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Bleh, Radiation Armor. I turned the Ustream off as soon as that was picked. I'll tune back in for the Costume workshop, but making an armor set has to the most boring panel ever. Like 7 of the powers of any armor set are thematically the same. Hope they still end up trying throwing weapons, that would've been a much better set to do a panel on. Don't get me wrong, armor sets are fine, but there's really not much to discuss about em except for number tweaks. Hope the costume workshop doesn't disappoint as well...
Well you couldn't have been more wrong...there was no number crunching. Discussed was what the powers would do...their names etc.. There are some neat ideas thrown out for rad armor. The rez/no rez power sounds cool - can be used as a nuke type power if you are alive...think rise of The phoenix...when you are alive without KB.


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I find it annoying that interesting Control sets were argued, then someone comes along for a Radiation set, says "It's Radiation..." and that's picked.
Air control received the least amount of cheers among the sets- not saying it is not wanted, but from chat and live audience rad armor was the most wanted.

Edit: and at least rad melee didn't win out...because we have plenty of existing melee powersets...and one on the way.


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Air control received the least amount of cheers among the sets- not saying it is not wanted, but from chat and live audience rad armor was the most wanted.

Edit: and at least rad melee didn't win out...because we have plenty of existing melee powersets...and one on the way.
I am pretty sure from the way Synapse was talking, we will get Rad Melee and Rad Armor at the same time.

That panel was actually really fun to watch, and there some very cool ideas thrown out and accepted by the devs.


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Yeah the rez/no rez power is pretty neat. If you're alive, it's a PBAoE. If you're dead it's a rez & a PBAoE. Hope that makes it through to the live version


 

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Just posting all my notes. I haven't cleaned them up or anything, so it's a bit jumbled near the end, but here you all go!

Design a Powerset Panel

With Synapse and Honey Badger and others

Always a possibility they might revisit the unused powerset ideas later for their own stuff.

Six people with ideas they liked get to make an elevator pitch for their stuff. 90 second pitch.

Pollyanna Matronic gets to make her pitch: Air Control

Idea is for air based powers that don't make our teammates hate us (like Gale). Holds like Whirlwind hold.

"When I think about my life and how air has impacted me personally..."

Wrangle: Radiation Armor.

I don't get to hear about Radiation Armor because Ustream sucks and threw me to an ad. Saddest of pandas.

Figurehead: Psi Armor.

He's pitching an idea that is strong against Psi. Weak to Smash/Lethal. Focus on control and positioning, almost a light crowd control set.

Name for next one was scratched out. Doesn't get to go!

Scott Artphobia: Power/Tech Arm.

Kind of like a multi-arm thing... eh, kind of all over the place more like a concept/costume/animation bit.

New Jacks Wain: Weapon Assault/Manipulation.

Basically porting over weapons sets to Dominators and Blasters.

Brian Simmons: Air Blast

"I didn't really think this through!"

Posi: It isn't easy, is it?

The group comes up with "Buffet" mechanic. The guy choked. It happens.

Miss Volkenkautz(sp?): Throwing Weapons (blast set)

"Title says it all." Knives/shurikens/boomerangs/etc. Pick your weapon!

Magnitism Control! But the guy gets stage fright.

Guy: We don't have it yet, cosmic force rings or pieces of metal.

Someone brings up Radiation Melee.

War Boss gets to pitch Radiation Melee.

War Boss: "It's radiation." Tanks don't really have a debuffing set or a pure energy damage set.

Shows the Ground Rules:
No Mastermind Powersets - MM powersets take exponentially more resources and time to make
No Whips - Booooooo
No Stretching Powers - Physics
No Growth or Shrinking Powers - Animations/physics
No Ranged Weapons/Melee Weapons Combinations - They've tried a few times, it doesn't really work as well as you'd think.
No Goofy/Joke Powersets: no Hamster Launching, Clown Summoning, Bazooka Punching, Carp Melee

Posi: I don't want to get sued by DC.

