Vanguard Outfit Price ...
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Adeon Hawkwood,
Posted on: 2009-11-20 09:15 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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500 for HVAS with ONE use is garbage. Should have 3 uses I think.
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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
The Vanguard costume pieces cost is horrible. I've mentioned it before, and I'll keep requesting for it to be lowered.
100 merits should unlock ALL the pieces. Maybe 150. The HVAS and other little gadgets already cost an ok ammount. They could even include a few new temporary powers. But the current cost is ludicrous. The only one that isnt too bad is the chest option, which not only unlocks the vanguard top but also the two chest details. Compared to the helmet, which is about 350 for three parts...mad. |
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Actually it's 250. While it is pricey it doesn't really bother me. Shivans are easily available as a summon for when the road gets rocky, the HVAS can be reserved for special occasions when a Shivan alone is not enough.
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Originally Posted by beyeajus74018
500 for HVAS with ONE use is garbage. Should have 3 uses I think.
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Originally Posted by Zyphoid
Cat is right, but getting a ship raid on a low pop server is near impossible
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I LOLed.
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was that changed? I could've sworn I saw 500 tagged on there. I play pretty late at night though, could have had some momentary dyslexia. 250 isn't bad.
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Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood
Actually it's 250. While it is pricey it doesn't really bother me. Shivans are easily available as a summon for when the road gets rocky, the HVAS can be reserved for special occasions when a Shivan alone is not enough.
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Well the storage sack is 500, maybe you were looking at that in your tiredness? As far as I know the HVAs has always been 250.
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Originally Posted by beyeajus74018
was that changed? I could've sworn I saw 500 tagged on there. I play pretty late at night though, could have had some momentary dyslexia. 250 isn't bad.
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This is the only Vanguard costume part that I have a problem with in regards to price. |
Originally Posted by IanTheM1
It costs more merits to buy Vanguard pants (not even Impervium-armored pants, just pants) than it does to buy a gun.
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I can purchase the chest armor, which comes with two chest details in addition to the chest texture for 50 merits, and I can purchase those wicked Talso- err, "Vanguard" blades or a Redding Rifle for a mere 100 merits. But I have to pay 200 merits for a texture that can be used for - what? - two categories of leg wear? Outrageous! IMHO, it should cost the same as the chest items.
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It's the same as in every RPG ever made.|
Originally Posted by ebon3
lol, beancounters FTW, by offering the shiny weapon carrot, they can save a whole helluva lot by making sure the hero and villians take the brunt of the assualt compared to thier expensively trained and outfitted regulars.
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As for the topic at hand, I'm going to say once again that the prices for Vanguard pieces are absurd. It's a costume set. Why do I have to work at it for weeks? The powers I can see, but the costume pieces? I'd say either slash their prices significantly, or bundle them up in the same expensive purchase. 250 for the whole set is still a lot, but reasonable to actually GET on more than one character.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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Yes, ship raids are the way to go, but start by joining Vanguard at level 35. Then, EVERY Rikti you fight has a chance to drop a merit, whether street hunting in FF/PI or regular (non-RWZ) missions.
It's like filling a bucket with an eyedropper, sure, but every little merit helps, right?
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Personally, I'm willing to pay (almost) any price when it comes to quality crotch armor.
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Originally Posted by MGoblin256
This is the only Vanguard costume part that I have a problem with in regards to price.
I can purchase the chest armor, which comes with two chest details in addition to the chest texture for 50 merits, and I can purchase those wicked Talso- err, "Vanguard" blades or a Redding Rifle for a mere 100 merits. But I have to pay 200 merits for a texture that can be used for - what? - two categories of leg wear? Outrageous! IMHO, it should cost the same as the chest items. |
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Too. Much. Information.|
Originally Posted by TimeLord
Personally, I'm willing to pay any price when it comes to quality crotch
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http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36641/My-Little-Exalt
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Yeah impervium laced unobtanium is the way to go!
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Originally Posted by TimeLord
Personally, I'm willing to pay (almost) any price when it comes to quality crotch armor.
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I sure hope there's padding on the inside. Otherwise there'll be bruising like a metaphor I don't have.
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Originally Posted by ebon3
Yeah impervium laced unobtanium is the way to go!
