genuine need or company spite? *spoilers*

So...I've been thinking recently.

With the SSA1 now finished and done does anyone else kind of feel that the killing off of Sister Psyche was kind of...I don't know...spiteful?

I mean, I can understand killing off Statesman, he's the big cheese superhero, he the CoH Superman and his death along with things we've seen in the Dark Astoria arcs will hopefully lead to interesting places.

Now, as more than a few people know Statesman and Sister Psyche were both Jack Emmerts characters and the death of Sister Psyche seemed somewhat needless. It happened right after we dealt with the death of another superhero so 'teh drama' factor doesn't work because piling on the death a second time is simply going to raise eyebrows instead of a 'shock horror gasp' reaction.

With news that Positron is being promoted to the lead of the Freedom Phalanx I can't help but feel that there is a somewhat spiteful mean to kill of Jack's characters to remove 'his last remaining ingame influence'.

I mean yeah the term 'Creator's pet' does get thrown around but lets be honest, I'd actually rather have Back Alley Brawler take the lead than Positron since the fact that Positron is now bumped up to Superhero numero uno while killing off the previous guys characters just doesn't sit well with me. I just think there is an ulterior motive behind all this.

I know, I know people have probably heard this a hundred times already but I just can't get over the fact that Sister Psyche really didn't need to die, her death seemed completely pointless and considering that she is now 'Dead dead' accoring to Dr Aeon rather than 'mind riding' like some of us hoped just...eh...can't shake that feeling of spite.

Well, i have to admit to being a bit disappointed at having Sister Psyche killed off since she was one of my favorite living Freedom Phalanx members. While i've been referring to her as Sistah Psycho for years it was always in an affectionate manner. Mostly.

That, and the in game and metagame circumstances around her death leave me a little dubious as to the storytelling regarding and the need for her death.

There's still plenty of time to pull a Jean Grey or the like with her. Although, this being a superhero themed game, that's really the same as saying she could return any time between now and the servers shutting down.

I call it unnecessary cruelty to Manticore.

I approve of killing both of them off. States needed to die, and the Freedom Phalanx needed to be hit harder than just States leaving. SP dying, along with Manticore being left seriously messed up (repeatedly having the crap beaten out of him if you're a villain) will knock the Freedom Phalanx down the several notches that they needed to be.

We've been saving Paragon City for eight and a half years. It's time to do it one more time.

Company spite!

It seemed pretty obvious from the beginning, States was going to be offed because he was Jack's big character. Was hoping it wouldn't be the case, but it was.

Sister Psyche though? She was a fan favorite. Then they killed her off.

Both just seem tied to being Jack's creations, so let's get rid of them. Which seeing as they were properties of CoH, I dont know why it even matters that they were Jack's creations. :/

If they were going to kill off those two, I reall wish they killed off BABs too. At least it wouldn't have felt all "Kill Jack's!"

And the reason I say BABS too is because everyone says "Oh those two characters didnt have any detail to them anyways" well neither does BABS and he's a fan favorite.

KILL BACK ALLEY BRAWLER! \o/

The scene is a straight up X-Men ripoff.

Honestly, I don't have any sort of connection with any of the Freedom Phalanx. I think they made a huge mistake when they gave them TFs instead of more story arcs that would let the players "connect" to the heroes in some way, shape, or form.

I think they only killed Psyche so they could let Penny join and still have room for somebody totally new.

I am with Brand on this on..feels spiteful to me. Surely the fact Jack is no longer (I assume?) tied to the game in any way is enough?

Add in the fact that Sissy's death was just so stupidly pointless...no Numina on hand to watch the ritual, no checking the area for traps, no ATTEMPT to subdue her (when he has a power called Sleep Arrow or whatever)...just so weak.

Honestly, I would have been happier if..wait for it..NO ONE died in the who will die arcs. Wouldn't that have been a huge twist? Simply have States depowered by DW, and your character comes to the rescue at the end of the cutscene. Then have Sis go a little loopy, maybe being trapped in her mind and having periods where she is lucid.

The above would have allowed them both to be 'kept' in game. Although..considering how both characters are STILL in game, and will be for some time... I just cant get my head around the fact that they knew they were gonna kill States right from the start, and didnt at least make the effort to remove him.

To those people taking about how it is good the FP 'got taken down a peg'...given how seriously incompetent the SSAs make them all out to be..taking them down a few pegs surely puts them in the negative territory right?

Dr. Aeon was a player before he became a dev - he might have played a fire Tank pre-ED.

For reference, Matt 'Positron' Miller on Statesman's death:

Only one spirit on the team?

I think ye be confusing Numina for Sister Psyche.

Though to be fair if War Witch did announce 'the Death of Positron' as the next SSA, I would give a chuckle.

My objection to the demolition of Sister Psyche is that it required use of not only the IDIOT BALL but also a thorough beatdown with the BRAINLESS BAT on The Man WITHOUT A Plan ... Batmanticore.

I mean, seriously ... when he says in the cutscene "I'll do/think of something!" (can't remember the exact phrasing off the top) ... does anyone for even the slightest instant believe him? I sure didn't. Manticore plays out his part in the cutscene like a Deer In The Headlights without even the slightest clue what he might be able to do (let alone what he should have been PREPARED to do ... in advance ... in case something ... anything ... went wrong).

Psyche only got shot after being railroaded by a Killer DM relying on Script Immunity.

Manticore had the core competencies that underpin his entire existence character assassinated out from under him ... and *then* he got railroaded by a Killer DM relying on Script Immunity.



As far as I'm concerned, the *writing* of the whole SSA was spiteful in how it handled multiple characters.

It's the end. But the moment has been prepared for ...