Devs Top Three: They picked four

Air Blast
Radiation Armor
Radiation Melee
Throwing Weapons

Comes down to voice vote, with tie between Radiation Armor and Throwing Weapons

They decide to do Radiation Armor.

Devs talk with players about what they want from the set, as Synapse compiles notes and sketches this out

"What do you expect to get out of Radiation Armor?" "Cancer!"

Player Suggestions:
Absorb Mechanic
Toggles, not clicks!
Mutation as a Self Rez
At least one PBAoE Debuff (TOGGLE)
Choking Cloud?
Maybe a Stygian Circle type thing?

They introduce Honey Badger, who designs power animations

Maybe a low pulsing glow

Some kind of Tier 9 Meltdown godmode (not a fan of those, personally)

Synapse: If we're making a Radiation defense set, we'll probably make an attack set

Synapse: Absorb does not work on a timer. It's an absolute value.

Devs: The more UI changes or things that come in, the more we hate it.

Positron makes a bad joke. Gets challenged to karaoke.

Synapse: Because of limited time, this is pretty rough. But wants to Absorb mechanic. Absorb and Toggles don't mix. Debuff aura or two. Or a debuff aura that also buffs you. Maybe a tier 8 self-rez/fallout, that can also be used to buff you. Maybe a power where your recovery and regen bonus increases as your HP goes down. Maybe a debuff heal. Meltdown with crash.

Had a bit of trouble seeing the screen, so I can't quite keep up.

First Power: Damage Resistance Toggle: Half Life. Standard Resistance toggle.

Synapse struggles with the Excel spreadsheet.

Second Power: Second Resistance Toggle: Toxic/Energy/???

Ad eats my ustream again! >

The Regen/Recovery Special toggle

Put Psionic in the Status armor

Proton Armor

Someone suggests for a power name "Fallout Shelter".

Radiation Therapy: A Heal: Self: +HP Foe: -Regen (-something)

Cackling from crowd.

Debuff Aura: Beta Decay: Toggle: Foe Taunt/-Damage Self: +Recharge

Synapse: Absorb and MaxHP are actually pretty different, since MaxHP is temporary. Absorb is forever until it's gone.

Some kind of Self-Rez that combines Mutation and Fallout. Ground Zero is name? Can be used while still alive too. Brings the damage down

T9: Meltdown: Fit a damage aura into it. Buffs Resistance, stuff, debuffs other guys ToHit.

Zwil: let's not get into the minutea. That's what Phil (Synapse) and Beta are for.

Honey Badge: Stuff like auras and eye auras are problematic.

They ask a producer: Next steps are sell it to the producers, Synapse puts in placeholder animations and numbers where internal testers work on it while animation and sound guys work on it, then pitch it to the testers.

I got hit with ads when Synapse was reading off most of the power ideas, so I missed some of it.

Okay, managed to grab a listing from @PollyMatronic's Twitter feed.

Radiation Armor power names: Half Life, Gamma Boost, Proton Armor, Fallout Shelter, Radiation Therapy, Beta Decay, Particle Shielding, Ground Zero, Meltdown

Half Life: Toggle: self +Res(Smash/Lethal/Energy?)

Gamma Boost: Auto: +Regen/+Recovery (Special): Has a base boost to Recovery and Regen. As you take more damage, the Regen buff increases as the Recovery buff decreases.

Proton Armor: Toggle: Self +Res(Energy/Fire/Cold/Negative)

Fallout Shelter: Toggle: Self +Res(Status/Psi/Toxic)

Radiation Therapy: Self: +HP Foe: -Regen

Beta Decay: Toggle: Foe Taunt, -DMG / Self +Recharge(?)

(these last three I couldn't quite see on her Twitter, so I'm going from memory of their effects)

Particle Shielding: Something similar to Stygian Circle by the sound of it, I think.

Ground Zero: A self-rez that combines Mutation and Fallout, and can also be used while awake.

