Champions Online: just doesn't cut it.
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Posted on: 2012-10-06 24:47 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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The new vehicle tech has made me happy with the things I can do in demos now |
Originally Posted by akaime
QFT, I hope they put more juice into the their development to push more content and other stuff. Their current path since to be on vehicle system development, kind of a work in progress, first 3 types. Now they are giving limited customization in terms of vehicle powers. Hopefully, next week the new alert will say what they have been working on.
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All aboard the pain train.
I tried to give CO another chance...
Maybe it was a buggy day but... Really? Server was not responding every minute, the combat cant get any more clunky (tried mouse and xbox pad), camera is a mess...
Maybe I need some assistance with settings, and used to play CO a lot in the past and I remember it was better...
But compared with DCUO smoothness and server stability, fluid animations and fun combo and power systems... CO is a joke.
I want to like CO because the awesome free power system and the crazy customization but Cryptic make it hard for me to do it. Its too damn clunky and buggy 
Any advice?
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Funny how that works.
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Originally Posted by I Burnt The Toast
Nope. I do not vote in National elections.
I guess I could amend my post to say only that kind of logic applies to the internet and politics |
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Originally Posted by mauk2
Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words.
"Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard.  Never change, E_L! |
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If the reviews on Glassdoor are any indication, you're probably more likely to be anti-NCSoft if you are an employee...
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Originally Posted by I Burnt The Toast
I love how if you are not Anti NCSoft you are an NCSoft employee..only on the internet will you find that kind of logic LOL!
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"And in this moment, I will not run.
It is my place to stand.
We few shall carry hope
Within our bloodied hands."
Meh internet created data always makes me skeptical. I mean I'm sure NCSoft is not a GREAT place to work, but I also am not going to believe a website that's main reference is past employees who may or may not hold a grudge
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Originally Posted by Dollhouse
If the reviews on Glassdoor are any indication, you're probably more likely to be anti-NCSoft if you are an employee...
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Originally Posted by Paladiamors
I love you, I Burnt the Toast!
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... You're Brou? Holy cow, I never knew. XD
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Originally Posted by MrPlayskool
The new vehicle tech has made me happy with the things I can do in demos now
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Blood Widow Ricki * Tide Shifter * T-34 * Opposite Reaction * Shaolin Midnight * ChernobylCheerleader
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I'm still optimistic, but seeing Cryptic hire Doc Aeon for STO was a bit of a bummer.
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Originally Posted by akaime
QFT, I hope they put more juice into the their development to push more content and other stuff.
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Blood Widow Ricki * Tide Shifter * T-34 * Opposite Reaction * Shaolin Midnight * ChernobylCheerleader
I think a lot of the issues with Cryptic's game development of late stem from the fact that they're owned by Perfect World Entertainment, a company cut from very similar cloth to NCSoft. They have the same Korean-style mindset of "We are infallible and people should be bowing down and worshipping us for giving them a chance to pay ridiculous amounts of money for a marginal edge in our endless-grindfest games!"
CO really doesn't fit PWE's cookie-cutter mold for what an MMO should be, so they hand resources out with an eyedropper and wait for it to crumble so they can try to shunt the playerbase into properties that DO fit the cookie-cutter.
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Um... PWE's from China.
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Originally Posted by Black Zot
I think a lot of the issues with Cryptic's game development of late stem from the fact that they're owned by Perfect World Entertainment, a company cut from very similar cloth to NCSoft. They have the same Korean-style mindset of "We are infallible and people should be bowing down and worshipping us for giving them a chance to pay ridiculous amounts of money for a marginal edge in our endless-grindfest games!"
CO really doesn't fit PWE's cookie-cutter mold for what an MMO should be, so they hand resources out with an eyedropper and wait for it to crumble so they can try to shunt the playerbase into properties that DO fit the cookie-cutter. |
Blood Widow Ricki * Tide Shifter * T-34 * Opposite Reaction * Shaolin Midnight * ChernobylCheerleader
Pet Peeve #24: When people assume all Asian countries are the same
Typical convo:
Them: So you are Chinese?
Me: No I am Korean
Them: What's the difference?
Me: (blank stare)
Me: Are you Canadian?
Them: Uhh No why would you say that?
Me: You all look the same to me.
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Originally Posted by SpyralPegacyon
Um... PWE's from China.
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Originally Posted by Paladiamors
I love you, I Burnt the Toast!
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Since when did accuracy have anything to do with inflammatory racist rants. |
Originally Posted by SpyralPegacyon
Um... PWE's from China.
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Especially on the internet.
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Dude it's not just asian countries. I've met Americans that think Canada and Mexico are part of the US because they are (to use their own words) on the same map.|
Originally Posted by I Burnt The Toast
Pet Peeve #24: When people assume all Asian countries are the same
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I've also met Americans that think England, Britain, and the United Kingdom are seperate countries.
So what you are saying is that stupid people are everywhere :P
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Dude it's not just asian countries. I've met Americans that think Canada and Mexico are part of the US because they are (to use their own words) on the same map.
