Huh, you know? Based on a few posts about buffing them harder if they ask for them not to, next time a Cold Dom buffs me when I ask them not to on purpose (which is usually never, only toon of mine right now that gets almost no benefit is my softcapped /SR Scrapper), I'm going to quit moving and start shouting something to the effect of "Help! The Cold Dom froze me in place! I can't move!"
Even if I get kicked, it'd be worth it.
Though speaking of kicking, if someone was giving people buffs on purpose they didn't ask for and I was the leader, I'd kick them. A team that's getting along and cooperating is worth much more than a malicious buffer, no matter how good they are.
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Huh, you know? Based on a few posts about buffing them harder if they ask for them not to, next time a Cold Dom buffs me when I ask them not to on purpose (which is usually never, only toon of mine right now that gets almost no benefit is my softcapped /SR Scrapper), I'm going to quit moving and start shouting something to the effect of "Help! The Cold Dom froze me in place! I can't move!"
Even if I get kicked, it'd be worth it.
Though speaking of kicking, if someone was giving people buffs on purpose they didn't ask for and I was the leader, I'd kick them. A team that's getting along and cooperating is worth much more than a malicious buffer, no matter how good they are.
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Don't be surprised if the rest of the team quits because you just kicked the person providing them with large Def buffs and -Def/-Res debuffs.
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Huh, you know? Based on a few posts about buffing them harder if they ask for them not to, next time a Cold Dom buffs me when I ask them not to on purpose (which is usually never, only toon of mine right now that gets almost no benefit is my softcapped /SR Scrapper), I'm going to quit moving and start shouting something to the effect of "Help! The Cold Dom froze me in place! I can't move!"
Even if I get kicked, it'd be worth it.
Though speaking of kicking, if someone was giving people buffs on purpose they didn't ask for and I was the leader, I'd kick them. A team that's getting along and cooperating is worth much more than a malicious buffer, no matter how good they are.
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LMAO @ "malicious buffer"
I've run teams before. I've kicked the good player who was causing problems before. Usually the team is grateful and performs better once the blimp-sized ego is gone. And that person usually isn't the only one providing the buffs and debuffs, since I try to recruit several defender/controllers as opposed to just one. I've never ran a team that wasn't successful before (not counting my noob days when I didn't know what I was doing), even when half of them were incompetent.
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Me too. You know you have a problem when you decide that someone, somewhere, pressing a button to keep your character from dying is somehow malicious. Honestly, TwilightPhoenix, take one step backward and look at how stupid that sounds. Someone is maliciously improving your character's combat attributes? That only works if you don't know what malicious means.
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If only, perhaps a new shield set is required for this...
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Me too. You know you have a problem when you decide that someone, somewhere, pressing a button to keep your character from dying is somehow malicious. Honestly, TwilightPhoenix, take one step backward and look at how stupid that sounds. Someone is maliciously improving your character's combat attributes? That only works if you don't know what malicious means.
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This and anyone who doesn't accept any/all buffs. Common, buffs keep the team going... yes, even SB!! I team with people that complain about SB, I keep telling them to hit follow on the mob so they won't bypass it. Ya know... it ususlly works.
"every defender needs to fight. I don't care if you have to use BRAWL!"
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I wonder if the name "Malicious Buffer" is taken. Great name.
When my main was in its mid teens (I1 or 2ish) I had someone ask me to turn off my dispersion bubble because they said it drained their end. Not MY end, theirs.
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"....you are now tackle free for life."-ShoNuff
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I wonder if the name "Malicious Buffer" is taken. Great name.
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It is now. I was looking for a reason to run a cold defender through the ranks, and I have it 
Woulda been Kin, but I've played too many levels of that.
laughs. My wife plays a kinetic and got annoyed about all the SB plz messages so jokingly told her just slot it with 3 run enhancers. she did. That is the closest I can think of being a malicious buffer
"...well I have wrestled with reality for thirty-five years, Doctor and I am happy to state I finally won out over it." Elwood P Dowd (from the movie Harvey)
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Me too. You know you have a problem when you decide that someone, somewhere, pressing a button to keep your character from dying is somehow malicious. Honestly, TwilightPhoenix, take one step backward and look at how stupid that sounds. Someone is maliciously improving your character's combat attributes? That only works if you don't know what malicious means.
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You know, I looked up the word Malicious and it means:
(given to, marked by, or arising from malice)
which made me search what malice means:
( desire to cause pain, injury, or distress to another)
Now, looking at the situation a Malicious Buffer, as odd as it sounds, is correct. A person who is using a tool, that while it does help, is not wanted by its target and its use on them can be intentionally avoided but is not in an attempt to cause distress to them.