Meltdown: Some kind of Tier 9 supermode.

Zwil: Coming eventually to a market near you!

Next is Costume Workshop!


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I find it annoying that interesting Control sets were argued, then someone comes along for a Radiation set, says "It's Radiation..." and that's picked.
If you're talking about Air Control I didn't find that particularly interesting. Magnetism did sound interesting, though. Really though, more armors would be pretty interesting considering they could be used by Brutes, Tankers, Scrappers, & Stalkers instead of just Controllers & Dominators.


 

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hmm wish i was there would have pitched a gadget control set so we can have a non elemental/supernatural control set.


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Personal Wish: Able to attend
Reasoning: Dress as-: Correction: Resume Rikti form
Pitch Idea: Rikti EAT
Naturally Includes: Rikti Powersets
Idea: Superior
Birth Body Humans: Inferior


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I expected that, but I thought StJ would be ranked higher than BR for Power sets.
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I think that BR placed so high because of the novelty factor of being the first market power set, and the general market frenzy with the launch of Freedom - people have settled down now, and seem to plan their buying a lot more carefully.
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Also, just as a completely off-the-cuff guess: it's the only ranged set that's been offered for sale (at least, that's not free for VIPs), so if you want a new ranged set, you take Beam Rifle. On the other hand, if you want a new melee set, there was StJ and TW, and now Staff, to choose from. Splitting the vote, as it were.
Another contributing cause I think is that Beam Rifle is closer to unique. If you want to make an unarmed fighter there's already Martial Arts and Super Strength; they may not be exactly what you want, but they're perfectly serviceable unarmed sets. If your character concept is "a guy with a ray gun", then Beam Rifle is effectively it, short of making a highly ineffectual petless Bot MM.


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I'm personally glad an armor set won. It's been a loooooong time since we've gotten a new one (Shield Defense in Issue 13, 3 and a half years ago). I'm somewhat less happy that the one that got picked was Radiation Armor, which shares a lot of concept space with Symbiotic Armor.


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Gah, I am not liking Ustream. I get 3 seconds of the plummit then an ad molests me, then Ustream closes out. Grrrr >


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I am sad that the taunt Aura for Radiation Armor will not be Choking Cloud.


 

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Radiation Armor won the 'create a powerset' spot.
Would like to have known what the alternatives were.


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Would like to have known what the alternatives were.
Radiation Melee
Air Blast
Weapons Blast
Magnetic Control
Air Control

top ones discussed


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I believe it was Radiation Melee, Air Blast and Throwing Weapons


 

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I believe it was Radiation Melee, Air Blast and Throwing Weapons
You are correct. In that Synapse said we were suppose to pick three, but have kind of picked 4.


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FINALLY another armour set! Happy welshy here!


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My notes on the Costume Workshop:

Costume Workshop

They pick the submissions they like, and make people do 60 second elevator pitches

Zwil: Arcanaville, you're insane.

Queen of Eels: Aquatic Life. Stuff in it: Lobster Claws, Eyes on Stalks, Crab Claws. Wants more Fish Heads and Tails. Crustacean Aura. Wet Aura. Tentacle Arms.

*animators' heads explode at mentions of Tentacles*

Impish Cat: Polynesian/Aztec Costume Set. Grass skirts, feathered headdressess, elaborate/ceremonial, Aztecky weapons? Like Banished Pantheon's stuff. Tiki guys and flowers in hairs or lai. Yeah.

*David doodles a Superman S on a dude, writes "Copywrite Infrengement Power Set!"*

Samuraiko: Mayantek: More serpentine/animalistic. Savage, lot of angles. Furs, skins, turquoise. Pectoral chest pieces/Mesoamerican look. Angular/rough. Hewn obsidian. Stone. Bronze.

Alferetta: Pirates! Yarr! "We need pirates!" Floppy hats, floppy shirts for guys. Errol Flynn for guys. Cutlasses. Sash for guys. Pirate swashbuckler look. Monkey/pirate shoulder pet.

