So now that there's less and less setting these different channels apart, who's to say that there won't be some kind of 'cable channel crash' some time in the future, when they all become even more alike than they are now, and people start to realize that not any one of those channels is any better or worse than the other?
I say when that happens, we'll end up back with niche channels all over again, after what's left of the old ones finally curl up and die. It seems to be a common theme with human behavior.
I'm hoping that the mega corps realize all these channels are nonsense, and just condense to an on demand type thing where channels are not ran by corporations but rather it becomes something like Netflix and Youtube >.>
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Originally Posted by Durakken
I'm hoping that the mega corps realize all these channels are nonsense, and just condense to an on demand type thing where channels are not ran by corporations but rather it becomes something like Netflix and Youtube >.>
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That's incredibly bad news. Over the last two seasons, this show went from decent to must-watch for me. Hope they change their minds over the coming months.
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That would be rather awesome.
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Imagine a TV service that you can search through via tags, genres, and titles thus letting you get what you want and then for commercial they'd just have to sell based on tags/genres demographics... this would allow for better marketing which is what commercials want while the demographics get to be informed about things they may want to be informed about. We also get to watch what we want when we want and we get accurate ratings.
And most people really don't mind commercials that are related to what they want and are unobtrusive... so... I don't see any problem with keeping things the same length with the same amount of commercials.
Pretty much the perfect compromise but won't happen for a while even though it can be done right now, but whatever...
Lame. I got completely over SyFy's name change, and for what? Eureka is complete fluff that I don't mind watching, Warehouse 13 has a handful of great characters I love to watch but the show is written poorly (Or, perhaps, the root of the problem is that the core concept is poor), and SGU was slow-paced but must-watch -- and cancelled.
SGU really carved out a place for itself among what I like watching, and it did it against my expectations and with an often-slow head of steam. Sure, the writers make decisions that have me horrified at times... but they've also always shown that I could trust them, and that's pretty ******' unique for ANY TV show.
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Originally Posted by Father Xmas
Yes but it looks like they are going to give us a luke warm superpower show.
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that sounds completely SUCKTASTIC
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That channel..
needs to promote...
This game.
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that sounds completely SUCKTASTIC
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They had another super power show pilot called Three Inches about a slacker played by James "I'm not Spike anymore" Marsters who can move any object with his mind, but only 3 inches. He teams up with other people with similar seemingly unimpressive powers. It is meant to be strange and offbeat.
Seems like they are trying for more action than odd.
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Sounds to me like they're trying to create a show to cash in on the superhero craze without having to have much of a special effects budget.
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Sounds to me like they're trying to create a show to cash in on the superhero craze without having to have much of a special effects budget.
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Sounds to me like someone at Sifee is deliberately focusing on crappy Sci-Fi so they can use the poor ratings to compare to the higher ratings non sci-fi shows like wrasslin gets and make the argument that the viewers want the more hip trendy crap that other networks broadcast.
The Executives of the Sci-Fi/SyFy Network ALL jumped the shark when they allowed "wrestling" on board, not to mention all the damned modern "Disaster B-Movies" that are supposedly funded by SyFy. All of which have similar, if not identical, formulas: Doom solved by Pseudo Science that a three year old would scoff at.
Hell, even Sanctuary is trying to jump ship... Stopping a Tidal Wave with another Tidal Wave? Someone doesn't know their fluid dynamics. (IE: they pass through one another and make badness for everyone anyway.)
Give Wrestling back to Spike, or wherever it crawled out from, and get things back to a winning combination: Science Fiction on the Science Fiction Channel. (some fantasy is okay, but Science trumps Magic imo)
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New Firefly
Stargate Something
Star Trek Something
Doctor Who
Torchwood
Personally, I didn't mind the show. It was what it was; which wasn't SG1 or SGA. I'm glad they departed from being campy and/or overly PC (which has been the trend for much of TV sci-fi for a long time running); having a third series with similar characters, plot lines and dialogue... meh.
What did bother me about it is how it tried to follow on the heels of BSG.
Sad to see it go in lieu of some of the programming they've gone with.
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This is the perfect example of what happens when "vision" is considered more important over "audience."
Brad Wright and Robert Cooper can say how the Stargate Fans "punished" Universe all they like, but the truth of the matter is the fans of the franchise communicated very audibly what they liked and disliked about SGU for two seasons. Wright/Cooper chose to ignore (even deride) that criticism instead of taking it for what it was... a signpost to recover ratings by modifying the show. Instead, they chose to stick to their vision, and now the series is cancelled and cast and crew are out of work because of it.
