Harrassment during RP


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I grant you 5 points for evoking memories of the old BBS days. Just imagine a text based CoH MUD.......
Wasn't that one of the April Fools Day jokes?


 

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Edit: My bad, different idiot this time.


 

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That's probably true, but you have to admit, some of those mis-tells are EPIC.
They can fuel the rumor mill for months after.

I'll never forget the one where an MM was describing how she used her robots' "attachments" on her partner... I'm sorry, but there's just some places high speed rotory action should NOT be applied.

And that one was dropped in broadcast, too.
Heh, well each to their own I always say myself. But you are quite right about fuel for the rumor mill.


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Originally Posted by Dr_Mechano View Post
Edit: My bad, different idiot this time.
Maybe, just maybe... it IS the same idiot! Only the idiot isn't actually an idiot, it's an alien invader like in that movie, 'The Hidden', and it's possessing random players and making them throw snowballs are RPers!

It COULD happen!

Or, well, they could RP it that way...


 

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If you like Nash, you should look up some lesser known but still interesting work with population drift in iterated games of prisoners dilemma. Rick Riolo's work in particular comes to mind.
I'm not directly familiar with Riolo (or maybe I just forgot him), but I am familiar with the research surrounding prisoner's dilema strategies, aka "tit for tat." It was a million years ago, but I believe I became aware of tit for tat around the same time I became interested in Core War (I probably first became aware of both around 1984 via articles in Scientific American).

The prisoner's dilema's contests are another line of research that suggests there is no inevitable specific evolutionarily derived biological imperative to be a jerk-wad.


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This is almost impossible though. Someone will ALWAYS feel that they need to laugh at or talk down to the person and tell them how pathetic they are. Unfortunately, that's exactly what they want you to do, and ensures they won't leave you alone. As soon as someone feels they need to "put them in their place" by telling them how sad they are, the griefer gets the okay to proceed.
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Then you just need to make sure it isn't you. They'll go where they get their cookie from, and if it's not from you, they'll get bored and move along to someone who will oblige them.
Like the joke about the two guys facing a bear and one starts lacing his sneakers.
"What are you doing? You can't outrun a bear."
"I don't have to outrun the bear; I just have to outrun you."


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Like the joke about the two guys facing a bear and one starts lacing his sneakers.
"What are you doing? You can't outrun a bear."
"I don't have to outrun the bear; I just have to outrun you."
The trick is to tie the other guy's laces together.


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Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.

 

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False. It worked on FIDONet, and it worked on USENET, and it'll work here.
Obviously you never heard of what happened to alt.pizza.delivery.drivers, the well planned shenanigans of those who frequented alt.fan.karl-malden.nose, or the legends surrounding alt.syntax.tactical.


 

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Going back to the OP's post... I've not read most of the thread as it seemed to be just arguing about who's taking offence at Westley... Anyway.. I was in the chalet that night and was also getting irritated by that stone tank... It got even worse when he dropped an Orob portal right in the middle of a group of people; at least one got caught by the thing. I also petitioned him (and I know many others did), and begged them to send a GM to sort it out.

They did. 5 mins later there were TWO GM's in Pocket D, and the "tool" vanished. A buddy of his a little later said that he'd been banned. Not sure if I actually believe that or not, but if it's true.. HA!

So, yay for the GM's. Thank you very much for resolving the problem!


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Going back to the OP's post... I've not read most of the thread as it seemed to be just arguing about who's taking offence at Westley... Anyway.. I was in the chalet that night and was also getting irritated by that stone tank... It got even worse when he dropped an Orob portal right in the middle of a group of people; at least one got caught by the thing. I also petitioned him (and I know many others did), and begged them to send a GM to sort it out.

They did. 5 mins later there were TWO GM's in Pocket D, and the "tool" vanished. A buddy of his a little later said that he'd been banned. Not sure if I actually believe that or not, but if it's true.. HA!

So, yay for the GM's. Thank you very much for resolving the problem!
Hoorah!

This is probably the first post I've seen from FFM in months and it brought good news


 

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The prisoner's dilema's contests are another line of research that suggests there is no inevitable specific evolutionarily derived biological imperative to be a jerk-wad.
lol, as much as I like the way you put that, I would have to say that life in general tends to be a bit more complex than the scoring system that the prisoner's dilemma game would imply.


 

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Hoorah!

This is probably the first post I've seen from FFM in months and it brought good news
Aye, I've not been posting much lately... Kind having a break and stuff... I'm in game once in a while for a little RP, but otherwise... Just biding my time until GR...


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Aye, I've not been posting much lately... Kind having a break and stuff... I'm in game once in a while for a little RP, but otherwise... Just biding my time until GR...
That's my plan for after Christmas, I sorta need a break. Got Tekken 6 L4D2 and hopefully a couple others to bide me over for some time


 

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I grant you 5 points for evoking memories of the old BBS days. Just imagine a text based CoH MUD.......
I was a BBS Sysop!


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This is over the top mental slavery.

