Would You Be Willing to Delay the Lore Slot to Change the Pets?
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Posted on: 2011-03-02 22:56 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Originally Posted by MentalMaden
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The powers themselves look cool though.
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| It seems that as the Well is empowering Tyrant, and Tyrant is passing that power onto his armies, a shadow/reflection of these Incarnate-empowered enemies returns to the Well once they're defeated. |
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Originally Posted by Oedipus_Tex
I have no experience with the Lore slot directly, but if there is truth to the claim that it grants us Praetorian pets, it would be worth the wait to me to change it.
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Not going to happen.
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Don't forget that Tyrant's armies are the only Incarnate enemies we've fought so far - Tyrant might form alliances with other known and unknown factions in the multiverse, who he'd then empower via the Well - so there might be other pet options further down the line.
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Originally Posted by Genesis Man
Yeah, I guess that makes a certain kind of sense. Sadly, the implementation is forever going to make me think of what they should have done instead (the sidekick NPC). Imbuing some of your own power onto a tag-along NPC of your own design? Yeah... I know that's harder to do, by a long shot. So. Close (in mah head).
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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
Oh, this thread is rich.
The Alpha Slot was delayed because there was no 'story' tied to the mechanic. Now people want the Lore Slot delayed because there *is* a 'story' tied to the mechanic. Let me lock you in the room with the folks that delayed the Alpha Slot so you all can fight each other over it. And boo hoo. Some of you don't like the story. Too bad. Like there was going to be any story you all would like. And GBE's point is absolutely true. No matter which set of pets were chosen, they're be players whining it didn't include what they want. So, hold up Lore until their pet pets are included! How about... make them customizable! Um... yeah. If they had that tech available, don't you think they would first apply it to... I don't know... MASTERMINDS?! So, no. Delaying Lore for unreasonable expectations and a no-win scenario would be a colossal mistake. |
Stating that you are disappointed in a game development is not the same as "whining." I understand why you might see it as such, but IMO the statement "If you want to change this, I'm willing to wait" is the furthest possible thing from whining. It's a statement of fact. If they don't change it, I'm not going to lash out and post something like... well, like what I'm quoting above.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Because the pets are not "real" pets - they're the essence of defeated Incarnate-empowered enemies that you draw from the Well, so only Incarnate-empowered enemies would be available to you - and so far, the only Incarnate-empowered enemies we've fought have been the Praetorians.
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It is weak and doesn't solve any of my general dissatisfaction, but it is an explanation that loosely hangs together. Thank you.
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I wouldn't bet on it. Not for a few years at least. There is a lot of symmetry in the current design as it is unfolding. 4 identically shaped trees per slot. Very similar multipliers of advancement along those trees. Etc. What I've read from the zip full of screenshots, it all appears balanced in terms of game mechanics.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Don't forget that Tyrant's armies are the only Incarnate enemies we've fought so far - Tyrant might form alliances with other known and unknown factions in the multiverse, who he'd then empower via the Well - so there might be other pet options further down the line.
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Regarding the OP's question...
Short answer: No.
Long answer: i'm not exactly enthused about the Lore Slot pets being Praetorians, but still no.
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Great, all of our characters get to be necromancers.| Because the pets are not "real" pets - they're the essence of defeated Incarnate-empowered enemies that you draw from the Well |
Why does ANYONE think this is a good idea?
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Originally Posted by Venture
Great, all of our characters get to be necromancers.
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If the delay brings an expanded variety to select from (Arachnos, Longbow, Malta, Midnighters, CoT, Overseers/Storm Elementals, Vanguard, Cimerorans, etcÂ…), then Yes, feel free to delay the Lore slot.
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Shouldn't they rename Lore to Super Necromancy then? Incarnate Necromancy? Or maybe even Incarnecromancy?
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Originally Posted by Venture
Great, all of our characters get to be necromancers.
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Originally Posted by Oedipus_Tex
Would You Be Willing to Delay the Lore Slot to Change the Pets?
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so "No."
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And how does a robot have an "essence?" These are programmed robots, not sentient AIs.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
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Having had more time to think about it.
Well I can make the concept of the lore pets fit my character, her father is a Mad Scientist after all and it makes sense that he would give her his most dangerous equipment to test (being an Invuln/SS tanker and all).
If the pets have the shimmer effect like the Shadow Shard Mirrors I can simply have her equipped with a 'Holographic projection belt' or have them as reprogrammed clockwork he stole from Praetoria.
Even though I would like to see some to fit other themes, like Demons, Imps, Elves, Minotaur, Cyclops, Satyr, etc, I would not want it delayed. All they would have to to, is make they pets customizable via the Tailor.
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Originally Posted by AzureSkyCiel
Well, in the Fate/Stay Night and Nasuverse (look it up and try not to tear out your hair in frustration), machines can be summoned as heroic spirits and I think it was mentioned that it's all about Akashic concepts.
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So what, it's incompatible with any AT that came out before 2009?
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I do not want it delayed, I don't think they can replace it with anything that would be "better" in a reasonable amount of time.
I do, however, feel the Devs made a mistake here, and I hope they're learning from it.
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