*David doodles more: gives the male model a Miss Paragon Sash and a pirate cap*

Introduces other folks. Some of the artists and animators.

???: Pulp Hero and Detective. Pulp heroes are freaking awesome. We need Doc Savage, Sky Captain. Longer skirts for girl detectives. Smoking jackets. Cthulhu! Tentacles!

Arbiter Fabulous: Post-Apocalyptic. "Considering we just took Radiation Armor"... also with the fall of Praetoria. Gas masks for the shoulder, not just a shredded outfit or robe. Leather armor torn to hell, metal bits bolted on. Sounds very Road Warrior.

*David colors models pink*

Jeff: Knives of Artemis, expanded into Paramilitary. They've got a really cool costume set (Knives). Arm crossbows. Night vision goggles, cool weapons strapped to their bodies.

*David doodles giant guns on models, erases their feet*

Alan Duncan: Death. "I don't see enough long robes." Circle of Thorns. Dark gothic death theme. Scythes.

*David draws a Reaper with a happy hat*

Sultry Siren: *applause to Siren for running Real World Hero charity from crowd* Film Noir. Similar to Pulp. The whole Detective thing, with Bogart and Hephburn. Nicer hair, more 1930s style! Hats. People cut their hair more than that.

Firehart: Celtic Knot. Your generic fantasy Renaissance thing. A shirt with a skirt? Half gloves/half boots. Hat with feather. Quiver.

*David draws a Quiver*

Zwil doesn't have screenshots he promised. Boooooo

Questions about the Brainslug. "Liked the idea but felt it could expanded into it's own set. Whole parasitical entity thing." Probably where Bioarmor came from.

David: Mechanical stuff is harder to draw than, y'know, a shirt.

*David tries to doodle a dead fish emblem, gets a dead carrot*

Devs: Just because we don't pick it today doesn't mean we won't hold on to it for later.

The devs settle on three: Acquatic, Paramilitary, Post-Apoc

Zwil's Ustream breaks. They go with Post-Apoc.

They discuss ideas and inspirations. Mad Max, obviously. Someone mentions the Lord Humongous mask. The Lost. Stop sign armor or shields. Melting face. Scrap metal cludge armor. Stitched metal and leather. Motorcycle chain sash or belt. Anything from a Bruce Campbell film.

Groovy.

Motorcycle helmets with the mowhawk, tattoos, etc. A new skin for the Arachnos backpack... with chainsaws. Dead tire armor. Fishnet tops. Titan Weapons baseball bat.

Someone suggests Chainsaw Titan Weapons. (YEEESSS)

Female tattooes. Snake Plisskin haircut for men. Ragged military uniforms. Double barreled shotgun (boomstick!). Polyeister Leasure suits. Updated eye patches. Ripped jeans. Twinkie throwing power (twinkies can survive anything!). Tank Girl.

Tank as a vanity pet.

Ragged texture to costumes.

Devs: Asymetrical costumes are hard. It might throw off existing patterns.

Skull bandoliers.

Giant cockroach vanity pet. Jury rigged gun. Cockroach path aura (Zwil: Could it crunch as you walk?). Someone suggests rusty chainmail and armor. Katana's rusty blade for other sets, chained on cinerblock (rat on a stick) for War Mace. Makeshift bandana. Someone suggests Book of Eli for reference. Radiation suit. Distressed poncho.

Devs discuss the process of turning a concept into a costume. Takes a bit.

Someone suggests Hazmat suit. Broken glasses. Six String Samurai, Buckaroo Banzai. More gas masks and goggles. Different kinds of hair. Five o'clock shadow. Someone brings up zombie apoc: so blood splatter. Machetes. Geiger counter. Old AIM style buckethead hazmat suit. Actual trenchcoats. Wearable computer: PIP Boy (aka "Thing from another company's game" "I'll give you a hint: it's not a lightsaber. Excuse me, Laser Sword). Wrist computer. Tusken raider style headwrap.

