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Discussion: Announcing the City of Heroes Freedom VIP Head Start! September 13, 2011

2short2care

By 2short2care,
Posted on: 2011-09-09 24:19 in News, Events and Announcement Discussion

 

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fparn?
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Okay, so NOW I have a deadline for my trailer...

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I have a dental visit on the 13th... So that isn't going to help.

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Yep, and that other person who has Jury duty that day as well.

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Well, all I'm going to say is I'll find out on the 13th (or 14th, depending on if the servers are playable on the 13th) whether or not I'm going to resub for a full year.

I know the Freedom beta forums said there were going to be final adjustments to the pricing scheme, but until I see what the final Paragon Market prices are, I won't commit to more than month to month right now.

For those who didn't go to those forums, the reason I say this is because, currently, VIP members, although the rewards sound nice, get shafted. 400 points + 1 transfer token + 1 reward token + 1 signature arc sounds great, but, when you look at the pricing, 400 points is barely worth anything on the market. Meanwhile, if you spent $15 a month buying points, you get 1200 points + 1 reward token. So you'll have to pay for some things VIPs get free, but that's a one time purchase and you're done.

1 transfer token and 1 signature arc per month are pointless. How many toons are you going to transfer? Most people I talk to are quite happy with where their toons are and have no intention of transferring elsewhere. 1 signature story arc would matter if there's a new arc every month, but there's no way that's going to be the case.

Under the last known pricing scheme, people who pay to be VIPs are at a significant disadvantage to people who buy their points every month.

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Originally Posted by Captiosus View Post
So you'll have to pay for some things VIPs get free, but that's a one time purchase and you're done.
Some things aren't one-time purchases: Access to IOs, AE and the Consignment House is through 30-day renewable licensing.

Some things aren't purchaseable at all: All Incarnate content, including currently slotted powers, is available only to VIPs. Tier 9 VIP rewards are only available to VIPs.

 

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1 signature story arc would matter if there's a new arc every month, but there's no way that's going to be the case.
That is going to be the case actually, it's been said numerous times.

VIP status also gives you access to things you can't buy: Incarnates.

Additionally, it's a monthly 'license' purchase for Premiums to get IO access, Market access, and AE access (and rewards) until certain points in the Paragon Rewards shrubbery.

VIPs also get an upgrade to 550 points per month somewhere in, IIRC, tier 8.

VIP also includes 6 ATs unlocked, $15 apiece (that's six months of sub time), four of which never get unlocked by the Shrub. All the Going Rogue content (including 4 powersets) which I haven't even bothered to total in points (but it's a lot). Access to some new powersets for free (Time Manipulation for now). Access to all the new First Ward content for free. Access to two of the new costume sets for free. Access to the VIP tier of the Shrub. There's a lot to the subscription that you aren't counting here, and this is by no means an exhaustive list.

By the way, the rewards for completing those sig. arcs are sick.

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Thanks for the announcement, but I do have a question.

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And if that wasn't enough, all our VIP players will receive:
  • A Respec Token per existing character (make sure you've used up your free Respec token if you already had one, they don't stack!)
Can we get some detail on the precise timing of these freespecs?

I'm assuming that the launch of Freedom includes the bit that allows us to select Epic/Patron pools at level 35, and I would definitely like to respec my characters to take advantage of that. But I can't do that until after the patch, so I'm hoping you won't be handing out the new freespecs until several days later.

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Pretty excited that I randomly decided to take a vacation (starting on 9/12) to basically sit around the house and do nothing for 8 days.

 

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Yay won't be long till we can start riding the noobies as horses. LOL j/k

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If one auto-renews monthly for a year, for $180 they get:
  • 12 month's subscription ($180)
  • 13 Reward Tokens doled out once a month (the extra is for the yearly Token)
  • 400 Paragon Points doled out once a month


If one buys a year in advance, and with the savings, buys Paragon Points, and in doing so, get enough Tokens to bump themselves up to Tier 9, they get:
  • 12 month's subscription ($143.40)
  • 13 Reward Tokens doled out RITE NAO
I just wanted to point out that if you buy a subscription, you get all of your Reward Tokens up front...it's only the Paragon Points that are doled out once a month (on your "billing day", which is the same day each month even if you buy a multi-month sub).
Right. But in the first scenario, you're on one-month auto-renew. You're paying just one month at a time, so, you only get one Token per month.

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Right. But in the first scenario, you're on one-month auto-renew. You're paying just one month at a time, so, you only get one Token per month.
Think I'll stick with month to month until any lingering store problems are ironed out.

 

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Decided to find as exhaustive a list as possible of the benefits of being a VIP to assuage the naysayers.

Courtesy of ParagonWiki:

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VIP Exclusives
  • Access to Incarnate content, powers and drops.
  • Access to VIP Server
  • Monthly Stipend of Paragon Points
  • Ability to Create or Moderate Global Chat Channels
  • Create Supergroups
  • Edit Supergroup Bases
  • Ability to access Tier 9 VIP exclusives within the Paragon Rewards Program
  • Post on the Official Forums
  • Priority Server Queueing
  • Premium In-Game Customer Support

Included
  • Immediate Access to 10 Archetypes (Blaster, Brute, Controller, Corruptor, Defender, Dominator, Mastermind, Scrapper, Stalker and Tanker)
  • Access to Epic Archetypes: Peacebringer, Warshade, Arachnos Soldier and Arachnos Widow Archetypes (once unlocked)
  • 150+ Power Sets
  • 12 Character Slots on each server
  • Create costumes from billions of combinations
  • Play as a Hero or Villain from Level 1 to 50
  • Play in 50+ different game zones
  • Join Supergroups
  • Access all Communication Channels
  • Inf cap of 2 Billion per character
  • Player-to-Player Trading
  • Reward Drops including small, medium and large Inspirations, Training (TO), Dual-Origin (DO), Single-Origin (SO) and Special Enhancements
  • Ability to earn Reward Merits
  • Ability to earn Vanguard Merits (subject to Prerequisites)
  • Invention License
  • Mission Architect License
  • Auction House License
  • Alignment system access
  • Praetoria access
  • Praetorian Character Creation
  • Going Rogue Power Sets: Dual Pistols, Kinetic Melee, Electric Control, and Demon Summoning
  • Going Rogue Costume Sets
  • Ability to buy anything from the Paragon Market
  • Read the Official Forums

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Yeah, this is very exciting...unless you are a Mac based player!

