Vanguard Outfit Price ...
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Adeon Hawkwood,
Posted on: 2009-11-20 09:15 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
You get one per mission from the LGTF.
The answer is ship raids, about 3-4 of them should get you the full outfit.
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Second that... missions are piddly compared to what Shipraids will give you - I don't think I've ever got less that 200 Vanguard Merits on one.
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Originally Posted by Catwhoorg
You get one per mission from the LGTF.
The answer is ship raids, about 3-4 of them should get you the full outfit. |
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Cat is right, but getting a ship raid on a low pop server is near impossible, or during a holiday event. I am a grind player, so I get them running Borea missions, but I know all players don't want to do that. |
Originally Posted by Catwhoorg
You get one per mission from the LGTF.
The answer is ship raids, about 3-4 of them should get you the full outfit. |
I also think the prices on some the items should be reduced. The prices were fine when the raid was new, and it was getting run a lot, but now not so much.
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The Vanguard costume pieces cost is horrible. I've mentioned it before, and I'll keep requesting for it to be lowered.
100 merits should unlock ALL the pieces. Maybe 150. The HVAS and other little gadgets already cost an ok ammount. They could even include a few new temporary powers. But the current cost is ludicrous. The only one that isnt too bad is the chest option, which not only unlocks the vanguard top but also the two chest details. Compared to the helmet, which is about 350 for three parts...mad.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
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This has a lot to do with what server you are on. We run ten or so Ship Raids a week on Justice, so many that I get bored with them. At that rate, you can get the costume in a couple of days of paying attention. We also run many LGTFs a day which generate a fair number of Vanguard Merits, especially with the triggered event.
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Originally Posted by Zyphoid
Cat is right, but getting a ship raid on a low pop server is near impossible, or during a holiday event. I am a grind player, so I get them running Borea missions, but I know all players don't want to do that.
I also think the prices on some the items should be reduced. The prices were fine when the raid was new, and it was getting run a lot, but now not so much. |
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Two per week regularly on Guardian. That's not counting any improptus.
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which server do you mean? I know on liberty we have a specific raid night, and it seems that a number of servers have those, have you checked the server subforums? If not, maybe try to schedule one. a good raid can net 300 or so merits.
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Originally Posted by Zyphoid
Cat is right, but getting a ship raid on a low pop server is near impossible, or during a holiday event. I am a grind player, so I get them running Borea missions, but I know all players don't want to do that.
I also think the prices on some the items should be reduced. The prices were fine when the raid was new, and it was getting run a lot, but now not so much. |
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I don't know. I want the prices lowered just as much as you do, but 100-150 for everything seems a little low. I'd rather add more ways to get merits and lower the prices a little than just slash the costs.|
Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
The Vanguard costume pieces cost is horrible. I've mentioned it before, and I'll keep requesting for it to be lowered.
100 merits should unlock ALL the pieces. Maybe 150. The HVAS and other little gadgets already cost an ok ammount. They could even include a few new temporary powers. But the current cost is ludicrous. The only one that isnt too bad is the chest option, which not only unlocks the vanguard top but also the two chest details. Compared to the helmet, which is about 350 for three parts...mad. |
And that includes adding bonus merits to the Lady Grey TF.
After all, if I don't like raids, I can skip Hami and do an STF. Why is an equivalent option not available when it comes to ship raids? Why does doing the main content for the zone not actually generate all that many merits, even when I save the freakin' world?
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Personally, I find that by cranking up the difficulty to around x3 Players, that gives me a sufficient amount of foes in the RWZ missions to get me enough merits to get a piece every few missions.
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Ive cranked my brute up to +2/X8 for two runs of the intro arc and got enough for the salvage satchel thingy....I wasnt clearing missions either....so yeah crank up the difficulty and go to town...
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Virtue typically schedules two evenings per week, with as many as 4 raids running back-to-back.
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Originally Posted by Moiread
Two per week regularly on Guardian. That's not counting any improptus.
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I ran through the entirety of the RWZ on my Brute, on Malicious, and only got about 200-300 merits total. Also, not all of us have farm-capable builds, nor do I want to resort to farming just to unlock some costume pieces.
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Originally Posted by Frogfather
Ive cranked my brute up to +2/X8 for two runs of the intro arc and got enough for the salvage satchel thingy....I wasnt clearing missions either....so yeah crank up the difficulty and go to town...
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Go -1/x8 if you're just in it for the merits. The lower level enemies have the same chance to drop Vanguard merits, and you can kill them faster.