 

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Originally Posted by Ironblade View Post
Like the joke about the two guys facing a bear and one starts lacing his sneakers.
"What are you doing? You can't outrun a bear."
"I don't have to outrun the bear; I just have to outrun you."
Yup. The difference is, everyone CAN outrun the bear. There's just bound to be some guy who wants to give the bear a good talking to first.


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This is over the top mental slavery.

 

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Originally Posted by Westley View Post
Offense is created by the offended, not the offender. If nothing upsets or offends you, then guess what? Nobody has that power over you, and you lead a much happier life.

People GIVE others the power to hurt them. If someone is hurting you with words... simply take that power away from them. Give their words no weight or meaning. There, problem solved and you end up with an idiot that's ranting and raving his head off to no effect, wasting HIS time instead of yours.
So, sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me?

That isn't true. The only way that it could possibly be true would be if I could turn off my feelings on command. But I can't, and I don't think that most other people can either. If I could turn off my feelings so that words didn't have power over me, then I could also turn off my feelings so that when someone dies, I wouldn't have to feel sad.

Words are symbols that we use to share our thoughts and feelings with others. If words didn't convey feelings, then we couldn't easily share them. Most people care what other people think of them, and caring is what makes people vulnerable to the words of other people.

If words didn't have power, then no one would ever speak an insult or a slur. Insults and slurs exist in the language. Those kind of words are intended to hurt, that is their purpose. Words can uplift and inspire as well as injure and demean. Words do have power.

The other thing that bothers me about the quoted statement, is the implication that it is the listener's fault if the words hurt. This isn't true either. If a word is spoken with the intent to injure someone, it is the fault of the speaker, not the listener. The speaker had choice. The listener cannot unhear a word. Volition and intent are what marks the speaker as the offender. It really doesn't matter if the listener took offense or not.

It is possible for misunderstandings to occur, for a listener to take offense where none was intended. Language isn't perfect.

I am only objecting to the statement I quoted above. I doubt 'lolrp' was intended to injure. It looked to me like a flippant thoughtless comment. I wouldn't have commented on the quoted bit either, except that I saw a couple of posts applauding it. I felt inspired to disagree.


 

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Originally Posted by Mr_Hellcat View Post
If anything, I was half tempted to ask if people's powers or emotes were bothering you or disrupting your roleplaying because you need to do it in local and use the emotes for the visual cues. Had you said yes, then I would've been half tempted again to say you're quite honestly not doing a good enough job putting forth the literary imagery through your roleplaying. Or as they say on the intrawebs, "YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG."
They are loud, flashy and irritating?

It'd be some what like having some one flash their car lights through the window, while honking their horn loudly, while you are playing [Insert PnP RP Game OF Choice Here].


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A couple of thoughts:

It always amuses (read: disgusts) me that the people who are out to break the rules expect to be sheltered by the rules. From the people who use the banner of RP to shield their intent to harrass, to criminals who attempt to use the legal limitations placed on officers of the law to shelter their criminal activities.

A corollary of this is that people often take freedom (whether 'of speech' or 'as thou wilt') to effectively mean freedom for me and me only, with everyone else constrained by the rules (unless acting in my benefit). Not always but quite often, they will say or do something intended to offend, then protest the 'freedom' of others to remove them from their presence or otherwise curtail them.


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lol, as much as I like the way you put that, I would have to say that life in general tends to be a bit more complex than the scoring system that the prisoner's dilemma game would imply.
I just said it proves its not inevitable, not that it isn't more common than desirable.


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Lookit me imma get ignored!


Idea: Lets cut the LOL out of our diet, its making everyone sick and irritable.

Idea: lets get some new base editing tools..in our... uh.. diet... because... yeah...

....sounded better in my head.


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Originally Posted by CactusBrawler View Post
They are loud, flashy and irritating?

It'd be some what like having some one flash their car lights through the window, while honking their horn loudly, while you are playing [Insert PnP RP Game OF Choice Here].
First, a prerequisite "people play the game with the sound on?! :O"

Second, your metaphor doesn't really make too much sense given the nature of the game. A more apt one would be "it'd be like having someone flash their car lights while honking their horn loudly, while you've stopped in the middle of a busy parking lot before actually parking to play [Insert PnP RP Game OF Choice Here]."

I mean.. the only powers turned off in Pocket D are teleporting powers. Heck, I'd even say the Ski Chalet area almost requires power usage given the attractions.


 

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First, a prerequisite "people play the game with the sound on?! :O"
Of course - it doesn't feel right without it on


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I was a BBS Sysop!
Everyone and their cat was a Sysop.
Well, maybe not all the cats, but I was too.
And I was one of the first in the crowd to have a 2400 baud modem.

Let me 'splain. That basically means it communicated at 2400 bits per second over a phone line. If you have a connection like Verizon FIOS, you might have 10 or more Mbps (megabits, or millions of bits, per second). So basically, I was using two cups and a string.


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I mean.. the only powers turned off in Pocket D are teleporting powers. Heck, I'd even say the Ski Chalet area almost requires power usage given the attractions.
And Teleport is only suppressed in the club itself to keep people from gatecrashing the VIP Room. It works fine by the chalet.


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