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Didn't say I didn't want it . Just saying it was a different beast than the Incarnate abilities we did get .

The level scaling I believe happens constantly throughout the trial, not just a check point. So Tyrant shouldn't have been 'set at level 24'. From the look of things, slow popping wells can be an impact, but coupled with the level shift bug, it becomes far more problematic.

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I fully anticipate someone correcting me here .

Only thing that really comes to mind is the Alpha-slot mission, which is a very different beast [Radial FREEEM!] than what we should be getting.

As a /Traps mm, my debuffs actually come from pet summons as well.

Well, except for Poison Trap [which is certainly nice].

That said, I was just in a 16 man group which was productive even with me running around with my initial blast [I can still take out lights].

So my perspective has changed a bit in that regards. Still I'd enjoy it more when the bug is fixed. Also, Tyrant goes down fast when the lights are working properly. So it's not really even that long of the trial, but I suspect there may be a need to re-evaluate the trial with the bug fixed.

I'm on the other end myself, primarily playing my MM again, and I don't want to do Magi because of being more of a liability. That said, I agree, it shouldn't be a problem for much longer, Hawk checked in a fix, which means it's just waiting on the QA cycles.

Wouldn't that be to facilitate the league-size scaling?

I suspect it may have been intentionally designed in a manner to allow for farming, so folks who do not like incarnate trials can actually get their carrot without having to commit too much to actually doing an iTrial.

Could also just be one of the guys whose willing to lead [big star is scary] doesn't like MMs [or stalkers, or whatever the flava of the fail is this month] and thus it occurs implicitly.

Something else to consider, which is something that was occurring during the buggier times of first wave of iTrials was that the leaders would tend to only recruit one or two MMs at most because of the lag issue. I can see similar issues cropping up here.

Ya, a lot of folks really won't care. And most really won't, but I can certainly understand folks wanting to reduce that impact.

I suspect there's a perception that if the trial isn't being farmed like BAF/LAM then it's not popular.

Think a part of it is that the weapon models aren't simple weapon models. TW could certainly use more simple weapon models though, certainly.

Just to repeat something from the beta forums. Not sure how accurate it is now though. So folks know what the deal is .

Mostly accurate, except I do want to point out, that usually during any given LRSF, there are about 7 Nuclear[edit: This should probably say Chemical, but same deal ] Weapons being launched at Paragon City at the same time.

Just to chime in with some data from the Coffee Talk summary of panels. With converters it isn't supposed to be possible that you get the same enhancement back.

So, since they also claim to "love" the game, you think they should scrap it?

Nah, you just institute a flexible reality.

Every individual player is the Head Dorko of the Freedom Phalanx.

It's just a case of allowing the disconnect to occur and moving on. Similar to how every one who has gone through the RWZ arcs are the ones rescued Decker.

That is a tad different though. At the very least, your character became a villain. Sure, you were forced to become a villain [at least mechanically]. But it is slightly different.

Ya, it's a tricky balance. It's even trickier to balance after the fact that one of the avenues exists.

It needs to have a progression rate that feels meaningful to the audience.

I think there is good potential for the iTrials to still generally be a better option with the newer trials giving E-Merits on every run, as well as the 'longer' trials giving guaranteed Rare+. It's something that'll have to be tested and probably watched after it goes live in case re-evaluation is necessary.

I think it's more because folks had an apathy towards most of the low level story arcs. Whether that apathy was because of running through them so often, being frustrated at trying to travel at certain level ranges, or just wanting to get to 50 so they 'could start the real game'.

I know personally, leveling a character through to the ~40 is a drain on my willpower, and often why my alts don't get that far. I just don't like repeating the low level content that much. I can easily get to 10 now with the new missions [yay for me :x], then grind through sewer trials.

I think it's more a case that the Incarnate system was designed to address the lack of an endgame/raid structure first. The lack of such system was a oft cited reason [if perhaps not entirely accurate] for folks disappointment when leaving the game.

Less social manipulation, more they wanted to deliver a feature they felt the player-base [including former players and potential players] wanted.

The issue being that similar concerns/issues cropped up wrt to the Shard currency. They were obtainable solo. They were just significantly slower solo. And folks felt it wasn't really viable. With this system being more of a group method that can be completed solo, I imagine the same concerns will crop up. Given the rates 'should' be balanced against fast groups, not necessarily what would be tolerable to a soloist.

Very true. And especially with Lam, it's really just a case of letting you take two 'small groups' in, as opposed to having one large group [with how the trial is setup].

TPN I know doesn't.
MoM may, I'm not sure, I want to say it's a 2 group trial, but I don't know.

Also, want to clarify that I don't think that the # being off detracts meaningfully from Chyll's point. There's a fair bit of difference between a small group and even a full group.

Although to be fair, the smaller Incarnate Trials can be done with 8.

Thank you .

Iago I think is the finest example.

Sure, Othello is the title character, but Iago is the role you want to shine.