Oh, and btw, here is distress for you:
(: pain or suffering affecting the body, a bodily part, or the mind
Now, I must admit that it is pretty retarded to not want a buff but if a person asks to not be buffed then I figure its there loss. When they realize that they are the only one on a team dying because they are missing the buff then they may ask for it. If not, then oh well and if there not dying then they possibly could stand to live without it. At the same time it would be that person that I would be last to rez if there were other, btter , choices because I don't feel they are making good use of the tools available to them. Now grated this isn't true if they are holding there own well and are substantial help without buffs although this doesn't happen that often.
(Definitions from http://www.merriam-webster.com)
..... sigh I feel like a nerd now XD
Dreaded Wail hits things freakin' hard.. i like to hit things freakin' hard... so.. id go Wail... SAVE THE WAILS!!!! - Solar_Lunata
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And Speed Boost isn't good for ANYONE on that multi-tiered cave map *shudders*. A slightly faster refresh (on a generally already full attack chain by level 16 anyway) isn't going to help if you keep falling 6 stories below your target.
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You probably already know this but, on that map: Start on the bottom level and work up. Much better to fall into an area you've already cleared. And someone WILL fall.
Mini-guides: Force Field Defenders, Blasters, Market Self-Defense, Frankenslotting.
So you think you're a hero, huh.
@Boltcutter in game.
I've never had it happen to ME, and I'm not really sure how i'd handle it...
I mean, when I'm a kin, and someone asks for no SB, i respect that as best i can. Sometimes i get cought up in my buff cycle and he gets buffed... ops. Sometimes i hit SB instead of syphone speed, and, suprise suprise, the mob was targeting him... ops... or, sometimes i just forget... my bad... i never do it out of spite, but have been accused of it... and chew out many times. It leaves me a tad unsympathitc to people honestly, i appoligies, i admit i made a mistake, but it's not enough apperently. anyway, mini rant over, i try as a kin to respec there wishes, even inspite of some of their mistreatment.
on my thermal, once i learned my shields accually screw with peoples frame rates and hurt there game play signifiently, i when to great lenghts to respect there wishes, but again, i'm human, and apperently i suck, so mistakes happen... again, i try my best to accomidate...
but bubbles, bubbles were my safe haven... no one EVER complained... and I didn't get my head bitten off. and honestly, i have a hard time foressing a vaild complaint for my buffs... If people start... I may snap... 
no really... it's one thing to complain " I can't handle the speed..." ok, i can understand that... or "it screw up my frame rates and i can see crap." that ones pretty darn valid... but "dude, green so clashes with meh tights... no more please..."
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And then asking me to turn MY buff off too?
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Depending on my mood and how long it had been since someone had last chewed me out for buffing them on accdent... my respeonc would range from a miled "say what???" to a 3 day suspinsion...
Anyways, i'm glad i haven't found this to be a problem for me. heh.
And in all honesty, i have lately had anyone requesting no buffing in general... and it's been months since the last time someone rode my backside for having a human moment on my kin or thermal.
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My common sense is tingling... ~ Deadpool
If you can't learn to do something well... learn to enjoy doing it poorly...
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Huh, you know? Based on a few posts about buffing them harder if they ask for them not to, next time a Cold Dom buffs me when I ask them not to on purpose (which is usually never, only toon of mine right now that gets almost no benefit is my softcapped /SR Scrapper),
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You do know softcap is only 45% defense, and with that it only means that an even level minion has a 5% chance to hit you, anything above that they get better. So I wouldn't turn down any buffs.
My DB/SR scrappers sits at 58% defense in all positions, if I get lucky enough to get on a team with a bubble defender, I ask them to keep bubbles up on me, makes me have perma crashless Elude (also justifies me for not taking it either.)
I don't care if the power makes me have smelly line that make my toon look like it stinks, a well slotted FF/ Defender can softcap a whole team and not getting hit is better than any type of heal.
I have never been blessed enough on any of my toons to be on a team with 2 FFs I would want to try that one day.
"Yes, winning all the time can be boring."
-Knight_Chill
"It's amazing how well you can put up with endurance issues if you hide them under a large enough pile of bodies."
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My vid card got old and bad a few years back and I had to switch to lower settings to play at all for a week. not a fun week.
If I had to play like that all the time I would rather not play.
If in basic gameplay I cannot accept buffs and fully contribute to my teams I would rather not play.
Memory is cheap, a decent card is pretty cheap. make it work. or play something that your computer can support... like minesweeper...
