Discussion: Announcing the City of Heroes Freedom VIP Head Start! September 13, 2011
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Posted on: 2011-09-09 24:19 in News, Events and Announcement Discussion
Does this mean they got the store up n running for Mac users???
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Unfortunately, it isn't faster for everyone. I'm not sure what the hold up is for some (internet, ISP, local, whatever) but several people have reported the NCSoft Launcher to be slower than the old CoHLauncher.|
Originally Posted by Lothic
I've noticed that the current NCSoft Launcher is so many times quicker than the original one for any download that I'm not sure how important the whole pre-downloading concept would be with it.
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Considering the number of people reporting problems even getting the NCSoft Launcher to even work in the tech help section... I wouldn't hold my breath for a smooth launch for the big picture.
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Originally Posted by Blackleviathan
Does this mean they got the store up n running for Mac users???
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I think it means that a 2 week delay from the scheduled release date is long enough without the extra income from the store |
Originally Posted by Blackleviathan
Does this mean they got the store up n running for Mac users???
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It's hard to imagine, yes, but I'm not going to make assumptions about their code. It may be that CoH uses the launcher differently than NCSoft's other games, because the legacy launcher functioned differently. It may be that they've decided that the pre-release patch isn't necessary because the launcher is faster for so many of us. There may be other perfectly valid reasons that CoH doesn't use the Launcher's pre-release patch download functionality. Whether or not the Launcher is faster for the bulk of us, there are still people on limited speeds or bandwidth that would greatly appreciate having at least a few days to download the patch before it goes Live. I'm not one of those that needs the pre-download, but I can sympathize for those who do.
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Originally Posted by Lothic
It's hard to imagine why CoH wouldn't be "compatible" with such a feature. We're just talking about a specific set of game files that would have to be patched in a similar way for -any- game. Regardless I've noticed that the current NCSoft Launcher is so many times quicker than the original one for any download that I'm not sure how important the whole pre-downloading concept would be with it.
I suppose after next week we'll know for sure one way or the other.  |
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Originally Posted by Lothic
It is quite literally the "squeaky wheel" of this game which has siphoned away far more of the Devs' energies than it could ever reasonably justify from a cost/benefit point of view.
Long story short: It was taking far too much time to fix given the relatively few number of players who actually use it. From an engineering point of view it became the obvious candidate to de-prioritize in order to get the rest of the show on the road. Now I'm fairly sure the Devs are going to continue to do their best to get this "problem child" up and working ASAP. But to be perfectly blunt despite what Zwillinger said it seems pretty straightforward to me why they couldn't afford to waste any more time on it prior to Issue 21's launch. Hopefully it won't take too long... |
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Literally? As in, you believe Macs are composed of gears in need of oiling?|
Originally Posted by Lothic
It is quite literally the "squeaky wheel" of this game which has siphoned away far more of the Devs' energies than it could ever reasonably justify from a cost/benefit point of view.
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Really, if you're going to take it upon yourself to speak on behalf of Zwillinger and the Devs - and please do cite your sources when you talk about Paragon's cost/benefit ratios - at least put your rhetoric in order.
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My thanks for the sympathy - it's going to be painful to have to load this up on Tuesday. I anticipate at least a day downloading before I can actually play the game, given my massive 1Mbs download and the fact that the launcher almost never gets up to the full possible speed when patching, at least thus far. Sigh.
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Originally Posted by Darkfaith
It's hard to imagine, yes, but I'm not going to make assumptions about their code. It may be that CoH uses the launcher differently than NCSoft's other games, because the legacy launcher functioned differently. It may be that they've decided that the pre-release patch isn't necessary because the launcher is faster for so many of us. There may be other perfectly valid reasons that CoH doesn't use the Launcher's pre-release patch download functionality. Whether or not the Launcher is faster for the bulk of us, there are still people on limited speeds or bandwidth that would greatly appreciate having at least a few days to download the patch before it goes Live. I'm not one of those that needs the pre-download, but I can sympathize for those who do.
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That sucks for Mac users but there is a reason some call it Macintrash. Macs aren't for gaming and that is one fact. The majority of games are built for Windows.
Macs are for photo editing and other type of editing software. It is the best at it. Personally, if I were a graphics designer, music composer, etc, I'd be using a Mac.
This doesn't mean things shouldn't be fixed at some point. However, being a small majority your issues won't get fixed as fast.
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This is actually many many years an outdated belief.|
Originally Posted by Ultimus
That sucks for Mac users but there is a reason some call it Macintrash. Macs aren't for gaming and that is one fact. The majority of games are built for Windows.
Macs are for photo editing and other type of editing software. It is the best at it. Personally, if I were a graphics designer, music composer, etc, I'd be using a Mac. |
PC hardware is equivalent-to-better than Mac and has been for years, at a substantially better cost-to-performance ratio to boot.
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ok this is B...S... my account is playable up until the 13th it says and they do this and close the dang on store so i cant get more time so how will i be able to play for the weeks that are to come i have it linked to my card to pay every month and now since this happened idk if i am going to be able to play and i have 2 years worth of time and if i cant play then it is highly disappointing because i have a scheduled payment on that day so what happens in this case?
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Are you getting your argument fresh from 1998? These days, if I want to play a Windows-only game on my Mac, I'll restart it in Windows via Apple's Boot Camp, assuming I don't want to use a virtualized OS environment.|
Originally Posted by Ultimus
That sucks for Mac users but there is a reason some call it Macintrash. Macs aren't for gaming and that is one fact.
