If you haven't looked at the new Skulls, please do.
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Posted on: 2012-08-19 24:36 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
I found them kind of awesome. I like the new look for the Family as well.
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Originally Posted by TheJazMan
I like the new look.
My question is why don't they keep the old and new? It gives more variety (kinda). I wondered the same thing for the CoT. The old and new would have given us much more variety. The classic old look robes could have been the lower ranks and so on. |
Old Look = model with no removable parts, like an all-in-one-cast plastic model. This is why when people want an old-look costume part, it's impossible to port it anywhere, it's a part of the whole enemy model.
New Look = model with clothing details added, same as with players, so that you can mix and match costume parts. That's the reason they're borrowing a lot from player costumes as well, I'd think. Makes it easier. But any new costume pieces they add this way are easy to port to player models as well.
Also: hair bad, other changes good. Zombie Man funny.
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It's funny, because most people i've talked to like the new Skulls.
EXCEPT the club hair-do. That's basically it.
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So a thread asking people to go on to Beta and look for themselves is useless because I hadn't posted pictures yet? Great feedback, champ. Thanks for the useful and valid opinion. |
Having pictures so that they can see and comment on it here would seem to be a no-brainer.
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Have to agree with this. Unlike the CoT revamp, I like this one quite a bit. Just that one hair style is out of place.
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Originally Posted by TheShattered
It's funny, because most people i've talked to like the new Skulls.
EXCEPT the club hair-do. That's basically it. |
I'd been sitting around wondering when the skulls were gonna get a new look!
Well, not really.
But why not update some other lowbie groups while we're at it!
Track suits and gold chains for the Family.
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While the club-do is silly, I think it fits if he's supposed to be some teenager fitting in with the Skulls.
And really I like what they've done, the Skulls and the Hellions originally were just too similar, now the Skulls are actually a decently freaky looking low-level faction. Devs are really on the ball about this.
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Originally Posted by Mr_Morbid
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The new look is fine with me. I wonder if Grym will have his dialog changed to acknowledge that the Skulls really ARE wearing masks and not face paint?
I wouldn't protest if the wild club hair got the axe. I do like the classic close-cropped look.
Otherwise, I'm more pleased with the new look than anything. Is there more to the problem than just the clothes and the hairstyles?
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That hair is terrible at the best of times. Aside from that hairstyle and the female, no one else from those pics is wearing the Pocket D stuff as far as I can tell, just old pieces with terrible colours.
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Originally Posted by Jetpack
Just that one hair style is out of place.
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Haven't seen the new ponytailed Family have you?
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Damn, the new Skulls look terrible...
...ly awesome. I don't even mind the Club hair.
I was one of those that raised hell over the CoT revamp and demanded a re-redo (I still don't think they look as good as they originally did, but I can live with it), but I actually really like the new look for the Skulls. They don't stand out as much anymore with the new textures. I'm not a big fan of the Death Dolls' look, but eh. The only thing I despise is the Pocket D pack hair. I hate it. I hate it so very much, and not just the "Oh hey that guy's hair is ugly, I'll beat him up!" hate, but the "Dear God why did you even give this hairstyle a passing thought when deciding what costume pieces to put in the game" hate. I hate it so much that I hope all the people who came up with, drew, designed, and then actually put it in game go bald because anyone who thinks that is a good looking hairstyle does not deserve a full head of hair.
Anyways, that's my two cents. Good job on the revamp, but for the love of God get rid of the club hair.
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Looks okay for the most part. But I'll just add to the chorus singing that the club hair has got to go.
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I'd wondered about Grym's comment. At no point have official Skulls used face paint. They always had masks made from human skulls.|
Originally Posted by SlickRiptide
I wonder if Grym will have his dialog changed to acknowledge that the Skulls really ARE wearing masks and not face paint?
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When I read Grym's comment, I assumed the devs were going to reboot Skulls using face paint, since that was already easily translatable to player models. However, now that they've added Carnie masks to the creator, they probably made a skull version of that mask, changed their plans, and now Grym's dialog is out of spec.
BTW, do the old Skulls have a symbol on their back that is no longer used?
Makes me wonder if we'll see a similar update to the Hellions, where they all get Fallen masks and lose their distinctive back symbols.
(Heh, the wiki is already updating their Skulls pix.)
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They wear fezzes now. Fezzes are cool.
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Originally Posted by cursedsorcerer
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Originally Posted by Fista
I found them kind of awesome. I like the new look for the Family as well.
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As far as the Skulls, they don't look half-bad to me.
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I, like many, like the new Skulls except for the Pocket D hair.
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I suspect Grym's comment has more to do with the fact that whoever wrote it was encouraged to be the sort of good writer that isn't constrained by things like precedent and backstory.
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Originally Posted by konshu
When I read Grym's comment, I assumed the devs were going to reboot Skulls using face paint, since that was already easily translatable to player models.
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I have not been on Beta. From the picks. hmmm. I like the masks better. The hair, yeah, less than good. I like the white prison gang look of the current Skulls better, but the masks have always been less than.
The Skulls looks better, IMO. Unlike the CoT revamp, all they did with the Skulls is give them higher resolution costume parts that still keep the same theme they've always had. The only thing I'd change about the new Skulls is getting rid of the Doofus and male Pocket D hairstyles. They look stupid.
Also the new Family are just guys in higher def suits. Which is pretty much what the old Family looked like. However they now use higher tech weapons and no longer have those cool faces they got with CoV.
The Mooks, however, look the exact same, which is cool. They're the ones that didn't wear full on suits, and instead just wore shirts, suspenders, and nice pants.
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I disagree. I kinda like the club hair. It gives off a rebellious/messy/chaotic vibe and is in better resolution than the "Wild" hair.
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Originally Posted by Fire_Wyrm
I was one of those that raised hell over the CoT revamp and demanded a re-redo (I still don't think they look as good as they originally did, but I can live with it), but I actually really like the new look for the Skulls. They don't stand out as much anymore with the new textures. I'm not a big fan of the Death Dolls' look, but eh. The only thing I despise is the Pocket D pack hair. I hate it. I hate it so very much, and not just the "Oh hey that guy's hair is ugly, I'll beat him up!" hate, but the "Dear God why did you even give this hairstyle a passing thought when deciding what costume pieces to put in the game" hate. I hate it so much that I hope all the people who came up with, drew, designed, and then actually put it in game go bald because anyone who thinks that is a good looking hairstyle does not deserve a full head of hair.
Anyways, that's my two cents. Good job on the revamp, but for the love of God get rid of the club hair. |
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The Club hair for men doesn't look good on- ok, RARELY looks good on people, and kudos to those that make it work.
And the 'Slavic' writing can go find a nice, big, spiky burning hole to fall into and die, because it is TERRIBLE. And, having just come out of Atlas with it's 'stop the Skulls recruiting' we KNOW they are no all cheap GTA-esque knock offs. Not the writing teams finest hour, frankly.
Other than those two points? I love it. The skulls they wear look like actual skulls, like it should be, since that's where they get them. I don't mind some of the Leadership being Slavic, but every single ganger? No. That's as stupid as saying the Council only recruit Italians, or the 5th only recruit Germans. It's kludgey, badly done and borderline offensive.
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I definitely like the new look. It still has the same old 'skulls' feel, but a heavily updated and refined, to make them look more unique. While I'm not a fan of the club hair (I'm not a fan of that style itself... although many people out there actually have that and similar styles), it works quite well for the skulls and what they are.
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Originally Posted by Mr_Morbid
Track suits and gold chains for the Family.
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(and the family were revamped???)
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