I'm curious what percentage of superpacks bought was through the Paragon Reward Tokens repeatable. I have personally spent quite a bit of money on Paragon Points, but I didn't buy any of my superpacks through the Market.
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I bought a total of 79 Superpacks; 7 of those were with tokens. I didn't get the Black Wolf, but didn't want it anyway. The rest of it I've been putting to good use and don't consider the money wasted at all.
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small sample, but none of mine were.|
Originally Posted by Draeth Darkstar
I'm curious what percentage of superpacks bought was through the Paragon Reward Tokens repeatable. I have personally spent quite a bit of money on Paragon Points, but I didn't buy any of my superpacks through the Market.
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My pattern seems to be buy chunk of points for something, use leftover points on super packs.
Being VIP again and having a monthly chunk of points arriving in the mail might change things- we'll see.
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I have enjoyed the Super Packs I've gotten....although I will say that opening them while drinking usually prompts more purchasing. :P
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Actually, you're correct. I made a typo that affected very rare (more precisely, I used an older version of my spreadsheet that had the same typo I made the last time, forgot to sync dropbox). This affects ATIOs, Reward Merits, Catalysts, and the Black Wolf Pet.|
Originally Posted by Mazey
I thought that, once the costume pieces had been gotten, the chance of getting a wolf was about 1 in 250 packs?
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The correct numbers for those are:
Enhancement Catalysts: 67,005
ATIOs: 384,106
Merits: 30,764,225
Black Wolf Pets: 2,482 (one in 242 packs)
(In every case, significantly more than my prior calculations).
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I try to at least dabble in all the mini-games offered. In the case of superpacks, my sole purchase of packs was with a Reward Token.|
Originally Posted by Draeth Darkstar
I'm curious what percentage of superpacks bought was through the Paragon Reward Tokens repeatable. I have personally spent quite a bit of money on Paragon Points, but I didn't buy any of my superpacks through the Market.
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The subsequent gameplay ('opening' the packs for the 'thrill' of discovery) was duller than dirt and the rewards were 'meh'. I won't be wasting any more tokens on this nonsense and I'm sure as heck not going to waste Paragon Points on them.
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To be honest, I already had a spreadsheet with all these numbers precalculated as ratios from the superpack testing I did in beta and the numbers posted by the devs on the card weights. So it wasn't that hard to add a new set of calculations that scaled those upward to 600,000 packs.|
Originally Posted by Santorican
How do you have the time to do this lol?
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The hard part was coming up with the estimates for superpack distribution (what the rarity mix was per pack) which required opening 2000 superpacks on beta. I'll admit that was a little crazy, although it took less time than when I ran 700+ radio missions to measure the Pool D drop rate in Issue 9 beta because I had a "feeling" it wasn't the 10% that was reported (it turned out to be 7.2%).
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I like the super packs. Didn't think I would, but I do. I bought a 24 pack for myself right after Christmas, on my birthday, and one after I'd worked waaaaay too much overtime.
These are splurges, and what I get from them are luxury items. I really enjoy having a stash of unslotters, the enhancement (and other) boosters, reward merits, stuff like that.
But I think it's important to recognize that they ARE just luxury items. There is nothing necessary in these packs.
I think the devs got this one just right, actually. Helpful, time-saving stuff, which is in no way "pay to win".
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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
Next SuperPack should have Invention Salvage rewards, something like:
20 random common card 10 random uncommon card 3 random rare card |
Ooh, wish I would have seen this before I took the survey. Good thought!
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If they did this I would even buy some Supergamble Packs, but I doubt they will.
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Originally Posted by JKCarrier
Even so, as long as the chance is less than 100%, I am reluctant to spend real money on it. At the Pummit, they floated the idea of players being able to sell their unopened Super Packs at the auctionhouse. I would be ok with risking INF on a random roll.
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Math is scary.
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Calculations are dull.
Opening up 2000 super packs to collect data? There's a reason I'm not a chemist or a physicist. Mathematicians don't need to collect data, people just give it to them.
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Originally Posted by Neuronia
Heh.
