I16 Closed Beta

Hyperbole FTW!!!!

you couldn't be more wrong.
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the things i have italicized are things you cannot do just testing the creator.

edit: yes, I am aware that everything is italicized.

it's over in the "Testing Colors?" thread in this very forum!

I rarely see roleplaying in broadcast on Virtue. I conclude most roleplayers speak in team, global channels, or in local. My serverless vision would not eliminate any of those options.

I believe global channels allow those gates to exist much more readily than separate servers do. All of the "other" people we might not want to let into our communities can freely log onto and create characters on "our" servers right now. They cannot join my private channel freely.

Truth FTW!!!!

But doesn't that mean you are hurting the game? What if you not being angry weakens them and they take out the heal? Give in to your anger and make the game strong! Get mad! Gnash your teeth! Pound the desk! Gnaw the monitor!

ARRRRGH!

Tempers are high on this thread at the moment, please don't take it personally. I can understand the confusion. Yes the color of dark itself is customizable, I've seen screenshots from hero con, Dark looks sexy in red.

No, RP doesn't happen in broadcast on Virtue (except sometimes during RP in PvP zones), but I don't recall ever claiming it did, what I did say was we'd have a lot more griefing and Freedom-ized leetspeek in broadcast than we do now (Atlas Park excepted). You are correct most RP happens in local, team, and SG channels, but that doesn't mean I want everyone else having the potential to mess up my RP either.

Sure, if you ignore everything that happens in the streets in your once gated community (re: local) and only focus on your own house and keep your door locked (I.e. private globals) but before when your community was gated (or at least had an officer at the gates) less of those people came into it, and your streets were cleaner.

yes, they can freely log in and create a character on "our" server now, but to do that they must take the effort to do it, for the express purpose of going there, either to grief, to RP, or to hang out with friends they know there (RP or not) the same is true if you use a server transfer now. But by dumping everyone into the same "pot" now all of those people are together, without any special "effort" to be there, just everyone dumped together.

There is a difference between starting a new game in serverless (i.e. Champions) and taking a 5 year old game, with 5 year old community/server boundries and trying to force them together, and it shouldn't be done. It will, at least personally, impact my enjoyment and my gameplay experience, and considering I'm on the fence as it is (though i16 and GR look promising) this would certainly push me over.

It is the primary reason I am NOT interested in champions, is the fact they're doing a single server archetecture. There are other reasons, but that is the primary reason).

Edit: There is also the fact that, purely from a business standpoint, it knocks NC out of selling character transfers, so that's quite a bit of money they wouldn't get, another reason I can be fairly sure they won't do it.

I'm afraid that I'm gonna have to agree with Peerless on this one. I started the game on Freedom, and played there for many months. The game was fun, the community's attitude and direction was not one I wanted to be in though. I later returned to the game, this time playing on Virtue (at a friend's suggestion) and found an awesome community. Now and then I'll pop my head back onto Freedom (I never deleted the character I had there), and within minutes I find it just as obnoxious as I always did. Sometimes worse. Within moments I'm getting team invites and tells (almost always in leet speak), almost always disreguarding the notes by my name in the search window.

Now I saw this not to say One Server > Other Server, but that the communities within them are different. They've developed different cultures and styles over the years that this game has been around. While not all do, many players stick to one or two servers because they find the people or attitudes there to be what they're looking for.

Shoving all of those people, those varried communities, forcibly together into one mega-server would cause a CoH culture shock that could drive many people away. It would also result in the game's community to reform anew, into something I, or Peer, or anyone for that matter may find is totally opposite to the one that helped to cement our love of the game.

(Please forgive any spelling errors in the above, my typing is extra debuffed today )

Actually you're wrong. Bab's post was made BEFORE the closed beta started. His post was just an answer to Bionic_Flea about testing the new features and bugging ANY problems that occur. His post had nothing to do with how the start of the closed beta was going to be handled. If it was, his post would have been in the Closed Beta forum threads that only people in the closed beta currently have access too.

So either you're in the closed beta and are breaking the NDA by telling us what is and isn't allowed, or you've been talking to someone who is, and is breaking the NDA by doing so. either way.

put up or shut up. prove me wrong.


BAB knew full well that beta was starting today when he gave the general direction beta should go in that post. Don't try to say that he posted that in ignorance and didn't know the game plan for beta.

Edit: I mean, it's not like it matters either way, but don't tell me i'm wrong without backing it up with something, especially when I've given credible evidence to the contrary.

Then I will do the same.

I wasn't trying to start a fight or anything, hell I don't touch freedom because I just don't like the high population servers. so I can't say one way or the other about what happens.

edit: I just know a lot of people, especially lately, talk in that stupid text speak for some reason, and a lot of people consider that l33t.

Definitely hyperbole.

It's simple. If BAB was posting instructions to the beta testers, he would have done so in the closed beta forums (which only the beta testers can currently access). If you actually read his entire post you would see that he was just answering a question from Bionic_Flea about things to look out for and /bug once you actually get into the beta. Remember, instructions to the beta testers would not be visible to to people not in the beta.

so avoiding the point of my previous post.

cool.

My guess is that they want to get the queue system down and coded correctly for the new XPac. This way when that system goes live everything is in place and things will be much more smooth than the CoV launch.

Just figured it was worth noting that I've never seen anyone ((talk in OOC quotes)) on any other server, much less in local or broadcast. I've also never seen Pocket D populated by people who aren't just passing through on any other server. Virtue is different. It's not hard to notice it.

Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.

I can understand your concerns. In order to alleviate those concerns then we would want to maintain some divisions beyond just global channels, and it may be entirely appropriate to utilize more than one method. One obvious method is multiple instances (Atlas Park 1, Atlas Park 2, etc.). Another method is the fluctuating instances (like Guild Wars, and apparently CO have).

Another method is to maintain the current servers as is, but place the character choice first. Start Game, Check for Updates, Load Log-in Server, Log-in, Load Character Selection Screen, Choose Character, Load Server Select Screen, Choose Server. That way your characters are not limited to one server, you can maintain current communities, but if you find a need or desire to head somewhere else, it is a simple matter of logging out and then logging back into another server for that night, that play session, the next hour (this idea could be accomplished with multiple static instances instead of random, fluctuating instances).

Having enjoyed some events on Test where I can join up with forumites I would normally not be able to play with because we are on a variety of servers, I have found that I am really addicted to the idea of being able to play the character I want, with the people I want.

Possibly. It is hard to say what would generate more revenue, as I believe there is a lot of potential business lost due to the server structure in this game.

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