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That would be great|
Originally Posted by Ironblade
For example, what if we got a reward window at the end of Dark Watcher's arc:
Claim Reward: - 18 Reward Merits - 180 Vanguard Merits |
/still pinning to go on a ship raid
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Originally Posted by tanstaafl
That would be great
/still pinning to go on a ship raid |
Yes, I would very much like the ability to pick Vanguard merits instead of Merit mertis at the end of War Zone arcs. But, of course, I'm biassed, in that I have absolutely no use for Merit merits at all.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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I pretty much agree. The costumes aren't expensive if you do raids, but they ARE expensive if you're trying to earn merits any other way. Increase merits earned outside of ship raids = problem solved.
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Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood
Rather than lowering the prices (ok, maybe lower them a bit) I'd prefer to see the drop chance increased for Rikti outside of a Ship raid. Currently it's about 10%, would it really be unbalancing for it to be say 30%?
I'd also like to see the Psi-bomb have its cost reduced. The other powers are reasonably priced but 150 merits for 3 bombs seems a little steep. I'd like to see it decrease to 100 or even 75. |
my lil RWZ Challenge vid
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Not that some of the prices aren't still totally absurd. |
Originally Posted by Organica
I pretty much agree. The costumes aren't expensive if you do raids, but they ARE expensive if you're trying to earn merits any other way. Increase merits earned outside of ship raids = problem solved.
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I'm for both. Maybe one day I'll get to actually use the Vanguard armor on more than one character (who it doesn't suit, and is who I did the two or three ship raids with before deciding I didn't like 'em).
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Well... I've returned to playing since stopping sometime around issue 6.
My highest level character is only 45 now. I've been running nothing but Borea missions since level 42/43 and I'm still only on shoulder piece and wrist costume pieces. I've got 100 now towards the 500 sack (which I assume is 10 more salvage to my inventory).
Sounds like I have the rather dull job of doing nothing in this game except run Vanguard missions from where I am now (45) to 50 just to get enough merits. Is that how this game is meant to be played now? That's more farming than I have to do ever in the game I've just left (cough... wow... cough)
Suggestions?
PS: I've seen someone suggest "ship raids". I've never done any TF missions and have no idea what a ship raid is. Nor have I seen anyone ever advertising one in all the time I've been trying to gain merits.
PPS: I'm not capable of taking on much more than 4 critters at a time either (ice/ice blaster focusing on holding ppl while taking one down). I can manage to get through a Borea mission set on +1 or +2 levels. But not even on -1 with multiple players set.
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A ship raid is a zone event in the RWZ where several teams of players board the enemy mothership and attack the level 54 Rikti there. Unlike normal missions you get a guaranteed merit for every Rikti killed as long as someone on your team wounded it. Most severs have them at semi-regular intervals. They tend to be organized through global channels so if you haven't already you may want to join your server's active global channels.|
Originally Posted by Kataryn
PS: I've seen someone suggest "ship raids". I've never done any TF missions and have no idea what a ship raid is. Nor have I seen anyone ever advertising one in all the time I've been trying to gain merits.
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The merit gain from ship raids is huge compared to missions in general you should only need to do 3 or 4 raids for the entire costume (and 1 or 2 more for the sack).
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| PPS: I'm not capable of taking on much more than 4 critters at a time either (ice/ice blaster focusing on holding ppl while taking one down). I can manage to get through a Borea mission set on +1 or +2 levels. But not even on -1 with multiple players set. |
If a ship raid is a regular event on your server, I reccomend it. Even if YOU dont kill as many Rikti, its what the team kills that gets turned into merits. No splitting, ever kill the team gets means 1 Merit for every member.
That might not sound like much. But 350+ Merits are common per raid, although it does vary with server and turnout.
Nice exp, inf and prestige too =]
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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the other option, maybe not as good as ship raids, but certainly more common on the server I play on, is the LGFT or Lady Grey Task Force. its 45+, and you'll probably rack up more Vanguard merits with a team doing that than you would doing missions solo.
@craggy see me on Union for TFs, SFs (please!) or just some good ol fashioned teaming.
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You're wrong on the first count as anyone who plays on Defiant will verify. It simply takes someone to actively get a raid going. Often we have 2 per week and they had them during the Halloween event. |
Originally Posted by Zyphoid
but getting a ship raid on a low pop server is near impossible, or during a holiday event.
I also think the prices on some the items should be reduced. |
The prices are fine.
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True, up until that point.
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Originally Posted by Scarlet Shocker
The prices are fine. |
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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The full Vanguard set costs significant more than the most expensive gameplay perk - the salvage storage increase. That's just incredibly backwards, IMO.
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