I keep foiling AE teams

Aye...the 54 boss farms are more of a challenge, even solo, than the Roman wall farming. Considering the troops on the walls are at most +2 and that it's rare for those groups to contain a boss, normally it's 1-2 lts and the rest minions.

It's a damn sight easier to solo than a boss farm as is behemoth farming or Nemesis farming.

Yet we only here complaints about the AE farming which has significantly more risk to less reward ratio than any of the above infact the above. In a 20 minute roman wall farm I normally walk away with 3 rare magic salvage, a couple of recipes, some of which may or may not sell for lots of inf and the chance for a purple recipe drop, which can't be gotten any other way than playing non-AE content. In one AE map the most you can get is 1500 tickets, which is enough to roll 2 rare salvage and a couple of bronze recipes.

I have no problem if the kids want to cheat on the test. Because in the end, it just makes them an idiot with a degree. They don't learn anything so they cheat themselves.

Like I said earlier in the thread, as long as farmers leave me alone, I don't care WHAT they do. And once I16 hits, they won't have to bug me at all anymore.

I wasn't going to post to this thread, but I just have to. All of you who are calling people snitches...I just have to ask, "what are you hiding?" In school it was always the ones who jeered at snitchers who were doing things they could be snitched on.

Insulting snitchers means you are guilty as all get out about something...and do you all really want to play in an environment full of cheaters ?? Shudder....I don't.

That said, I really do not get the farming problem. Farming is in the game. You can start farming Hellions for magic salvage at level 4.

If someone wants to rush through the levels, and hit level 50 in, oh I don't know, hours...they are only hurting themselves. Developing a toon through the levels is part of the fun, and when you get to 50 you are bursting with pride. Getting a toon to 50 in hours..where is the pride in that??? Where is the fun, the sense of accomplishent?

There isn't any.

I say, put in a farming tab in the AE so the farmers can farm, and the rest of us can find our stories.

And, to be fair, farmers are a good thing to have because they can, and do, stock Wentworths with recipes and salvage. If there are enough farmers to create competition, the prices will not soar skyhigh...maybe...I guess we will find the answer to this when people are able to create one man farms in issue 16.

There, this ole' granny has had her say.

Hugs to snitchers and snitchees alike...and an extra hug to those who are jeering at the snitchers because they need an extra hug, because they are hiding something, and that cannot feel good on their conscience.
Lisa.

You know, I was actually idly wondering the same thing about the oddly high number of snitch-callers. Not that it matters, particularly.

I fall quite firmly into the anti-farming camp- as in, "I won't do it", not that I care whether or not you do it aside from certain specific exceptions that I'll cover in a moment- since it has, as far as I personally am concerned, all the entertainment value of 'hit button when light is on, get food pellet'.

I object quite strenuously to farming when it does one of three things:

1. Clogs broadcast/request with neverending farm-spam along with the pushy imbeciles who won't take 'bugger off' for an answer when insisting that since I happen to be in the same zone as them, I must be just dying to be on their farm (thankfully, i16 will hopefully cut back on that, since it will be irrelevant).

2. Fills the AE list with eighteen quadrillion useless identical farms. My playtime has been sharply limited of late, and I resent having it wasted since the cleverdicks who think they're getting away with something have disguised their farm with a thin, but plausible, story (yes, that's actually happened to me. I was not impressed). And before some smartaleck gets on me, yes, it has been limited enough that even the time wasted loading in and out the farm I don't want to do is noticeable to the point of being aggravating.

3. AE Babies. The idiot manchild leavings of farm-fillers, who don't know how to play, don't want to learn, and insult you when you attempt to tell them that there is more to the game than sitting in the Atlas Park AE building, or worse yet, can't figure out how to do anything other than sit in the AP AE. Whether you like to admit it or not, taking new players and molding them into AE babies because you happen to want filler right then, you are hurting the game.

Making sure that the vast majority of new players' first experience of the game is standing on the same damn map killing the same damn enemies until their brains turn to pudding and leak out their ears is not a good way to ensure the long-term health of the game. And I don't like having to put up with them, which is a bit frustrating, as I usually enjoy interacting with new players- the shiny hasn't worn off for them, and it can be quite refreshing to team with them as they see things for the first time.

So... to conclude this long-winded half-rant... I don't care if you farm. You can push the button for your pellets all day long, if you like; doesn't bug me. But this is an MMO; you are in a large, cooperative/competitive environment, and your actions will have effects on me and others. I don't think it's all that much to ask that you take that into consideration when forming teams and building yet another Maniac Slammer farm (really, why the hell do we need so many of those?).

P.S.- If you don't mold AE babies, don't build your own farms, and don't spam for filler, then... uh... this wasn't directed at you. At all. I don't care what you're doing, and don't really need to hear about it.

Unfortunately TeChameleon, the people who do the things that you're outlining there don't CARE that they're hurting the game. In fact you will probably get a couple responses to the effect of "They're still letting us do it, so we can't possibly be hurting anything"

They either don't care, don't think anything is being harmed, or just have their heads in the sand on the whole issue because all that's important is their xp/hour ratio.

I don't join PuGs anymore. Especially PuG TFs. I've seen a few level 50s quit the first mission of a TF because it's either too hard for them, or because "I'm not getting xp!" The swamping of the game with AE Babies has made something I used to enjoy doing distasteful to me.

They don't know what they're doing, they have no desire to learn what they're doing, and what's worse, they will tell you that you don't know what you're doing when you try to teach them. They have 12 level 50 characters, they are obviously better at the game than you are, didn't you know that? The fact that they got them all in 2 weeks cannot possibly be relevant though, can it?

You should join some of my teams then, Claws, it might restore your faith in humanity.

Decent AE arcs aren't hard to find and there are a lot of them. I don't understand why you just don't stay in the AE building and start one of them instead.

Ahhh the American penchant for imposing your own morals and values on others. If you don't like AE farms then simply drop from the team if that's what they wanna do. But NO I have the star so your gonna do what I want. That's what team means isn't it follow the leader. When I get people like you on a team I just drop. No tolerance for others is becoming a national past time. Are you a socialist by any chance I hear they are big on snitches.

Congrats for having no life and being the guy that feels that since someone is not playing the game your way you must report them and ruin their fun even though they are paying the same fee you are and their being here is keeping your game alive regardless of what they are doing as for reporting the farm your an idiot there is no violation in farming only if its using an exploit many farms are legit missions just run repetively for a continuous flow of exp. You are such a Nazi if its not your way its the wrong way.

you should learn to just worry about yourself and leave others alone.

I choose not to farm, I prefer SF/TF's and PvP/Arena

but to each their own