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Originally Posted by Frogfather
Ive cranked my brute up to +2/X8 for two runs of the intro arc and got enough for the salvage satchel thingy....I wasnt clearing missions either....so yeah crank up the difficulty and go to town...
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Originally Posted by IanTheM1
I ran through the entirety of the RWZ on my Brute, on Malicious, and only got about 200-300 merits total. Also, not all of us have farm-capable builds, nor do I want to resort to farming just to unlock some costume pieces.
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Really? running an arc twice is farming? I was just giving options....the obvious answer is mothership raids. As the third and fourth arcs in the RWZ are mostly Vanguard and Nemisis thats not really gonna help the accumulation of merits. The OP said Fire/WP scrapper....that sounds pretty farm capable to me.
Regardless....ship raid....kill rikti in large numbers otherwise, however you choose to do it...its really not that onerous at X8. Two or three good nights and youll be fine...or a week at an hour a night...
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Additionally, I've gone through entire missions in the RWZ--both story arc missions and Borea-supplied--and come away with only the Merit they give gratis at Mission Complete. This is on my lvl 50 Mastermind, who routinely soloes Borea missions at +2/3 and x5. (And she's not a farm build--or if she is, it was completely by accident.)|
Originally Posted by IanTheM1
I ran through the entirety of the RWZ on my Brute, on Malicious, and only got about 200-300 merits total. Also, not all of us have farm-capable builds, nor do I want to resort to farming just to unlock some costume pieces.
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I'll throw in my vote for reducing the costs on the costume pieces. It's my understanding that the Vanguard weapons are cheaper than the outfits. What's that tell you about Vanguard as an operation? "We want you to kill Rikti. That's all. You coming out alive is entirely optional." I could agree to 50-75 for smaller items, and up 150 for big ones like the cuirass & greaves. The overall price would come down considerably, while still providing sufficient grind for those ultra-[censored] times when you come out of a mission exactly 1 Merit richer.
I think by 'farm-capable' Ian meant 'able to safely solo at x8', because that's not exactly a common ability. If you're more of a support type, or don't have good multi-target soloing sets or whatever IOs you might need, it could be rather difficult to get through x8 rikti missions without faceplanting continually.
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Rather than lowering the prices (ok, maybe lower them a bit) I'd prefer to see the drop chance increased for Rikti outside of a Ship raid. Currently it's about 10%, would it really be unbalancing for it to be say 30%?
I'd also like to see the Psi-bomb have its cost reduced. The other powers are reasonably priced but 150 merits for 3 bombs seems a little steep. I'd like to see it decrease to 100 or even 75.
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lol, beancounters FTW, by offering the shiny weapon carrot, they can save a whole helluva lot by making sure the hero and villians take the brunt of the assualt compared to thier expensively trained and outfitted regulars.
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Originally Posted by TimeLord
What's that tell you about Vanguard as an operation? "We want you to kill Rikti. That's all. You coming out alive is entirely optional."
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Or you could have characters like a few of mine, which can survive x8 damage, but don't really have the output to make it worth the effort.|
Originally Posted by Muon_Neutrino
I think by 'farm-capable' Ian meant 'able to safely solo at x8', because that's not exactly a common ability. If you're more of a support type, or don't have good multi-target soloing sets or whatever IOs you might need, it could be rather difficult to get through x8 rikti missions without faceplanting continually.
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To the matter at hand: I agree that prices are a bit high. If I'm helping Dark Watcher on some top-secret missions to protect the fate of two different worlds, you'd think they'd be quite willing to pony up a set of armor to help me along the way.
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Originally Posted by FunstuffofDoom
If I'm helping Dark Watcher on some top-secret missions to protect the fate of two different worlds, you'd think they'd be quite willing to pony up a set of armor to help me along the way.
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I'm fine with the armor costs, it's a sign of someone who's played one of the more epic battles in this game (the ship raid) and really taken the battle to the rikti. I do think the LGTF and RWZ story arcs should be a little more rewarding, but without the merits no one would fight the mothership, and if no one fights the mothership, how're we going to quell the rikti population?
It's obvious the Vanguard stuffs incentive to do a semi hard to organize player event. It's rare enough an effort is rallied up as is.
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I haven't seen anyone mention this but farming the Ghost Falcon mission set -1/x8 or what ever you can handle worked for me ya you don't get the mission complete merits like you do in the RWZ.
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So I have conceived a mad massion to get my Fire/WP Scrapper the Vanguard outfit. She currently has a bit under 400 Vanguard Merits.
Paragon Wiki says she needs over 1000!
That price seem high to anyone else?
Second, do you get a bonus of Vanguard Merits for completing the Lady Gray TF?
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