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How's it affect the server's if you can't even actually make the character? At the worst you'd crash. You're not sending and probably not receiving anything from the servers when you're dicking around in the creator.
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Originally Posted by Chase_Arcanum
Honestly, I posted my conspiracy theory type thoughts... now another more realistic one struck me.
A new UI right up front with plenty of (untested) back-end functionality. Plenty of room for bugs, memory leaks, and scaling issues that could affect the server as well as the client. That's probably something you want CONTROLLED access to. You have to manage the risk until you're sure it's ready. |
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Originally Posted by Noxilicious
Actually we do get another 2XP weekend with the release of I16, simply because that last 2XP weekend just kept heaping technical difficulties.
And just to stay on topic: Oh woe is me! I have to wait like an entire month before I can toy with some new feature! Whatever shall I do! Me Now Generation indeed... |
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If you don't give me access to the character creator right now, I'm going to go pre-order 25 copies of CO! 
Just out of spite!!!
Just in case anyone thought this was serious...
WAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
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I don't really care about getting access to it, I got Bloodbowl to play anyways. I'm just saying that patching up something to keep people out is lol, when they can do it during GR's closed beta instead.
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Originally Posted by Karl_Rove_Man
If you don't give me access to the character creator right now, I'm going to go pre-order 25 copies of CO!
Just out of spite!!!Just in case anyone thought this was serious... WAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!! |
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No, it makes sense, considering many of the buggable changes are going to be related to the character creation screen.|
Originally Posted by biff10426
I don't really care about getting access to it, I got Bloodbowl to play anyways. I'm just saying that patching up something to keep people out is lol, when they can do it during GR's closed beta instead.
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Having had access to character creation screens in the past was very much a privilege come out of lacking the ability to keep people out of it.
Considering that:
a) it has relevance to what is being currently tested, and
b) was never something needed us to have, or even promised us they'd keep available
I can't see what the big fuss is about.
I'd also hate to try to test it for the Going Rogue beta and have it muck up and knock out beta testers by accident or whatever for a considerably larger and more important beta. Now seems to fit the bill.
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Originally Posted by Karl_Rove_Man
If you don't give me access to the character creator right now, I'm going to go pre-order 25 copies of CO! :mad: Just out of spite!!!
Just in case anyone thought this was serious... WAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!! |
And yet my physics prof uses the bloody font on every bloody lecture slide.
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Hmm. I wonder what would happen, if we gave the players all the "Super Special Treats" all the time. | I wonder why you guys can't stick to the SUPER SPECIAL TREAT: CLOPEN BETA like with issue 15? |
Surely, players wouldn't begin to take those treats for granted, and think of them as par for the course, now would they?
Surely not. Perish the thought. It's crazy talk.
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There you go again, with your "logic" and "reason" and "levelheadedness" and "sensibility". These things have no place on the internets! -10 internets for YOU, sir!|
Originally Posted by Chase_Arcanum
Honestly, I posted my conspiracy theory type thoughts... now another more realistic one struck me.
A new UI right up front with plenty of (untested) back-end functionality. Plenty of room for bugs, memory leaks, and scaling issues that could affect the server as well as the client. That's probably something you want CONTROLLED access to. You have to manage the risk until you're sure it's ready. |
Also, I am running out and buying 1 meeeelion copies of AquaSpiderWolverBatLanternWonderTwinDoom Online right nao!! Which will forever destroy City of Gondolieros!
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Nivene announced it here.|
Originally Posted by biff10426
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EDIT : Bah, scooped.
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Stop that! Don't you know logic and facts don't belong on the interwebz? |
Originally Posted by Noxilicious
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As much as I'd like a sneak peak also, I'm more than fine with them doing whatever it is they need to do to improve server stability and to make sure it comes out out with as less bugs as possible. (Notice I didn't say bug free, as that's impossible.)
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It didn't help that i15's "Clopen Beta" was a massive mess, which I suspect will teach them better than to do those again, honestly I'd prefer they stuck to small-focus Closed Betas (regardless of if I get in or not), because it tends to turn out better issues; I'll just check my email and wait.
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What? Putting the server queue code on the test server during double XP weekend could possibly cripple most players? That's your retort to my expression of disappointment with the timing of this? That's some smart thinkin' right there ... |
Originally Posted by Obsidius
That's right, it's all a conspiracy against the common man and unwashed masses. This sort of thing should only be tested during Double XP weekend, when it has the possibility of crippling the most players. But at least then, the downtrodden won't be trampled under foot by so many elitist players and sycophants
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Let me give you the two word version of my post: "Great timing <grumble, grumble>" -- that was no more or less than what I was saying. Am I disappointed? Yes. Do I begrudge any other players over it? No. Sorry my disappointment rubbed your granular surface the wrong way, Obsidius, but I still think the timing sucks.
