Too Many Demon Summoners?
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Bookkeeper_Jay,
Posted on: 2010-05-03 09:25 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
Heh, that random howling is rather grating, isn't it. There have been times when I've jumped because I didn't realize a demon was nearby until it started baying in my ear. That sound seems to be mixed more prominently too.
I'm one of those wierd people that UNsummons the pets when I'm running around the zones. Keeping track of pets, making sure they don't draw aggro or get stuck somewhere, is a real bother.
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Originally Posted by Lazarus
I would very much like it if the Devs would SHUT THE DEMONS UP. Already getting very sick of hearing all the noises that they make all the time, especially in crowded places like the Market.
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Its kind of ironic actually... after all the complaints of CoX becoming a farming game, they finally gave in and made a cow based summoning set, with pig squeels every couple of seconds....
All they need now is a pitchfork set for melee charecters and in game music changed to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btEpF334Rtc
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No, stacking in this game is overpowered, always has been. A single DS MM is no more overpowered than a single Thugs MM. It's the stacking of -Res when you have 8 of them that gives that appearance. Same thing would happen (and did happen) with an all Thugs team. Ever seen an all Rad superteam in action? Or an all VEAT team soft-capped to everything using TO's?|
Originally Posted by Predatoric
Demon summoning is overpowered as it stands, and just about everyone but the devs seems to know it.
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Thankfully the Devs seen to have the foresight to wait until all the excitement has died down, so they can judge how the set performs in normal circumstances before they do any more balancing to it.
I'm still waiting for GR to get the Clockwork pieces. My own demon summoner is going to be a clockwork programmed to summon demons so that his creator could figure out exactly how to recite the pacts so that the demons did not turn on him. After going through an intense period of trial and error, he finally managed to perfect the magical seal so that the demons would not immediately tear him into pieces. He rushed into the room set aside for the ritual to examine his new minions only to painfully discover that they were bound to the Clockwork, and not himself, leaving the Clockwork with new found freedom and power.
On a side tangent, I found it initially very difficult to see just wtf was going on when I got into my first demon team. They're so friggin' big, noisy, and glowy that often I can't see where anything is when I'm near them, or they push you all over the damn place because of their size. I also don't really feel like they do that great of damage in comparison to what I'm doing, but I'm willing to bet most people playing DS don't really know how to play MM.
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You mean the markets that were down for much of the time Demon Summoning has been available yet where people have been rocking their auras and footstomps for the past 3 years?
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Originally Posted by Lazarus
I would very much like it if the Devs would SHUT THE DEMONS UP. Already getting very sick of hearing all the noises that they make all the time, especially in crowded places like the Market.
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total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
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Demon Summoning isn't overpowered. You stack any MM/Corr/VEAT/Defender/controller and you're going to have an overpowered team. It's just the nature of having force multiplying buffs capping out, not the fault of individual sets.
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Originally Posted by Predatoric
Demon summoning is overpowered as it stands, and just about everyone but the devs seems to know it.
Due to this more people than usual are running to play demon summoning hoping that the devs dont catch on. That combined with the fact its a new shiny means theres gonna be a fair amount of cattle ranchers for a while to come yet. Try running a cave with 8x demon summoners... its no fun trust me |
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Pain Domination? Hellooooooooooooo
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Originally Posted by Mr. DJ
I see no difference from i7 when Thugs came out or pretty much any power set that comes out that's actually new (Willpower, Dual Blades, Shield Defense)
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Because you haven't played with my DS/DM |
Originally Posted by Carnifax_NA
^ This basically. Except I played my Plant/Emp during the City of Neo.
Mainly because if there are loads of one type of a character running about you tend to get invited to PuGs easier if you aren't them (especially in the case of MMs). So I've mostly stuck to my Ice/Psi Domi who tends to work well with the demonic horde. I would like to know why so many Demon MMs are big scardie-cats though, half the time I'm the one opening combat. I've also started a Widow who is late teens, but she gets a team handily anyway since you rarely have too many SoAs. |
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Are they making life hell for you?
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Originally Posted by Lazarus
I would very much like it if the Devs would SHUT THE DEMONS UP. Already getting very sick of hearing all the noises that they make all the time, especially in crowded places like the Market.
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@Golden Girl
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Originally Posted by Westley
I have absolutely no interest in demon summoning.
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Then you replied to the wrong thread.Which is HILARIOUS, because the whole point of the OP was to complain about too many demon summoners.
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For those who haven't noticed, the markets have been up since this morning.|
Originally Posted by SwellGuy
You mean the markets that were down for much of the time Demon Summoning has been available yet where people have been rocking their auras and footstomps for the past 3 years?
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The Demons simply do this annoying howl at random the entire time they are summoned, while spamming footstomp is a conscious jerk decision. They howl while at mission doors, while at the vendors, etc... No other Mastermind henchmen do this sort of thing, why the Devs decided to make Demons as annoying as possible I do not understand.
Auras never bothered me at all, most of them don't have an annoying audio component like all heal-spamming has.
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Yes as it happens.|
Originally Posted by Mr. DJ
Weren't Demons nerfed a couple times during beta?
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Originally Posted by Primal
Heh, that random howling is rather grating, isn't it. There have been times when I've jumped because I didn't realize a demon was nearby until it started baying in my ear.