Satchel or medpack. Chunk of rebar as weapon. Dynamite bandolier. "Paint Splatter" (T for Teen, folks! If it happens to be red, not our fault!). Throwing circular saws for Shurikens ("Can we do that?" "If we had throwing weapons."). Brain without the jar. Second head. Cooking pot hat. Tattoos, bar codes.

Devs: Getting the sense of tattoos and bar codes.

Golf bag backpack. Rusty cyborg bits. Stump hand. Bandage covered head with one eye visible. Football helmets. Muscular female skin texture. Short bomber jackets. Third arm back detail. Tanktop that doesn't stop at midriff.

Titan weapon suggestions: large statue arm, helicopter blade.

Zwil: Blades are made first as Titan Weapons, then scaled down to others. Same with others. Titan Weapons are easy, because of their large handles.

Fabulous sunglasses (Devs: only if we can break one of the lens). Incan style war mace: a cricket bat with rocks in it. A nailbat. Tire tread kilt. Bundle o' junk Titan Weapon. Tire shoulder armor. Barbed wire wraped sticks. Barbed wire wrapped chainsaws. Nine iron. Cow skull mask.

Devs: improvised weapons built from scrap to hurt things.

Someone suggests Dual Pistol Nailguns.

Devs: Probably.

Leaking, beat up plasma gun.

Devs: Haven't heard many backpack costumes.

Crowd: Quiver!

Devs: I think I heard a Q.

David: I think this boils down to ruining other things and combined with makeshift stuff.

Protean: Backpack of canned goods. Power armor with belt o' car batteries.

Spam bandolier. Stack full of twinkies.

Zwil: There you have it. The beginnings of further exploration into the Post-Apocalyptic Costume Set.

And break time for costume workshop. Next up is Make Your Case for Zone Revamp.

The complete set for Post-Apocalyptic:



Thanks to @PollyMatronic for taking those pictures.


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I am not sure I could have been any less excited by that choice. No one suggested a Green Lantern Style Energy Armor. Made like the Victorian aura, or the Radiance parts of the Ascension armor?

Half the stuff discussed can already be simulated with things in the creator. Oh well. Maybe we will get the torn spandex from the crazy peeps in FW.


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Originally Posted by Draeth Darkstar View Post
I'm personally glad an armor set won. It's been a loooooong time since we've gotten a new one (Shield Defense in Issue 13, 3 and a half years ago). I'm somewhat less happy that the one that got picked was Radiation Armor, which shares a lot of concept space with Symbiotic Armor.
Yeah that sounds weird. I thought Symbiotic Armor was essentially going to be our "radiation armor"

Hmmm


 

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The final choice of which to go with was not made by the devs, but by crowd voice vote. They also did say that they're going to hold onto these suggestions for later, even the costume ideas they didn't use today. So we may see some of this stuff later on anyways.


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The final choice of which to go with was not made by the devs, but by crowd voice vote. They also did say that they're going to hold onto these suggestions for later, even the costume ideas they didn't use today. So we may see some of this stuff later on anyways.
I think it was the suggester being voted for as much as the suggested. Fab is pretty darn popular in the community.


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Radiation Armor won the 'create a powerset' spot.
ew radiation yay meelee armor set.

F YEAH AIR BLAST MAKING TOP FOUR [yay air blast i like more than air control BUT WOULD LOVE BOTH because i play trollers more.]

YES YES YES YES PLEASE

i SO would have screamed the loudest for that set.

want so much. especially if its like ice blast with a couple holds and some AoEs and maybe one cone.

UGH WANT SO BAD. so many animations are already in game anyway they just need to be tied together and given numbers.

anyway, glad this was at least mentioned meaning its on their radar. Make it happen tunnel rat and honey badger! <3 y'all are my heroes


 

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I think it was the suggester being voted for as much as the suggested.
Hm. Bummer.