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Going to agree with you there. When I was in the i14 Closed Beta I really saw with my own eyes how much more focused it is (even though the devs may not always listen to everything we say in it), once it went Open it was just a big pile of chaos. No offense to anyone, just sharing my views |
Originally Posted by PeerlessGirl
It didn't help that i15's "Clopen Beta" was a massive mess, which I suspect will teach them better than to do those again, honestly I'd prefer they stuck to small-focus Closed Betas (regardless of if I get in or not), because it tends to turn out better issues; I'll just check my email and wait.
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Yeah, I was in i9 through i12, but did not make 13 or 14 (and didn't really participate in 10, cause it was all story-stuff related to Vanguard/Rikti Invasion and I didn't wanna spoil that) and I can vouch for it being a better process as far as more productive on bugs and things before it goes open, largely by open everything's done, and they're just finishing up the iron-outs. I'm looking forward to this one, but either way I'm guaranteed a slot in i17 which is the most important part (since I'm paid through next year) to me anyway. Though I'd really like a chance to test this one out, if not, I shall wait.
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Yeah, well, I was one of the people who, having previously never gotten a beta invite, jumped at the chance to be able to participate in i15's "Clopen" beta. I submited bug reports on the new TF, and have played the TF a few more times since it has went live, and still don't have any sort of "sour taste" in my mouth. I quite enjoyed my once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to actually get to test a new issue. Even if it wasn't necessarily "closed" beta. I did my part. I may never get to again, but I think my situation proves that the dev's effort as a completely open beta wasn't a "complete waste," as you make it out to be.|
Originally Posted by SDragon
But, that's exactly what they DON'T want. They did it with Issue 15. And what happened is what anyone who's been in closed beta would have expected to happen. It was horrible, buggy, and full of holes. And it soured a lot of people. I know people who STILL won't play the new TFs because of what they saw on day one of Issue 15 Beta.
THAT is what comes across via word-of-mouth. Closed Beta is not for building excitement. It's for beta testing in a "closed" environment where they can break things and put them back together without people seeing this and getting turned off. ie. No one wants to eat a hotdog after they see one getting made. |
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Originally Posted by Infernus_Hades
The way you play changes your IO slotting..
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76 characters and Twenty-four 50s later, I still love this game.
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yes we could, but being mad is just an after effect of being sad.
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I like to break things...that's my favorite part of being in beta. I don't mind waiting until open beta, but by then all the really cool broken things are fixed.
Trust me...more bug reports does not equal more bugs fixed. It will slow the process down. Closed betas are a good idea.
Well I can't wait to check it out, as soon..... (tapping foot) as it's..... (fidgeting in seat) back up so can TRY IT! (ARGGGH!!!)
impatience overload, I'm good now.
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I am able to get to server selection, but when I click on the test server, it says "Disconnected from server DB".... You might want to have that looked at. I sincerely doubt I have a closed beta invite, so I thought I'd give you a heads up on this, considering you said "you should not be able to get to server selection."|
Originally Posted by Castle
Unless you are authorized (ie: Have a Beta Invite) you should not be able to get to server selection or character creation.
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Possible bug there.
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Originally Posted by Infernus_Hades
The way you play changes your IO slotting..
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76 characters and Twenty-four 50s later, I still love this game.
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Nein, that's just the way it works if your account doesn't have closed beta access.
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Originally Posted by Obsidius
Nein, that's just the way it works if your account doesn't have closed beta access.
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I don't know about that 
I'm just LOLing at the tags this thread's generating. Apparently, nerdrage FTW
I like the tags on this thread.
Something tells me that feature is going to be a font of endless amusement.
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New Character Creator
Not only does the newly updated Character Creator allow players to jump directly between Archetype, Powersets, Costumes and Character ID in any order without losing progress, but it also allows you to select your colors and theme for each individual power or apply it to the entire powerset. These themes will allow for color tinting of geometry and particle effects such as energy blast colors and force field colors. The primary and secondary colors of any power effect can be changed individually for each power in the set.
Plenty of room for bugs, memory leaks, and scaling issues that could affect the server as well as the client. That's probably something you want CONTROLLED access to. You have to manage the risk until you're sure it's ready.