i22 Release date imminent? Lets get excited!


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Where "arbitrary" here means March 6th which is the release date for the third in a very successful space franchise as others have mentioned. A purely coincidental occurrence, of course.


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Hmmmm any big games hitting the shelves this summer so we can get an idea for i23?
I'd imagine a certain sequel of a certain fantasy MMO might be hitting the shelves around this summer.


 

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Where "arbitrary" here means March 6th which is the release date for the third in a very successful space franchise as others have mentioned. A purely coincidental occurrence, of course.
Does that mean they are going to delay i22 'till the 9th in Europe?


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I'd imagine a certain sequel of a certain fantasy MMO might be hitting the shelves around this summer.

Guessing thats the one you was all omg its 1 million now! to me the other night


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The worst part is, the issue feels like it's just being sat on. AFAIK, the patch on the beta server has no show-stopping bugs that players can see. They haven't adjusted any of the Incarnate progression for weeks. It's just sitting there. They could have gone live with it already, but it feels like someone, oh let's say marketing, is holding i22 back for some arbitrary date instead of giving it to people ASAP.


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This is why im waiting to see just what patches happen to go onto beta this week that is stopping it from being released this week. The last couple of patches on there have been next to zero and if they are keeping it purely for the ME3 weekend then yeah i dont like it [Still looking forward to i22 but dont like if its being held purely for that reason]

I know i myself will be splitting my game time between both ME3 and i22 that weekend regardless of if it was released this week or next, so will many other people i think.

Either way im on a CoX burnout at the moment and dont see myself logging in much at all until i22 is here so hurry up i22! xD


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I know i myself will be splitting my game time between both ME3 and i22 that weekend regardless of if it was released this week or next, so will many other people i think.
Splitting? I figure the multiplayer aspect will be a significant factor, so I'll be focusing mostly on that - that's why I decided to pre-order rather than wait for a price drop like last time.


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Splitting? I figure the multiplayer aspect will be a significant factor, so I'll be focusing mostly on that - that's why I decided to pre-order rather than wait for a price drop like last time.

Ah most people i know are like me in that they wait a good while for anything before joining the multiplayer aspect of it all

Each to their own though xD Just what me and people i know are like x)


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It's rather obvious that you have no idea what Black Pebble does.

One thing that he does is take the blame heaped on him by people that don't know what he actually does and he takes that blame without complaint.

He does so even when it is something he had no input on or something where the final outcome was not based on his input.


If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.

Black Pebble is my new hero.

 

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Where "arbitrary" here means March 6th which is the release date for the third in a very successful space franchise as others have mentioned. A purely coincidental occurrence, of course.
So that's I22 competing with a month of releases including ME3, SH: D, SH:HD, SH:BOS and RE:ORC (amongst other competitive titles coming out this month). Today would've been the day to get the most buy-in for re-activated subscriptions thanks to I22 going live. Now it's going to split the player's interest/wallet 5 different ways in competition with these other titles. Not a good idea... As it stands, it's probably best to wait and check back for I22 in April. There'll be too many other things to play with while Marketing is pumping ads into the pipeline.


And may I say I completely disagree with the comment about firing Black Pebble. That's totally inappropriate. Whatever your disappointment, a setback in release schedule is not a reason to wish someone be put out of work. I suggest you revisit your priorities in life if you think a game is more important than one person's ability to stay employed.


 

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I'd imagine a certain sequel of a certain fantasy MMO might be hitting the shelves around this summer.
Damz said BIG games, not crappy poorly-implemented remakes of games that were crappy and poorly-implemented when they were released 9 years ago.

Seriously... that was one of the worst games I have ever had the displeasure of playing, and I've not played an entry in that long-running franchise since.


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SH:HD, SH:BOS
I wouldn't qualify the first one there as a hot title, since it's a remake of two games that most people who would want to have already played. And I have no idea what the second one is, despite working part time at a GameStop and being forc--ahem, "politely insisted"--to push customers on reserves.

Not arguing the others, though I'd probably add ToGf and maybe KI:U to that list.


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As someone who has worked in the industry, I can honestly say that there is a very strict release schedule, and sometimes, the patches for us to test is not the only thing being worked on, such as prepping servers for such a release, making sure everything is compatible on the server side. This is a huge undertaking.

It may seem like devs are sitting on an issue, when they want to make sure that no players will have crashes or lose data. Believe me, when the game I worked on had patches, it would be almost an all nighter making sure servers stayed up, that having something that worked so well on a beta test didn't implode under the weight of being on live, that all aspects were equal on all live servers. What we see and what we play is such a small portion of what goes into this game.

As for Black Pebble, the man is amazing, I honestly am shocked at people who seem to think that anything that THEY don't like in the game is something to blame on him. Marketing does more than just say when to release an issue, or send out emails. It's coordination with websites, constant phone calls, verifying content, having such an exacting eye about everything, not to mention having to coordinate with the art team to get everything out. You think those splash screens every week for what's new in the market are easy to pull off?

We will get I22, when it's ready to come out of the oven, the timer is close to zero, as we know, so let's treat it like a souffle... No screaming or it might just collapse before we can enjoy it.

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I wouldn't qualify the first one there as a hot title, since it's a remake of two games that most people who would want to have already played. And I have no idea what the second one is, despite working part time at a GameStop and being forc--ahem, "politely insisted"--to push customers on reserves.

