Would you pay for an Incarnate booster pack? I would

Would I pay for it? Honestly, probably not.

The only piece I particularly want is the Ascension boots and those are cheap enough to get in-game.

And now you know why I insist on paying for all my costume pieces. Because if I don't, they'll stick them behind some asinine unlock. I would sooner pay for my cosmetic additions than have to unlock them in-game. I do not consider cosmetic items as something that should be gated, and I never will. I will always prefer to pay money for them than to grind to unlock them.

So when's that Rularuu Pack coming out?

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Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

Would I pay for an incarnate booster? Erm no, paying a tenner to gain stuff designated as Incarnate would be silly.

Do I think some of the items designated as "Incarnate" really aren't and should be available more easily (such as the Auras). Yes. At the moment it looks like the Devs just took whatever auras and emotes were lying around and decided to arbitarily gate them behind Emp and Astral merits with no real logic to it.

Do I think the costs are too high currently? Yes, but I suspect the devs think that too and this is just their "opening bid".

Do I think there should be a non-trial way to earn Astral Merits? Absolutely. WSF's should probably be rejigged to allow access to Threads, Components, iXP and Astral Merits (via an Incarnate setting for them as people like EvilGecko have already suggested).

I have to agree with the consensus... I don't wanna grind even more to unlock the cossie pieces.

Costume pieces should not be unlockables. Powers and such sure, but not character appearance. Its really daft, having to play to 50 and grind for weeks to finally realise that concept you have in your head.

I would rather have to earn it so it sets the haves apart from the have-nots.

Ok, since no ones actually posted the prices yet, and people are already throwing accusations of whining and suchnot around, have a gander at the list from BETA;

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Originally Posted by Dispari Unlock Alpha: 25 astrals Incarnate Shard Voucher: 1 astral for 1 shard Incarnate Thread Voucher: 1 astral for 1 thread Unlock Capes: 10 astrals Unlock Auras: 10 astrals Reward Merit: 1 astrao for 1 reward merit Ascension (Basic) Costume Parts: Ascension Belt - 100 Boots - 100 Cape - 100 Emblem - 100 Gloves - 100 Mask - 100 Shoulders - 100 Full Set: 700 Auras: Binary - 25 Boils - 25 Fairy Dust - 25 Feathers - 25 Ghosts - 25 Magnetic - 25 Pixels - 25 Slime - 25 Full Set: 200 Emblems: Bar Code - 4 DNA - 4 Alpha - 4 Sword - 4 Full Set: 16 Inspirations: Super (except Ultimate): 1 Ultimate: 2 Rare Recipes: 16-32 LotG Unique: 32 PS Proc: 16 Numina Unique: 32 Stealth Uniques: 32 ------------------------------ Incarnate Thread Voucher: 1 emp merit for 4 threads Astral: 1 emp for 1 astrals Ascension Radiance Costume Parts: Belt - 25 Boots - 25 Emblem - 25 Gloves - 25 Mask - 25 Shoulders - 25 Full Set: 150 Ascension (Basic) Costume Parts: Ascension Belt - 10 Boots - 10 Cape - 10 Emblem - 10 Gloves - 10 Mask - 10 Shoulders - 10 Full Set: 70 Auras: Binary - 5 Boils - 5 Fairy Dust - 5 Feathers - 5 Ghosts - 5 Magnetic - 5 Pixels - 5 Slime - 5 Full Set: 40 Emblems: Flame Emblem - 1 Guns Crossed Emblem - 1 Incarnate Destiny - 1 Incarnate Interface - 1 Incarnate Judgement - 1 Incarnate Lore - 1 Mushroom Cloud - 1 Music Note 1 - 1 Music Note 2 - 1 Rune - 1 Swords Crossed - 1 Full Set: 11 Trail Auras: Bubbles - 10 Cloud - 10 Cloud and Lightning - 10 Electric - 10 Frost - 10 Rainbow - 10 Full Set: 60 Costume Change Emotes: Fireworks - 10 Ice Block - 10 Nuke - 10 Pure Energy - 10 Stone Block - 10 Full Set: 50 Emotes: Catch Breath - 5 Collapse - 5 Swoon - 5 Ultimate Power - 5 Full Set: 20 PvP Recipes: 50 - 70 merits RES unique - 70 DEF uinque - 60 Panacea HP/end - 70

First set is in Astrals, Second in Empyreans. Hope you like the grind, ladies and gents, because it costs 401 emp merits to get the entire set of glowy Acension armour. Yes, those costs are per PIECE, not the entire set. The same goes for auras and emotes; the above cost unlocks ONE out of the many.

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Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

Kind of steep for a friggin' costume change and Emote. Personally, I don't mind using Astral Merits for costume pieces and auras since that can be tied to the path to becoming an Incarnate. I would support this as a booster pack but only if it was not available until the Alpha Slot is unlocked and possibly slotted.

This discussion really belongs in the beta boards.

They're looking for feedback on the prices of these things, so if you have something to say, go and tell them. Prices are subject to change, and that isn't going to happen if all the discussion about it is in a thread asking for a booster on the general boards.

I am sure the prices will greatly come down. I may would purchase this as a booster, but it would greatly depend on the final cost of the stuff in the system.

I would rather boosters be things that are new to the game all together.

I'll have the Ascension Armor quicker than the Vanguard Pieces (I worked most of the time when Mothership Raids were held)

Also I want to note:

This system being designed for the hardcore player?

It is just as optional as anything else in the game. You don't HAVE to take part in it if you don't want to. Just as you don't HAVE to buy the booster packs, you don't HAVE to PvP. Hell, for that matter you don't HAVE to level your character, there is absolutely nothing preventing you from stanidng around in Atlas Park at level 1 forever if you decide that's what you want to do.

So many people are saying "The devs are FORCING us to do stuff we don't like!".

No, they really aren't. If you don't want to do something...DON'T DO IT.

Just because something is introduced to teh game does not mean that is the only thing you are allowed to do. I still haven't run Apex or Tin Mage, becuase I haven't felt like it. If the devs were forcing us to do things, I would have done them now because I would have had no choice in the matter. Since I didn't do them, it s pretty clear that choice still exists.

If you feel like you need to do these things to "keep up with everyone else", well, hooray for you. But that is YOUR choice to keep up with others, it was not forced upon you by any external force, like so many people are accusing.