Would you pay for an Incarnate booster pack? I would

"I want to have a slime aura too!"
"Oh, sorry, you can't yet, little newbie. This isn't any slime. This is luxury slime skimmed fresh from the Well of the Furies."

I'm -all- for keeping the Incarnate Powers an EMp/Astral/Thread/Drop thing. All for it.

But really, having clouds trailing behind you is a reward for doing some of the hardest content in the game?

"Only two more trials to go and I can costume change with fireworks!"

Seriously? That's going to be your justification for these things?

I'd happily say keep your Ascension armour for Emp/Astral purchase only. But Level 1 Cape/Aura access? Auras? Emotes?

Emotes!? As a symbol of all the time I've invested into the Incarnate trials I...

Can...

FAINT! /em faint

What a crock of geese.

One point that I will concede is that gating the costume pieces with Incarnate Salvage isn't fair to the (apparently significant) number of players who don't even have ONE level 50.

To be fair, some of the arguments presented in this thread have somewhat swayed me.

It is true that the people most likely to hae an interest in costume pieces are also the ones least likely to have a character that is even capable of earning them. I know a few roleplayers who hae played for years and never gotten a character past the 30s, let alone a 50. Those players will never be capable of earning those costume pieces that they would probably love to have.

THAT point at least, I will concede.

I personally like the idea of having unlockable costuming options that don't require money to buy. I also had no problems with auras and capes being unlocked at certain levels. The first time I ran the "Cape" mission back all those years ago, I very much enjoyed the experience. Auras were not quite as spectacular, but still, it didn't bother me that I had to work for them. It gave me something *to* work towards.

I also liked the costume recipes that occasionally drop from mobs. I don't use many of them, but they're not too hard to get a hold of if I need a particular piece for a particular character or concept. I felt more could have been done with that system, TBH... but then they came-up with the idea of charging extra currency for costume options, and we haven't seen any significant free additions to our costume options since.

I hate booster packs, I have always felt they do not belong in a subscription-based game. I have no problems if I have to work long-term for something... it gives me something to work for. Perhaps the costs of the new costume pieces can be tweaked a bit, and yes have some solo-means of acquiring them.

If the devs decide to make this pack it's own booster pack, then I challenge the them to do the opposite: to make all existing booster packs obtainable with in-game means. I refuse to ever buy a Booster pack. Partly it's the cost - to buy all of the existing Boosters, you'd have to spend over $100 (US Currency). Mostly it's the simple principal of the matter of micro-transactions in a pay-to-play game. I quit for two years because of my feelings are that strong on the matter, and I wonder how long I'll play this time around as things in this regards have only gotten worse.

A lot of folks are agueing that having these costume options are difficult to obtain and will yield a culture of Haves and Have Nots? That culture is already here - in both Vet Rewards and Booster Packs - one tied with how long you've played the game, the other for how much you've paid on the game beyond the subscription price.

Would I pay? Gladly. /signed. Can I sign twice? Is there another place to sign?

Also, I have no problems with most forms of gated content, or the general idea of gated content. I dislike the fact that there's only one route to the incarnate powers, and that route is through trials, but I've gone into detail about that elsewhere.

The specific problem here is that some of the option(s) being made available as "incarnate rewards" have been requested for some time - and aren't specifically incarnate. Purple IOs are only "better" than normal IOs in ways that "hardcore" players will notice / exploit / enjoy. Particularly rare / cool / awesome / hard badges have, among badgers, their own rewards (I presume - I know little about badge-ing).

The Incarnate Armor, made of pure Incarnium, that you have to be Incarnate to wear? Sure. Awesome. Incarnate-only, just like you (previously) had to be Vanguard to wear Vanguard armor. I don't like it - but I get it (it became way harder to justify when my level 1 could get to the RWZ, but I digress). An Emote where you stream Raw Incarnate Energy, shooting awesome beams of Awesome in every direction? Great. Incarnate-only, I can get that; makes sense. Another where the symbol from your slotted incarnate powers swirls around you, proving your coolness? Hey, fabulous.

But the Datastream aura, the Rainbow trail - they don't speak of Incarnate to me. They speak "OMG I totally have a Lvl 1 Concept that can use that!". And I think that's the disconnect, here - they're providing high-level rewards that, functionally, aren't for high-level characters. They even know they're not for high-level characters, because they made it so you can email 'em around. That's the problem. To me.

(Well, the big problem. There's others, but that's the only one I give a hoot about.)

To ClawsandEffect - Thank you. As someone with only-one-Fifty (that I haven't played in literally months), that constantly replays the level 21-40 content on new alts, it's nice to have someone be willing to hear our side out, and admit they're reconsidering their viewpoint. Thank you for hearing us out.

In response to the OP...

No.
This whole concept of locking these non-incarnate things behind Level 50 Incarnate Trials is rather distasteful to me (my opinion, you can't take it away from me).
The prices will come down, but it doesn't matter if they are 1 astral for the lot, it's still ridiculous.
And it has seriously made me look at this game very differently and that's all I'm going to say about that (other than it makes me absolutely not want to give them additional money for a booster of stuff that they were already going to implement in the game within a regular update).

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Originally Posted by TonyV Is that why people bother working their way up to level 50? So that they can sit there on their towers casting down upon the people who are only level 49? Of course not. They do it because they enjoy the cool stuff they get by earning those 50 levels. It has little to do with pleasure in lording your loot over other people. It has to do with earning rewards, having goals to work towards and things given to you for actual effort, not just having everything handed out on a silver platter.

"earning rewards"?
Gating costume bits behind level 50 AND repeated Trials in order to create a character who could be based around (or completed by) having certain chest emblems, auras, etc is a reward that must be earned?
Download, a mutant who has the ability to enter into digital streams and control machines and blah blah blah... the pixel aura is perfect for the concept! Go get a character to 50, start the Incarnate path, then you can go make him... now you've earned the right to create that character concept... all others are unworthy!!!

"handed out on a silver platter?"
Yeah, because you do not deserve the right to have new options available to you to play with in your game to create and customize characters!!

I know this is a hard concept but different players want different things so whenever a new rewards system comes out the Devs are going to tie as many different reward types to it they can. Yes, this means if there is a reward system you don't like you won't get those rewards.

Now as for the current prices, I'm not sure a 5 month grind (in which you can't use your rewards for powers you started earning them for in the first palce) fits right at all.

Oh, hey, you know what I'd pay real money for? A pack which unlocks at character creation all the Inventions Costume recipes. Those haven't been high-value items for years, as far as I remember, and allowing some people to have them at creation just ensures a higher supply at a lower cost for those that don't. Everybody wins, as far as I can tell.

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Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

I would pay for the Emotes, Auras, and emblems (though I really think the Emblems should just be free, I'd still pay for them). I don't really care about the Ascension Armor, as I like the classic Golden/Silver Age look for my characters, and giant glowing armor plates really aren't my style.

Butterfly Wings going for 60 million, lulz