too long to re toggle?
And the whole, if your league isn't having things explained to them, then you're doing it wrong thing?
And that even the most trollalicous troll from under the biggest bridge ever, could retoggle during the double checking that people get what they are about to do?
Pretty sure the first stage of each of the Trials isn't timed after all.
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Hence the presence and purpose of the smiley, to inform people of the intent.
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Originally Posted by Aura_Familia
What one finds funny others may not. /shrug.
EDIT: I've said my piece and am bowing out. Better to not getting heated over something so silly. |
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Yes I did. You dismissed the fact that other MMO's have rules set up for specific servers where certain types of player behavior isn't tolerated and could get a player suspended/banned.|
Originally Posted by Lucky666
"Don't be dense" Did you even read what I replied to?
If someone asked me to leave a zone I would respond with "make me" with witch CactusBrawler said in other games I would get banned for that. So...... |
Just like you are trying to dismiss the fact that what gets people banned isn't simply refusing to leave, it's their misconduct before and after them being asked to leave that gets them banned.
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Not sure if you're being sarcastic but if not I'll point out that a person doesn't need his toggles on to do all of that. |
Originally Posted by CactusBrawler
If you aren't having a two or three minute set up period where the 'leader' of the trial tells each team what they are doing, and people check what team they are actually in, then you are 'Doing it wrong!'
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My bad I see you were being sarcastic.
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Originally Posted by CactusBrawler
You missed where I was replying to a post that griefers would complain it takes too long to re toggle?
And the whole, if your league isn't having things explained to them, then you're doing it wrong thing? And that even the most trollalicous troll from under the biggest bridge ever, could retoggle during the double checking that people get what they are about to do? Pretty sure the first stage of each of the Trials isn't timed after all. |
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Not sure if you're being sarcastic but if not I'll point out that a person doesn't need his toggles on to do all of that.
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Think you're grabbing the wrong end of the stick.
While Captain Awesome is explaining the plan, Fancy Dan (the fancy toggle man) can retoggle, without it taking 'too long'.
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
My bad I see you were being sarcastic.
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Not entirely sarcastic, you should check, just because you were on Team 2 who are supposed to cover the north during the prisoner escape stage, before the cut scene of boobalicousness, doesn't mean you will be post cut scene, if some one forgot to lock the teams, you might be on Team 1 in the south or Team 3 covering exits.
After all it's an extra merit/4 shards if you ace that bit.
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Why are you bringing up stuff I never even mentioned? I was replying to someone that said I could get banned for not leaving a zone cause they said/asked me to leave. I know misconduct gets people banned I've gotten d-bags in pvp zones banned for crude language. Misconduct does NOT include not leaving a zone when rpers whine about it. |
Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Yes I did. You dismissed the fact that other MMO's have rules set up for specific servers where certain types of player behavior isn't tolerated and could get a player suspended/banned.
Just like you are trying to dismiss the fact that what gets people banned isn't simply refusing to leave, it's their misconduct before and after them being asked to leave that gets them banned. |
Maybe read more so you know what excatly your responding to.
Oh and I dismissed it cause I don't care about other games or their lame rules.
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That's possible. I'm looking at this from the perspective of the excuses I've seen given over the years by players that refuse to turn off their toggles in places where active toggles are unnecessary and they know it causes serious lag issues for other players.
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Originally Posted by CactusBrawler
Think you're grabbing the wrong end of the stick.
While Captain Awesome is explaining the plan, Fancy Dan (the fancy toggle man) can retoggle, without it taking 'too long'. |
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
That's possible. I'm looking at this from the perspective of the excuses I've seen given over the years by players that refuse to turn off their toggles in places where active toggles are unnecessary and they know it causes serious lag issues for other players.
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That's why I say **** 'em and have power suppression on in D's.
So what if it stops Demonguy Hugezor /e demonstrating his might skills by making the sky rain flaming blood <Click Rain of fire>, it'll save the zone being a lag fiesta.
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People don't get asked to leave unless they are acting like a D-bags in the first place. What you casually dismiss as whining only happens when D-baggery occurs. RPers don't "stand at the door" screening people to see if they are going to RP or not. You can log in and as long as you behave you'll be left alone. You don't have to RP with anyone.
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Originally Posted by Lucky666
Why are you bringing up stuff I never even mentioned? I was replying to someone that said I could get banned for not leaving a zone cause they said/asked me to leave. I know misconduct gets people banned I've gotten d-bags in pvp zones banned for crude language. Misconduct does NOT include not leaving a zone when rpers whine about it.
Maybe read more so you know what excatly your responding to. Oh and I dismissed it cause I don't care about other games or their lame rules. |
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Yeah but power suppression doesn't have to be all or nothing.
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Originally Posted by CactusBrawler
That's why I say **** 'em and have power suppression on in D's.
So what if it stops Demonguy Hugezor /e demonstrating his might skills by making the sky rain flaming blood <Click Rain of fire>, it'll save the zone being a lag fiesta. |
I find this humorous. "I want to RP... as long as there are no outside influences to affect my RP, which could enable me to react to the situation in an in-character sort of way. I want a very tightly controlled environment in which to RP. I'd like everyone to stand in a designated space, recite lines that I have specifically laid out, and not bring any random elements into this little space I have designated that might disrupt my elaborately staged reality."
Isn't RP, um, playing a role? Don't people react to the circumstances in which they find themselves?
So what you're looking for is the absence of any RP; instead, you'd like a set piece performance, which others are free to watch. Kudos! I'll be over here, not participating in that in any way.
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Yeah I've run into a few people who are that anal and controlling about what happens during their idea of what "RP" is and I usually avoid them after that. |
Originally Posted by galadiman
I find this humorous. "I want to RP... as long as there are no outside influences to affect my RP, which could enable me to react to the situation in an in-character sort of way. I want a very tightly controlled environment in which to RP. I'd like everyone to stand in a designated space, recite lines that I have specifically laid out, and not bring any random elements into this little space I have designated that might disrupt my elaborately staged reality."
Isn't RP, um, playing a role? Don't people react to the circumstances in which they find themselves? So what you're looking for is the absence of any RP; instead, you'd like a set piece performance, which others are free to watch. Kudos! I'll be over here, not participating in that in any way. |
I will comment that there's is a difference between choosing not to participate and actively being disruptive.
The Chalet should be open all year round. This way, except for 3 weeks out of the year, RPers have place to go that's out of the way.
The Pocket D would seem to be a 'RP area' if it wasn't made into an amenity-heavy zone with missions. But as long it has an Arena, personal Vault, co-op hub-ness, Valentine missions, base portal and beacon, insp vendors, tailor, etc... it *can not* be considered a 'RP-designated' area, officially or unofficially. Pocket D itself is role-played by its design into a game-mechanics heavy zone.
That being said, the RWZ is a better zone for starting Trials. It has more amenities and probably a larger population cap.
That is true of any zone that becomes a de facto staging area for iTrials. I've seen that happen to Midnighter Club which has mostly been given up on as a staging ground for that reason.
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