Would you pay for an Incarnate booster pack? I would

/signed. I had something to say about this in the forums already, but the short version is that gating content like this is wrong, and I've seen it go wrong before in other games. As others have said, this game was about the journey, not the destination.

And that applied to everything, including how you got to 50. Even the highest tier abilities in Epics and Patrons had choice behind them, and you weren't disadvantaged if you didn't take them.

I don't like being steered at something like Trials (which I can't get into in all honesty, I just can't...even when it's 'just for an hour') and told 'this is the only way you'll get this, this and this.' That's not incentivising, that's denying any choice other than not to do it.

Other options should be up on the table, really. And for what it's worth, I resented the comment that having the shiny armor is something you can wear and show off to other players that you've been doing the Trials. I've been through that syndrome on fantasy MMO's where people have hardcore grinded the latest gear with all the best stats on it and it frankly does not belong here, Positron.


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I think that's probably the biggest bugbear you're seeing from people.

The Ascension armour...fine..that can be Incarnate, it is worthy of being a reward for gaining Incarnatedom, to show off to people that 'I can haz Incarnate!' to put it in Lolcat terms. I'll still think the level 50 restriction is stupid BUT I can live with that quite easily.

Everything else..the basic emotes (really...the ability to swoon or collapse is common to all people..not just the super powered demi-gods), the auras (why would you need to be an Incarnate to ooze slime?), the costume change emotes (alright...I'll admit the Nuke costume Change IS badass but the others...eh...) and the Chest symbols (yes because you need to be an Incarnate to paint two guns on your chest...) are all REALLY non-incarnatey stuff, they're very basic stuff.

As I said before, it really like they just pulled whatever they had laying around the office in terms of pieces, probably for an 'in the works' mini-booster (like the Origin or Party park) and instead dumped it into the Incarnate system. They clearly weren't built from the ground up like the Ascension armour was.

Actually, that's probably it, they were pushed for time, they'd mentioned a 'new and exciting rewards' for running the Trials and realised they had one set of armour....and that was it but they want to keep people grinding the trials...and well the rest was mentioned above.

Ditch them from the Incarnate rewards system, keep the Ascension Armour in there for now, either make them freely available as an update OR sell them as they were obviously originally intended to be, as a booster pack.

Alright the amount of stuff if you include all the auras, the costume emotes, the emotes and the chest pieces I'd say it'd be fair to probably tack on an extra few bucks.

To be fair, I know this isn't going to happen, they're not going to change a damn thing because they want people to keep grinding the trials so they can look better for their NCsoft bosses rather than the playerbase.

I love the rest of the changes they've done with the Incarnate system, I love the Incarnate system, it's made my tanker even more awesome but...yeah...the Incarnate 'rewards' besides the Ascension armour...really shouldn't be there and if they remain...well it'll kind of show which direction the devs want to move this game in.

Overall, I agree with you. The powers we've been getting with Booster packs aren't outwardly problematic... For the most part. However, you touch on a problem that I feel is more important than you let on - these are permanent additions. One or two or three don't really matter, but we're starting to amass an amazing quantity of these things.

When GvE came out, I had no problem with the GvE jump pack because while it helped with jump and ESPECIALLY with fly, it was fairly limited. But now we have the Steam Jump pack. It's still relatively limited and not all that problematic... But now I have both of them. This has the potential to give me a LOT more special jump buff than either could separately.

This is actually somewhat compounded by Veteran Reward powers. At the very moment of character creation, each of my characters are born with over two bars of powers not associated with their build. I have three attacks, a self-rez good enough to put Revive/Resurgence to shame, three different teleporters, three different pets, two mutually-exclusive travel powers, extra experience gain, a self buff and a few other odds and ends that I don't care to mention. Sure, for some of these powers you have to wait until level 4, but at level 4 my characters have more powers than Launch characters would have had at the level cap.

Booster Pack powers are not a zero-sum game. They add up. The more Boosters we see, the more of a power stockpile our characters will be created with, and that could easily become problematic over time. The reason I feel that Booster Pack powers are all-caps-exclamation BAD isn't so much because of the powers themselves - they're mostly OK. It's because I dislike the PRACTICE of including powers in Booster packs, as these powers enter our inventories and they never leave. Sooner or later, this has to blow out somewhere.

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Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

I would happily pay for a booster pack containing these costume parts.

I have purchased all of the booster packs. A previous poster asked if purchasers would mind seeing in-game paths for unlocking those booster items. I would not mind that one bit. The more inclusive, the better, as far as I'm concerned.