Just so you all know, based on what's currently on the beta server, the game is pretty much useless for a Mac user at this point. In the Paragon Store half the type is missing or unreadable, prolonged use of the Paragon Store crashes the game for many if not all of us (that couldn't really be tested very well during beta as for most of the time we could not access the store at all) and lastly the NCSoft launcher will not start the game again after you use the Paragon Store, unless you dig deep into the guts of your folder system and throw out your COH Beta Preferences folder (yes, that also resets all you finely tuned graphics options to the default).

Over in the Mac forums (a friendly place that few ever visit) we were assured by Zwillinger that Freedom would not launch with this issue in place. This imminent release date puts that assurance in doubt.

I know that this probably does not matter to most of you at this point (and frankly I'd be thrilled too if it weren't for this problem), but I just want you to be aware that this announcement is not all sunshine for some of us.

And yes, there are still 4 days left to pleasantly surprise us with a fix, but as of now, based on a post by Zwillinger (who kindly has kept us in the loop), there is no solution in place yet.

 

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Originally Posted by Captiosus View Post
For those who didn't go to those forums, the reason I say this is because, currently, VIP members, although the rewards sound nice, get shafted.
I wonder if I'm going to miss these posts, like the hundred uses for MoG posts or whatever Mieux would have been belittling me over at this point in time.

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I just hope it doesn't take six to seven hours to download this patch. Some people only have access to DSL level broadband speed of only 7-15MBpm.

I miss the days when we can prefetch a week or more before an issue launch.
This +a bajillion. Some of us happen to have third-world Internet - in my case, 1M/128k with a 40GB monthly quota. Can a redname give us any idea of the size of the download and if there's any possible way to prefetch it?

 

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This +a bajillion. Some of us happen to have third-world Internet - in my case, 1M/128k with a 40GB monthly quota. Can a redname give us any idea of the size of the download and if there's any possible way to prefetch it?
Going by the download on Test server yesterday, it could be over 2GB.

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Originally Posted by Lazarillo View Post
Unless I'm mistaken, it shouldn't make a difference.
Let's say September 14th is your two year anniversary of playing the game. In that case, on the 13th, you'll get:
~7 tokens in compensation for vet rewards.
~1 token for your 1 year anniversary.
Then, the next day, you'll get:
~1 token as your monthly bonus.
~1 token as your yearly bonus.
So you'll have 10 total.

Let's move the anniversary back to the 12th. You'll get:
~8 tokens in compensation for vet rewards.
~2 tokens for your 2 years of bonuses.
And still have 10 total.
What about the free character slot you get for each year? Has that just vanished? I have just one unlocked slot on Defiant and I was saving that for my 72mth reward slot.

 

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Originally Posted by Xenos View Post
Yeah, this is very exciting...unless you are a Mac based player!

Just so you all know, based on what's currently on the beta server, the game is pretty much useless for a Mac user at this point. In the Paragon Store half the type is missing or unreadable, prolonged use of the Paragon Store crashes the game for many if not all of us (that couldn't really be tested very well during beta as for most of the time we could not access the store at all) and lastly the NCSoft launcher will not start the game again after you use the Paragon Store, unless you dig deep into the guts of your folder system and throw out your COH Beta Preferences folder (yes, that also resets all you finely tuned graphics options to the default).

Over in the Mac forums (a friendly place that few ever visit) we were assured by Zwillinger that Freedom would not launch with this issue in place. This imminent release date puts that assurance in doubt.

I know that this probably does not matter to most of you at this point (and frankly I'd be thrilled too if it weren't for this problem), but I just want you to be aware that this announcement is not all sunshine for some of us.

And yes, there are still 4 days left to pleasantly surprise us with a fix, but as of now, based on a post by Zwillinger (who kindly has kept us in the loop), there is no solution in place yet.
I am a mac player too. And I am very sad that no one seems to care that much about us.

 

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Originally Posted by Zwillinger View Post
Yep, and that other person who has Jury duty that day as well.

VENGEANCE SHALL BE YOURS!
GRIN!!!!! Wow, Zwillinger, remembered that post of mine...thank you

I must confess I was sort of down in the mouth when I saw the Head Start date is the 13th, but then I read this, and I dissolved into gales of laughter

I wrote that post when I was not in the best of moods and I think I wanted to vent my frustration of everything good happening when I am at work and when I am off there seems to be long maintenance periods...and I was also off my feed about Double XP weekend.

I do hope nobody thinks I would really act that way....tempting, but I am a horrible Care Bear and even though I might at times resent being at Duty Duty on my precious days off, and, especially when Head Start is being released, I do realize that serving on a jury is an honor and it is a way to make a difference in someone's life..Whether it be helping prove them innocent, or..well..if they are guilty throwing them into the Hoosegow might be the push they need to change their life.

And, once again I miss the good stuff, the opening kickoff so to speak...I am indeed cursed

But, Jury Duty is indeed a higher calling, so I guess I am semi-cursed

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