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Originally Posted by Predatoric
Its kind of ironic actually... after all the complaints of CoX becoming a farming game, they finally gave in and made a cow based summoning set, with pig squeels every couple of seconds....
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I haven't seen a single demon summoner in Atlas, Talos or anywhere cool.
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Originally Posted by Ironik
I haven't seen a single demon summoner in Atlas, Talos or anywhere cool.
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Probably we're all gambling in St. Martial
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Originally Posted by Ironik
I haven't seen a single demon summoner in Atlas, Talos or anywhere cool.
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I opted for a human-sized gummi bear MM. Bright shiny colors on her. |
Originally Posted by BrandX
Everyone else I've teamed with with a DS/ MM looked like a demon/succubus or wore lots of black/red/possibly a 3rd color (thought I ran into one at a trainer who wore black/blue). But all looked to have a dark motiff.
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Originally Posted by Ironik
I haven't seen a single demon summoner in Atlas, Talos or anywhere cool.
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My DS/Traps MM, Nyx of Gallimaufry, is an interdimensional tourist whose "flight" was diverted/misdirected/lost. She lost her luggage in the confusion, but luckily still has her carry-on handbag containing her "necessities" and "pets". She's golden skinned with a blue-green and amber outfit. Rather friendly and outgoing if a bit selfish, demented and sociopathic by Primal Earth standards. (More accurately is all too human in outlook, especially regarding creatures that are less than 'human' from her viewpoint.)|
Originally Posted by Pep_Cat
I opted for a human-sized gummi bear MM. Bright shiny colors on her.
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Not so much a black and red demoness/succubus.
Dr. Todt's theme.
i make stuff...
My DS/Traps is a binder of demons through foul technologies, he considers himself an Aristocrat, & heart as black as the abyss.
His outfits are quite proper & pristine or flamboyant in nature, but never the broody black & red look.
Here his Description
Listen, I make no qualms of who I am, I am a monster, I am not some poor man plagued to walked with the damned, I am the damned & they are my kin. I choose to use my science & technology to bind the unholy to my will, to control them & use them for my own despicable ends. Do not assume otherwise, because you'll be next fool I bind to my will...
Dark foreboding man, Fabien is highly intelligent & highly skilled in controlling, murdering, torture, maiming, & anything else his blacken heart craves.
Calling himself the Aristocrat of death, he hedonistic man, with the desire to use his tech to bind everything to his will. Some say he's made even darker pacts & has slept with the foul demons himself, he just smiles & watches his playthings shred you apart & relishes in your screams. He truly is a despicable man of impulse, he always claims every man has a demon in themselves, its up to the man to see what they do with it.
So yah,
JJ
I delete more 50s, then you'll ever have.
http://www.pandora.com/people/jjdemon
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Originally Posted by Westley
I have absolutely no interest in demon summoning.
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As a profession? Neither do I.
However, as a pastime...
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you will, oh lord will you ever.|
Originally Posted by Ironik
I haven't seen a single demon summoner in Atlas, Talos or anywhere cool.
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(and on liberty, you will see mine, in a few months)
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Originally Posted by BrandX
Because you haven't played with my DS/DM
I'm always willing to run in first and keep on moving. The others are scared of debt. |
Maybe I have. It's all a blur of scantily clad ladies and grunting, hideous monsters at this point. (I'd love to say "Just like college" but that'd be a lie).
I've certainly teamed with Demon MMs who open with Tar Patch and Fearsome Stare. I liked them. But I've also teamed with lots of Cowardly Lion types who all stand there when you say "Ready". Generally I say "Bored now" and Ice Patch from cover to encourage them to get started.
One can never have too many VEATs though. Mmmm. Soft-cap on top of saturated Drain Psyche.
You can never have TOO MANY Demon Summoners! LOL I joined the ranks of the FoTM and currently I have one at level 18. I team with a good friend that has created a DS as well and the combo is devastating.. Let's see playing as a duo we have already managed to get Impounder and Vandal Badges out of the way and I need a little over 100 more PPD for that Mayhem badge. We don't Do mayhem missions we demolish them and leave absolutely nothing to attack when we go (that includes cardboard boxes, metal crates, etc..) We took on Tsoo in a newspaper mission and it seemed like the whole thing was filled with Sorcerers. They went down so fast I was amazed.
I think its an extremely fun powerset and am enjoying it. And before anyone asks My minions are named
Grunt
Grumble
Growl
and Fickle
I am planning to name the next Fester and I haven't quite decided what to call my Demon Prince yet (How does BOB sound? No? Okay I'll work on it more ) LOL :-D
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I enjoy my DS/Thermal. Rushed her up to 32 with a friend (since we played into the high 20s on test the normal way). Have since been taking it slow and working on IOs, which is taking a while since the market blew up. My pets have 69-86% RES to S/L which is pretty awesome. I can solo +2/x6 without any issue. Only MM I've ever played where I can put all pets on aggressive in a team of 8 set to +2 and not lose a single pet across numerous missions.
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Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU
Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.
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I would very much like it if the Devs would SHUT THE DEMONS UP. Already getting very sick of hearing all the noises that they make all the time, especially in crowded places like the Market.