Not arguing the others, though I'd probably add ToGf and maybe KI:U to that list.
It's an exclusive SH title for Vita.


 

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It's rather obvious that you have no idea what Black Pebble does.

One thing that he does is take the blame heaped on him by people that don't know what he actually does and he takes that blame without complaint.

He does so even when it is something he had no input on or something where the final outcome was not based on his input.
He's marketing Guru aint he. I know what job marketing people are suppose to do he doesn't do that. He may be your hero but all that means is your opinion is biased.


 

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And may I say I completely disagree with the comment about firing Black Pebble. That's totally inappropriate. Whatever your disappointment, a setback in release schedule is not a reason to wish someone be put out of work. I suggest you revisit your priorities in life if you think a game is more important than one person's ability to stay employed.
Why can't I buy a single costume slot for one character for a cheap price of say 50pp instead I have to buy an unlock for all my toon for a price between $6-$10 what happened to the micro part. Why does the game have no advertisement when I see all over the internet adds for crappy MMOs that have nothing on this game. Why does the super tailor cost as much as the whole science booster pack when they sold those.

Marketing from Webster

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a:the act or process of selling or purchasing in a market
b:the process or technique of promoting, selling, and distributing a product or service

2: an aggregate of functions involved in moving goods from producer to consumer


 

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I wish him to be fired cause he is terrible at his job I say that about anyone that is awful at what they do. I have gotten people fired at my place of employment and never once felt bad about it. Incompetence has no play in the workplace.
What a coincidence! I've called anonymous internet tough guys out on their stupidity before and never once felt bad about it.

How does it feel to be so impotent that even your ranting on a videogame forum can't be taken seriously?

Fortunately, your ignorant and selfish desire to see Black Pebble fired will be utterly ignored.

Rather like most of your other desires, I imagine.


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Great Statesman's Ghost, you went there.

Paging Hyperstrike's facepalm, you are requested in this thread. Paging Hyperstrike's facepalm...


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-rant about nothing-
All right, who pissed in his Cheerios?


 

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He's in Marketing. He's not the one that makes all of the Marketing decisions. Sometimes, Marketing people propose an idea that those above them shoot down. It was happening with this game long before Black Pebble was hired. Marketing in the game industry is often a bit different from what players think it is supposed to be or what it might be in a different industry.

There are some things that have been changed for the better for players based partially on Black Pebble's input. He's had several open conversations with players in Beta soliciting feedback about things he saw being discussed in global channels and taken that input back to the rest of the Devs. Some of it has resulted in things being changed for the better.

As for the line in my signature, well, that goes back over a year. One of these days I'll put up the information behind it and that link will be a clickable link. Then it will be clearer for you.

Again, you don't know what his job is, you merely think you know.

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Why can't I buy a single costume slot for one character for a cheap price of say 50pp instead I have to buy an unlock for all my toon for a price between $6-$10 what happened to the micro part. Why does the game have no advertisement when I see all over the internet adds for crappy MMOs that have nothing on this game. Why does the super tailor cost as much as the whole science booster pack when they sold those.
I'll say it again, you have no idea what his job is.

Let's just look at one of the items you brought up and what Ghost Falcon had to say about it:

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It would be extremely difficult to have the store recognize a per character purchase versus a per account purchase pricing strategy for a singular costume piece.

Taken another way, if you bought the singular costume piece for a single character only, but then later decided you wanted it available account-wide, should you/would you get a discount because you previously purchased it for your single character?

The thought of that proposition gives me a headache, and I imagine would give customer service, our community team and a whole bunch of other people a migraine to explain to customers.

To put it diplomatically, a per-character-costume-unlock via a Paragon Market purchase is not on any plan or schedule. If it did come up in any meeting, I would silently deep-six it underneath other desired features, items or services.
That's not Marketing, that's the Business Manager. Ghost Falcon is the one tracking the Market, watching and adjusting prices, putting up the sales, etc. Sure, Marketing has input on it, as do many others, but they don't strictly control pricing or what items are available. I don't think Ghost Falcon has strict control of it either, but from reading his posts it's rather clear that he is the one handling much of the Paragon Market.

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Marketing from Webster

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a:the act or process of selling or purchasing in a market
b:the process or technique of promoting, selling, and distributing a product or service

2: an aggregate of functions involved in moving goods from producer to consumer

Sorry but he is bad at those no two ways about it
Again, Marketing in the game industry is often a bit different from what players think it is supposed to be or what it might be in a different industry. I'm sure they do some of the same things as well.

Again, Black Pebble doesn't get final say in making Marketing decisions. Considering the past history before he was hired, Marketing decisions haven't changed much in this game from what they are now. So are you blaming him for the same decisions that were made before he was hired?

Your blame is misdirected.

And yet, Black Pebble sits back and silently lets people rant and blame him for things he isn't the one responsible for. He does that regularly.


If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.

Black Pebble is my new hero.

 

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All right, who pissed in his Cheerios?
Only times I've seen rants like that is when someone was pissed the newest hire got promoted over the ranter, and the other time was when someone was given an assistant to train only to learn at the end of training that the assistant was being given his job for half the pay and he was fired.


 

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I'm just wondering what illustrious position someone with his spelling and grammar held in the first place.
Probably a management position.


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