Say farewell to SGU.


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Are there any shows with spaceships on left on TV?
Transformers Prime?

Though it is only the Decepticons' spaceship...



 

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BSG started falling apart in Season 3, that show should have ended sooner. Now all these prequels they are doing should be called: Battlestar Galactica: beating the dead Pegasus.
I think that's a slightly better way to word it. Yes?


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Honestly, I can't remember the last thing I watched on SyFy. (I hate the name change too.) Just nothing they've had has remotely appealed to me. So a big Meh... from me.
It would be great if they could offer something like Firefly, Farscape, or the like. But I think they'll just keep turning out Sharktopuss movies... and umm... well... I'll find other stuff to watch.




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With the momentum SGU started this season, I was actually beginning to like the show a lot.

Too little, too late I guess.

Great News about the returning shows (Eureka, Warehouse 13, Sanctuary), not thrilled about Haven returning, something about that show just feels lacking.




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I too am completely nonplussed at the addition of "professional" wrestling to their lineup.

As much as I like wrestling, I don’t like it on my scifi channel…unless they have both wrestlers transform into monsters before the match, then I wouldn’t mind it.

And I see Syfy is adding a cooking show to the channel in March, they better have tentacles & fangs coming out of that cooking pot.


 

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...not thrilled about Haven returning, something about that show just feels lacking.
Entertainment. It lacks entertainment.

There are no compelling characters, the story seems to be episodically driven with an over-laying plot that's as dull as it is vague... all hidden under the excuse of trying to present a mysterious town to it's audience.

I literally laughed out loud when I first heard them mention 'The Troubles'. That was the moment I lost what little interest I had left in the show. How give something so serious with such a... poorly thought out name? The Troubles? Sounds like a childs fake disease like Kooties. Actually... I suppose it could also be a cheesy 50s sitcom family.


 

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Good bye SGU, i wont miss you. I dropped SGU about 3/4 through season one and was surprised it even got a second season. I watched and loved all Stargate series prior to this one but SGU was such a massive departure from the previous series that it left me nothing to connect with. It was dark, heavy, not fun and not funny. I really wanted to like the series as I wanted more Stargate in my life but I just hated it. Perhaps now we will get a good Stargate, unless of course SGU has killed the franchise....

Sorry to be a Debbie Downer but this series was such an incredible disappointment for me, I just can't help it.

Part of SGU's problem was that they took so damn long to develop it. Most of season 1 really needed to be condensed. And the first quarter of season 2.

The other thing that hurt are the mid-season hiatus periods. They just kill all the momentum. I hated the crap out of it with BSG and doing the same with SGU makes me want to walk into the MGM and SyFy offices with a rock hammer and lay waste.

But by mid season 2, it really started to get it's legs under it.

Hopefully MGM will shop it around and get it picked up elsewhere.



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Hopefully MGM realizes what they have and pulls what they did with SG-1 which is go sell it to somewhere else... Or just do the whole movie route with SG-1 and expand into SGU and SGA
good luck with that. MGM pulled funding from the SG:A DVD movie and sank into the production of SG:U. There's also some bad blood between some of the execs and several members of the SG:A cast.

would still be nice to see an Atlantis movie.

frakking SG:U.


 

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One reason funding was pulled away from the movies was that sales indicated that the direct-to-DVD market was gone. Then there was the whole bankruptcy thing that MGM is now starting to pull out of. Maybe they still have faith and will try to sell SGU to another channel or they will move on to something else then bring back the SG1 and SGA movies when they have the funding.


 

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Something else that I think has hurt SGU this season was the decision to delay airing episodes on Hulu by 30 days. If I'm watching some sitcom where what happens in one episode has no effect on what happens in other episodes then I don't mind missing an episode here or there. When I'm watching a show with an overall arc then I want to see the episodes in order so that I know what's going on. Consequently when I missed an episode I just stopped watching until that episode showed up on Hulu and by delaying Hulu by 30 days that meant I missed several more episodes in the interim.


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Just some quick comments on this one....

As for why wrestling is on SyFy: Essentially World Wrestling Entertainment pays networks a lot of money to air their shows and they virtually guarantee you an 18-35 demographic. WWE does bounce around networks a bit but they are normally a pretty good draw. When the wrestling did first start on SyFy, they played with zombies and weird characters on their shows, but then quickly ditched it.

As to the cancellation of SGU: I'm not surprised at all. I think the whole 'grim and realistic' type of SF show and that kind of show generally has plateaued and people know it. Having characters that are not only unlikeable to the audience but to each other is putting the noose around your neck early on. And SyFy are desperate to recreate the critical and mainstream success of BSG, but they and the producers of the BSG stable of shows are going back to that well far too often and they'll wind up diluting what goodwill remains for the original show.

I personally don't know anyone who stayed with SGU in any real meaningful way and I think it was a mistake for the Canadian producers to go this route. The original SG continuity and cast of characters had a strong genuine following and it's always a bad move to ignore that.


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....as it turns out.....


eli was just having a bad dream based on cheetos, an mmo, and stress.

*poof*

wakes up with keyboard face.




might as well wind up bad writing with a crappy trope. sgu, you won't be missed, and perhaps next time when writers place a group in exceptional intentional jeopardy, you don't handle it like a 1930's radio serial show.