Pity, I think SGU could have worked with a little bit of tweaking.
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The show definitely grew on me... Shame, as I -really- like the Stargate franchise.
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That's about how I felt also. I didn't even last 3/4 through the first season.
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Good bye SGU, i wont miss you. I dropped SGU about 3/4 through season one and was surprised it even got a second season. I watched and loved all Stargate series prior to this one but SGU was such a massive departure from the previous series that it left me nothing to connect with.
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It was a bad show on an even worse network.........
.....still, it was more interesting than Caprica. Barely.
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SGU is people wanting to make SG like BSG when it's nothing like BSG v.v
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Sounds EXACTLY like the most recent version of Battlestar Galactica.
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.....still, it was more interesting than Caprica. Barely.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRxrCBvt7TM
was more interesting than Caprica.
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I know that...
Imagine a TV service that you can search through via tags, genres, and titles thus letting you get what you want and then for commercial they'd just have to sell based on tags/genres demographics... this would allow for better marketing which is what commercials want while the demographics get to be informed about things they may want to be informed about. We also get to watch what we want when we want and we get accurate ratings. And most people really don't mind commercials that are related to what they want and are unobtrusive... so... I don't see any problem with keeping things the same length with the same amount of commercials. Pretty much the perfect compromise but won't happen for a while even though it can be done right now, but whatever... |
have you seen jtv.com? nowhere near perfect, by any stretch, but it is interesting to see the experiment.
hulu, netflix, and co are definitely outside the status quo business model. an unfortunate albatross however is the global licensing and related issues preventing anyone outside specific territories from participating. if sgu were looked at from a more global perspective perhaps it might have made the difference, assuming this could somehow be calculated into a $ value around advertising/subscription/?.
this might end up biting scyfyllus, and it's hopeful veiwers, in the a$$ in the longer term though. who here would give them another chance to cancel a show after half a season and a 9 month break between airings? how can they hope to gain any momentum and/or critical appeal if they've basically flashed us while jogging past? on the other hand, the property rights holders/parent corporations are not completely silent in these matters. i find it unlikely that bscicycle decided entirely on their own to cancel the show without some input from interested parties.
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For those of us that did enjoy SGU for what it was, there may still be a future. According the the producers, Syfy's licensing fee was only a small part of their funding and they are currently talking to MGM about possibilities for finishing the story.
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Edit: To add to this, MGM announced that it has now completed the reboot and has secured $500 million funding to get operations moving forward once again. Source.
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“Obviously, it doesn’t look good,” he said. “But is this the end? Well, the Syfy cancellation makes it very long odds that we’ll be producing a third season next year. But is this the end? … The honest answer is: I don’t know. “No, that’s not entirely true. The truth is I do know some — but only enough to say it doesn’t look good and it’s very log odds we’ll be producing a third season next year — yet still only enough to say I can’t say this is definitely the end. At least for now.” |
If MGM feels there is a market that will allow them to complete the show that's great. They may even find another US network that is willing to air the completed series.
There was a time friends of mine jokingly called the History Channel the Nazi Channel due to all the WW II documentaries about Germany and the war. Nearly all of that content is now gone, spun off onto the Military Channel which doesn't even get an HD version on my cable system.
Disney cartoons are now on Disney XD or some other Disney derivative. Same with toons on Nick or Cartoon Network (is Boomerang still around?).
Bravo use to have Opera and Broadway musicals (I watched the original cast version of Sweeney Todd on it), now it's thick with reality TV.
MTV use to have music videos 24/7 with older music spun off onto VH1, now it's reality shows with a few music videos on at 4am.
Country Music Television use to be the country music equivalent of MTV, last time I watched it they had pimp my semi-cab (which was kind of neat).
What happen is cable companies told the owners of those channels that they can't sell advertising on those channels to local companies due to their low ratings. The original idea is to be able to target unique demographics but "Joe's Plumbing Supply" either got driven out of business by Lowes and Home Depot or simply want their ad seen by the most people for the $, niche demographic be damned. So nearly all the niche networks of a decade or two ago have sort of become similar to one another in style of content. Content that is cheap to make but still draw more viewers, at least in terms of percent of overall viewers, than the content they originally had a decade or two ago.
SyFy is just the latest victim of a trend that started years ago and due to the success of it on other channels has finally been applied here.
This.