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A decent card is cheep? By who's standard of cheep? My monthly income is about $685 for instance. Rent costs 192 a month, phone/net is 70 a month on average, food is about 150 a month usually. Right now though I've had to cut various things since I'm paying as much for my new tower (old pc tower died horribly) each month as I am paying for rent.
Entertainment right now takes about $40 of my $50 dollar disposable income per month. So, how do you think I'm gonna be able to afford a couple hundred for a better graphics card then I have? I have one I'm happy with, the radion x1600. By your definitions I'm guessing that's old, out dated, and in need of replacement. So, explain to me where I'm going to find the money for that 'cheep' graphics card you mentioned,
Don't assume everyone has two to three hundred dollars laying around they can spend on a graphics card.
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a x1600 card is completely fine for running this game, so if you're having problems running it either lower the graphics some more, upgrade your memory, or clean up whatever is hogging all your ram in the background.
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I agree that an x1600 is just dandy for current gen games. The post I just responded to expoused a viewpoint I see very often in the tech section. That of "if your not spending several hundred on the newest graphics card your card isn't 'decent'.
And if I hadn't been able to scrounge up the money for the x1600 I'd still be using an x300.
"The danger is not that a particular class is unfit to govern. Every class is unfit to govern." Lord Acton
Madam Enigma's History
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LMAO @ "malicious buffer"
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Me too. You know you have a problem when you decide that someone, somewhere, pressing a button to keep your character from dying is somehow malicious. Honestly, TwilightPhoenix, take one step backward and look at how stupid that sounds. Someone is maliciously improving your character's combat attributes? That only works if you don't know what malicious means.
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You ask for player X not to give you buff Y. You have very specific reasons for this. Be it health issues caused by the buff, control issues, or graphics issues. The person then deliberately keeps buffing you out of malicious intent. They are now impacting your ability to enjoy the game just because they think everyone 'must' accept and love buff Y.
Just because it improves a combat attribute, that doesn't mean it can't be done maliciously.
"The danger is not that a particular class is unfit to govern. Every class is unfit to govern." Lord Acton
Madam Enigma's History
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LMAO @ "malicious buffer"
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Me too. You know you have a problem when you decide that someone, somewhere, pressing a button to keep your character from dying is somehow malicious. Honestly, TwilightPhoenix, take one step backward and look at how stupid that sounds. Someone is maliciously improving your character's combat attributes? That only works if you don't know what malicious means.
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This and anyone who doesn't accept any/all buffs. Common, buffs keep the team going... yes, even SB!! I team with people that complain about SB, I keep telling them to hit follow on the mob so they won't bypass it. Ya know... it ususlly works.
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Yes it 'usually works'. And that's how I adapted to always moving at high speed with Madam Enigma. So, does that mean my plant/fire dom should keep hitting Follow while targeting a mob just because some team mate refuses to accept that I don't want speed boost? Doing that will negate the effectiveness of my cone based controls, as well as the effectiveness of fire breath.
How about my dark defender trying to leverage fearsome stare, should I always be using Follow, thus negating my ability to line up cones to hit as many foes as possible? Because speedboost is making it harder to line those cones up.
"The danger is not that a particular class is unfit to govern. Every class is unfit to govern." Lord Acton
Madam Enigma's History
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LMAO @ "malicious buffer"
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Me too. You know you have a problem when you decide that someone, somewhere, pressing a button to keep your character from dying is somehow malicious. Honestly, TwilightPhoenix, take one step backward and look at how stupid that sounds. Someone is maliciously improving your character's combat attributes? That only works if you don't know what malicious means.
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You ask for player X not to give you buff Y. You have very specific reasons for this. Be it health issues caused by the buff, control issues, or graphics issues. The person then deliberately keeps buffing you out of malicious intent. They are now impacting your ability to enjoy the game just because they think everyone 'must' accept and love buff Y.
Just because it improves a combat attribute, that doesn't mean it can't be done maliciously.
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That's too bad. As a support character, I'll put buffs out on everyone at all times whether they like it or not. If they don't, kick me.
So if I'm playing my fire blaster and a teammate says I shouldn't use certain attacks because he doesn't like fire, does that mean I should stop because I'm impacting his ability to enjoy the game? Stop being ridiculous.
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I have an SG mate who has this issue with Thermal shields. Found out the hard way when I hit her with Fire and Plasma shields with my mind/thermal troller. After about ten minutes she was done for the day. Knowing that, I ask teams when I use my mind/thermal if everyone is okay with having the shields on their toons.