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The up-to-date fact is that if Paragon Studios can't produce a working Mac client even using Cider in time for the "VIP Head Start" launch, then that failure will not only speak volumes about their technical abilities and resources, but also relegate paying customers from VIPs to POSs.
I of course hope the devs are able to provide for their OS X customers. It would be a shame to add this to their ongoing list of unfixed bugs, e.g. the forum logout and the AE filter.
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As my friend once said at the height of the "Hi, I'm a Mac/Hi, I'm a PC" commercials: "There's one area that PCs make road pizza of Macs...gaming."|
Originally Posted by Ultimus
That sucks for Mac users but there is a reason some call it Macintrash. Macs aren't for gaming and that is one fact. The majority of games are built for Windows.
Macs are for photo editing and other type of editing software. It is the best at it. Personally, if I were a graphics designer, music composer, etc, I'd be using a Mac. This doesn't mean things shouldn't be fixed at some point. However, being a small majority your issues won't get fixed as fast. |
Let's face it, how many of us remember going into computer stores back in the 90's and go into the gaming section, where we'd see row after row of PC games. Then we'd get to the back wall and see one small section labeled "Mac Games" - often just seperate versions of PC games.
There has to be a point where once it's ready to roll, it should not be held up for a select group.
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Originally Posted by omni_breaker911
ok this is B...S... my account is playable up until the 13th it says and they do this and close the dang on store so i cant get more time so how will i be able to play for the weeks that are to come i have it linked to my card to pay every month and now since this happened idk if i am going to be able to play and i have 2 years worth of time and if i cant play then it is highly disappointing because i have a scheduled payment on that day so what happens in this case?
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i did it says my card is on the account and it will renew on the 13th and it isnt letting me select more time just says|
Originally Posted by Cayenne
Go to your NCSoft account, and you can buy time there. Buying time with PayPal adds it to your account right now, but you can also subscribe using a credit card.
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Sep 13, 2011 beast911 City of Heroes® 1 Month and has a CANCEL BILLING
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A bit confused, as a VIP, will I be able to transfer my toons to the Exalted server for free or I will I have to spend PPoints to do so?
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Same price as any other server transfer. However you do get 1 free transfer a month as a VIP.
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Originally Posted by Iggylove
A bit confused, as a VIP, will I be able to transfer my toons to the Exalted server for free or I will I have to spend PPoints to do so?
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As a VIP, you'll get one free transfer per month - ant other transfers will have to be paid for.
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Originally Posted by Iggylove
A bit confused, as a VIP, will I be able to transfer my toons to the Exalted server for free or I will I have to spend PPoints to do so?
~Iggy |
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what are you worried about then? You will be a VIP and it will auto bill you for next month.
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Originally Posted by omni_breaker911
i did it says my card is on the account and it will renew on the 13th and it isnt letting me select more time just says
Scheduled Payments Next Bill Date Account Name Game Billing Plan Sep 13, 2011 beast911 City of Heroes® 1 Month and has a CANCEL BILLING option |
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i was just worried cause if they stopped the time thing they might change it but i guess i am in the clear hopefully if not i will be very upset with it ... but in this case i hope it does auto renew
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Originally Posted by Thany144
what are you worried about then? You will be a VIP and it will auto bill you for next month.
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I am getting pretty excited about it.......I have to work that day and all but that's okay cause lets face it the servers will be down till well after I get off LOL
Ps. Paragon folks can you Please post eastern standard times when you post thing as well as pacific?
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Yeah, I gotta agree with that. The Beta price list I've seen is really kinda insane on some points. $10 for a costume slot, 800 points? Yeeesh.
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Originally Posted by venombeyond82
I'm really, really worried about what the prices are going to be for the Paragon store. We've heard some things have changed, and some things have not. I see there are "Sales" going on for items so far, but none of which I had hoped there would be a sale on. A few things from the old prices are so amazingly expensive, that it doesn't seem worth it in the least, and I'm praying some of those went down in price to make them actually affordable and worth the cost of actual money, and not that I have to wait 14 months just to get enough, and nothing ELSE just to get them.
I love everything about Issue 21 and Freedom, just the old prices scare me greatly, and I truly hope the new ones are worth it. I'd hate to have to leave the game, on the ideal that all Paragon Studios cares about is $5 and $10-ing people, rather than nickle and dime-ing. |
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Intriguing...|
Originally Posted by Red Valkyrja
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That I would celebrate with, once the video is finished.
That or a glass of a really, really good red wine. Hmmm. Maybe I should buy myself a bottle as incentive for finishing this thing.
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While I agree that the costume slot price is perhaps a bit high, we should also keep in mind that the price is for newly-added slots 6-10, and slots 2-5 are still opened in the regular fashion. And if I'm not mistaken, each slot purchased from the Market opens the extra slot for every character, which may justify the cost.
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Originally Posted by Feycat
Yeah, I gotta agree with that. The Beta price list I've seen is really kinda insane on some points. $10 for a costume slot, 800 points? Yeeesh.
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That is correct. Costume slots purchased from the Market are global.
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Originally Posted by Tenzhi
While I agree that the costume slot price is perhaps a bit high, we should also keep in mind that the price is for newly-added slots 6-10, and slots 2-5 are still opened in the regular fashion. And if I'm not mistaken, each slot purchased from the Market opens the extra slot for every character, which may justify the cost.
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I suppose after next week we'll know for sure one way or the other.
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