My irl frend that plays casually finally broke down and got some packs with some reward tokens, nominally hunting for catalysts. 20 packs opened, full costume set, Black Wolf in first pack and 8 catalysts. Yeah, he's that guy that's super lucky.  |
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I was wondering about the ATIOs. Does it check to see which ones you have if you have not claimed any?
I am pretty sure it checks to see which ones you need so that it can give you something else!
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Really big spender here. I've bought 6 (36 cards). That's 1/100,000th of the total sold. Using stipend points of course. Without my ginormous purchases, the whole thing is a fail.
Great, cool, they are a resounding success, so it shouldn't hurt now to have a alternate way to get the costumes outside of them, since they clearly dont need the costumes pieces held hostage for their success. anything to report there zwill?
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None of mine. I save the Reward Tokens for things I cannot get any other way.
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Originally Posted by Draeth Darkstar
I'm curious what percentage of superpacks bought was through the Paragon Reward Tokens repeatable. I have personally spent quite a bit of money on Paragon Points, but I didn't buy any of my superpacks through the Market.
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total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
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I leave them in my email and just claim them when I need them. |
Originally Posted by blueruckus
These things are a million times better than Awake inspirations though. Revival grants untouchable and no stun. It's basically the Return to Battle vet power without the inspiration buffs. Restores are nice to have for the unprepared teammate.
Since I got so many of these from super packs I tend to keep a stack of these readily available at all times. |
I do the same with the Experienced powers I get. If you claim a bunch of them you have to wait until it recharges. If you claim them one at a time you can use them instantly.
I don't know if the Revival and Restore powers work the same, but I'm assuming they do.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately. |
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I was pleasantly surprised to find that the large Team Inspirations obtained through Super Packs last a full 5 minutes. |
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
What exactly are the things in the packs that you'd be able to find zero use for, and are tyring to avoid ever getting near your avatar?
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I have not found anything in the packs to be useless. Using the metric butt ton of inspirations I've gotten, I can start from 0% and stay at the Incarnate soft-cap on defense for almost 2 hours.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately. |
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This. Reward tokens are kind of precious. You never know what might show up. Points stuff; well, you can always buy points or just use free points.|
Originally Posted by SwellGuy
I save the Reward Tokens for things I cannot get any other way.
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edit: I made 1.7 bil off merits/converters I got from my packs. I am happy.
Interestingly, I have hoarded my inf... First bil in 8 years of playing.
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Amen. Let's stop hiding stuff behind Supergamble Packs as they are popular enough to stand on their own. Allow for us to be able to get the costume and the black wolf now please. As stated no need to continue to play hide and seek as it is in fact TOTALLY annoying.
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Originally Posted by rian_frostdrake
Great, cool, they are a resounding success, so it shouldn't hurt now to have a alternate way to get the costumes outside of them, since they clearly dont need the costumes pieces held hostage for their success. anything to report there zwill?
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The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
Estimated number of cards by type:
Common: 1,326,000
Uncommon: 600,000
Rare: 600,000
Very Rare: 474,000
Estimated Consumables (totals, not cards):
Medium Dual Inspirations: 132,600
Medium Team Inspirations: 99,450
Medium Team Dual Inspirations: 66,300
Large Dual Inspirations: 116,025
Large Team Inspirations: 82,875
Large Team Dual Inspirations: 49,725
Enhancement Unslotters: 397,782
Enhancement Boosters: 1,268,980
Enhancement Catalyst: 38,548
Revive Temporary Power: 289,978
Restore Temporary Power: 289,978
Experienced Temporary Power: 454,032
XP Booster: 247,439
Windfall Power: 227,766
Prestige Booster: 49,725
Estimated ATIOs: 260,792
Estimated Reward Merits: 25,810,525
Miscellany:
Estimated value of ATIOs in superpacks based on current pricing: five to fifteen trillion influence
Under optimal conditions, maximum number of Black Wolf pets that are statistically likely: 1428 (approximately one in 420 packs)
Estimated Points spent on Superpacks: between 36 and 48 million
Estimated Value of Points: $375,000 - $600,000
(numbers do not factor in reward token purchases)
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