She has the same issue with the graphics that show up when you're doing warhead runs in Warburg as well. We got her to do a run one morning with us so she'd have them for a STF team. She was able to stick it out long enough to get the warheads but we didn't see her again in-game for about 36 hours. The flashing sparkles of Domination set her off as well so she can't play Doms.
I've got another SG mate whose system goes nuts when he's speed-boosted on any toon normally moving faster than Hover. It sometimes winds up crashing the client and then requires a reboot to run properly.
"Lrn2ply" is not an option for these situations.
So yeah, there really are legit reasons to not want buffs, and anyone who refuses to not buff someone when asked gets kicked from our teams.
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Me too. You know you have a problem when you decide that someone, somewhere, pressing a button to keep your character from dying is somehow malicious. Honestly, TwilightPhoenix, take one step backward and look at how stupid that sounds. Someone is maliciously improving your character's combat attributes? That only works if you don't know what malicious means.
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You ask for player X not to give you buff Y. You have very specific reasons for this. Be it health issues caused by the buff, control issues, or graphics issues. The person then deliberately keeps buffing you out of malicious intent. They are now impacting your ability to enjoy the game just because they think everyone 'must' accept and love buff Y.
Just because it improves a combat attribute, that doesn't mean it can't be done maliciously.
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That's too bad. As a support character, I'll put buffs out on everyone at all times whether they like it or not. If they don't, kick me.
So if I'm playing my fire blaster and a teammate says I shouldn't use certain attacks because he doesn't like fire, does that mean I should stop because I'm impacting his ability to enjoy the game? Stop being ridiculous.
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Actually, I had such a situation crop up. A team leader asked my blaster to stop using explosive arrow. Guess what I did, I refrained from using explosive arrow. When I'm playing my sonic defender sometimes I get asked not to give someone the shields. Guess what I do, I try to remember not to buff them.
If someone asks you politely not to use a specific buff on them, try following their wishes. I've had people tell me "You can't keep up without speedboost" when on Madam Enigma. And guess what happened, while I could handle the speed on that character due to being use to high speed anyway, there was a problem with the TEAM being unable to keep up with MY movement rate. Nor did my attacks recharge noticeably faster either. They already were charging so fast that I pretty much always had my choice of 6 attacks to use. My endurance recovery being boosted didn't matter since I could already fight for a few hours non-stop. So, why did I *need* speed boost?
On Madam Enigma I ask for no speed boost because I don't need it's useful effects and don't need the +speed either. Hitting that character with speed boost isn't going to improve it's performance any. So why should I require it?
On other characters that use a lot of cone powers or require positioning I'll run into other problems. Let's say I'm playing my warshade. I WILL ask for no speed boost. I have more then enough powers and abilities that I have no need for it's +recharge. I don't need the +recovery because I can already keep my endurance topped off 90% of the time. And the +speed makes it harder to leverage stygian circle. Why is that important? Because stygian circle is my heal/endurance recovery power. Your also making it harder to leverage things like my cone disorient and pbaoe disorient. In short, your negatively impacting my ability to contribute to the team. If your concerned about me being unable to keep up with the speedboosted people, I can switch to nova and fly as fast as your running. Or I can teleport.
"The danger is not that a particular class is unfit to govern. Every class is unfit to govern." Lord Acton
Madam Enigma's History
I can understand some buffs and not wanting them due to some graphics issue/motion issues.
But if someone told me to not us a blast like Explosive Arrow I would tell them to piss off and find another team. That is just redonkuless.
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I can understand some buffs and not wanting them due to some graphics issue/motion issues.
But if someone told me to not us a blast like Explosive Arrow I would tell them to piss off and find another team. That is just redonkuless.
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Well Hobo, I could see his point. The attack's KB proc had gone off just before he said it, so I figured he was worried about knocking enemies into unagroed groups. As such I refrained from using it unless things were immobilized by KB preventing imobs. The energy blaster with us had gotten booted for reckless knockback causing six team wipes the mission previous.
"The danger is not that a particular class is unfit to govern. Every class is unfit to govern." Lord Acton
Madam Enigma's History
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Your system can't handle it? don't team period or adjust your graphic settings to make it bearable or here is an idea upgrade you memory or graphics card to something that isn't 5 or 6 years old.
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To be fair, a large part of it is server-side. This game yields almost identical performance on the live servers that Crysis at absolute max performance generates on my system. The Test servers on low-population times, though? Those are what the Live should be, dammit.
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If just for the "And the big bubble too". That's the kind of guy I have Sonic Repulsion for.
Blue: ~Knockback Squad on Guardian~
Red: ~Undoing of Virtue on [3 guesses]~