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It's kinda sad. I really wanted to like the show. The very core concept struck me as far more appealing than other 'single ship way the **** out there' type shows. But they really seemed to go out of their way to create some really unlikable or plain silly characters. Rush was good, but then he also got a ton of character development. Greer was amazing. Rhona Mitra was expectably hot in leather. Everybody else was somewhere between bland and annoying. Often both at the same time.

And the first season was some of the worst writing I've seen in the history of TV. Not necessarily on quality per se, but the lack of continuation from episode to episode, things being brought up just to be dropped again right away... It really felt like there were competing writers taking turns and always trying to shoot down the other's subplots while establishing their own. It was a ******* mess and didn't feel like it was going anywhere for the longest time.

I really wanted to like this show, but I didn't even bother to come back for season 2.


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I recall a recent article where one of the SGU people said they could wrap up the storyline in 1 season. I guess now they have their chance.


 

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This is the second time the SG team has been screwed. For years SG-1 was planning for the end and they ended every season with the "this could be the last episode" episode and every year they got renewed...so when they finally was like "we're going to have an ongoing story and intro something new" Syfylis was like "We cancel you". So now we got to the focus of SGU and Syfylis is again going "We cancel you again"


 

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I recall a recent article where one of the SGU people said they could wrap up the storyline in 1 season. I guess now they have their chance.
If Syfy had given them a final season, they could have but from what I have been hearing on Twitter, this season is already finished. I don't think Syfy should have really called it quits on the series when there are still 10 episodes left. Especially considering that the series was finally going somewhere.


 

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If Syfy had given them a final season, they could have but from what I have been hearing on Twitter, this season is already finished. I don't think Syfy should have really called it quits on the series when there are still 10 episodes left. Especially considering that the series was finally going somewhere.

I'll agree here.

I, too, didn't really care for SG:U but I still watched it with my dad...because, well...it's something Stargate.

I don't care for Warehouse 13 or Eureka so...nothing on Syfy for me.

Only shows I watch (when they're new that is) is The Big Bang Theory and House (is House still on? *shrugs*).

Hopefully in a year or a few years we'll get a new/good SG show again....


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Wrestling gets good ratings and NBC Universal sticks it on USA and SyFy where they see fit.

I think when SGU was conceived, it was during the success of not only BSG but Lost but near their end. Slow moving stories full of characters, many who are morally ambiguous and basically didn't want to be where they were, trying to make the best of a bad situation. Not surprising that a network tried to take the formula for a show that works and do it again.

Problem is there is a threshold of how much dark, depressing TV we are willing to watch during an economic downturn. I commented last week that the holiday specials of Eureka and Warehouse 13 were breaths of fresh air compared to the endless stream of serious dramas.

Drawn out shows drenched in melancholy aren't doing well anymore. So the pendulum will swing back to episodic shows with 95% happy endings and clear cut heroes and villains.


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Hopefully in a year or a few years we'll get a new/good SG show again....
If they return to the SG well it will probably be to make a reboot of SG-1.


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If they return to the SG well it will probably be to make a reboot of SG-1.

Fine by me.


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Fine by me.
And it will be like this only not as good.


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And it will be like this only not as good.

Ha, I've never seen that before


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  1. Year-Round Programming (Translation: Lousy programming choices to put it into a hyper-competitive slot during a hyper-competitive time of the year.)
  2. The move to Tuesday. (Again, lousy programming choice.)
  3. SyFy and "rasslin". (Essentially the channel has alienated (pardon the pun) their core audience with the non-SciFi/Fantasy programming.)
  4. Online viewership/time shifting (Essentially, they're too stupid to figure out a viable way to count for online viewership. I'm sure the 30-day delay helped not-at-all as well.)
  5. Mid-Season Breaks. (As I said before, DESTROYS momentum. And even Doctor Who as adopting this stupid ****ing practice this season.)
  6. Viewers just weren't there. (Translation: Wasn't some runaway blockbuster that everybody and their brother would track through time/day shifts on a halfassed network pushing a load of other garbage programming at you and/or wait AN ENTIRE FRIGGING MONTH to see the same episode online.)
I can actually condense this down into one simple reason. SyFy was just too stupid to manage the damn property correctly. End of story.



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Online viewership/time shifting (Essentially, they're too stupid to figure out a viable way to count for online viewership. I'm sure the 30-day delay helped not-at-all as well.)
If you mean "they" as in how things are done in TV between networks, advertisers and ratings companies. It's also possible that the 30 day delay was but in to increase same night viewership by not giving us an option to catch the show later in the week online. Of course this combined with the first two reasons, putting it on against primetime new programming on the major networks on a new night is assuming the TV viewing is still a zero sum game. If you watch A, then you can't watch B. We want to know how willing you are to watch our show when WE want you to NOT when you want to.

SyFy is part of NBC Universal Cable which is now owned by Comcast I think. So is USA Network (and Bravo and others) and their roster of original programing has been thriving with split seasons. However it's usually summer/winter and not fall/spring. But it is starting to look like the more seasoned, higher rated shows like Burn Notice and Psych, Monk before that, are being shifted to fall/spring like regular major network series. Not sure if they are testing the waters for a summer primetime network gig but they are already in syndication on the local third tier broadcast networks.


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