I've also met Americans that think England, Britain, and the United Kingdom are seperate countries. |
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Originally Posted by Paladiamors
I love you, I Burnt the Toast!
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Don't forget the Americans who think Washington D.C. is in Washington state.
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Dude it's not just asian countries. I've met Americans that think Canada and Mexico are part of the US because they are (to use their own words) on the same map.
I've also met Americans that think England, Britain, and the United Kingdom are seperate countries. |
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Or that Washington state is Washington, D.C.
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Originally Posted by Lord_Nightblade
Don't forget the Americans who think Washington D.C. is in Washington state.
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Well, technically England, Britain and the UK are technically separate.|
Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Dude it's not just asian countries. I've met Americans that think Canada and Mexico are part of the US because they are (to use their own words) on the same map.
I've also met Americans that think England, Britain, and the United Kingdom are seperate countries. |
England is a country that shares a border with Wales and Scotland. It comprises the central and southern portion Great Britain.
Great Britain the country, varies by era, but generally includes all of the British Isles, including Northern Ireland. Great Britain, the geographic place, is generally just the Isle of Great Britain itself (which includes Scotland).
The United Kingdom normally overlaps the country definition of Great Britain but can be used to refer to all territories which are remnants of the former British Empire and still under British control.
Clicking on the linked image above will take you off the City of Heroes site. However, the guides will be linked back here.
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I found DCUO's combo system to be kludgy and its power setup to be unbearable. My advice: stick with what you like best.
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Originally Posted by Angelxman81
I tried to give CO another chance...
Maybe it was a buggy day but... Really? Server was not responding every minute, the combat cant get any more clunky (tried mouse and xbox pad), camera is a mess... Maybe I need some assistance with settings, and used to play CO a lot in the past and I remember it was better... But compared with DCUO smoothness and server stability, fluid animations and fun combo and power systems... CO is a joke. I want to like CO because the awesome free power system and the crazy customization but Cryptic make it hard for me to do it. Its too damn clunky and buggy Any advice? |
Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
-- The Fox and the Hound
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Now, talking as an Englishman, this is how I would split it:|
Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
Well, technically England, Britain and the UK are technically separate.
England is a country that shares a border with Wales and Scotland. It comprises the central and southern portion Great Britain. Great Britain the country, varies by era, but generally includes all of the British Isles, including Northern Ireland. Great Britain, the geographic place, is generally just the Isle of Great Britain itself (which includes Scotland). The United Kingdom normally overlaps the country definition of Great Britain but can be used to refer to all territories which are remnants of the former British Empire and still under British control. |
England: The country, nothing more nothing less. The land of hope and glory, the bringer of NWOBHM, Alan Moore, Andrew Wildman, Neil Gaiman, Stephen Fry and many many others.
Great Britain: The countries of England, Scotland and Wales taken as a single entity.
United Kingdom: Great Britain *and* Northern Ireland
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Yeah, moving around in DCUO is like driving a drunk forklift.
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Originally Posted by Tenzhi
I found DCUO's combo system to be kludgy and its power setup to be unbearable. My advice: stick with what you like best.
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Different base of operations, same MO. Thanks for nitpicking, but I stand by what I said. PWE is nearly identical to NCSoft in every aspect that matters.
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Originally Posted by SpyralPegacyon
Um... PWE's from China.
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Um...he didn't say anything about where they were from, simply that they shared a mindset that he's attributing to Korean companies.
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Originally Posted by SpyralPegacyon
Um... PWE's from China.
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Originally Posted by I Burnt The Toast
So what you are saying is that stupid people are everywhere :P
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Originally Posted by Lord_Nightblade
Don't forget the Americans who think Washington D.C. is in Washington state.
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Originally Posted by Scythus
Or that Washington state is Washington, D.C.
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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
Well, technically England, Britain and the UK are technically separate.
England is a country that shares a border with Wales and Scotland. It comprises the central and southern portion Great Britain. Great Britain the country, varies by era, but generally includes all of the British Isles, including Northern Ireland. Great Britain, the geographic place, is generally just the Isle of Great Britain itself (which includes Scotland). The United Kingdom normally overlaps the country definition of Great Britain but can be used to refer to all territories which are remnants of the former British Empire and still under British control. |
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Originally Posted by Gangrel_EU
Now, talking as an Englishman, this is how I would split it:
England: The country, nothing more nothing less. The land of hope and glory, the bringer of NWOBHM, Alan Moore, Andrew Wildman, Neil Gaiman, Stephen Fry and many many others. Great Britain: The countries of England, Scotland and Wales taken as a single entity. United Kingdom: Great Britain *and* Northern Ireland |
After about 15 minutes of that nonsense I hung up on him. I realized that even if I got that moron sorted out on those three names I'd have to go thru the same thing when I got to asking him if the number he wanted was in Greater London or the City of London, because our database broke London phone numbers into those two groups.
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Originally Posted by Black Zot
Different base of operations, same MO. Thanks for nitpicking, but I stand by what I said. PWE is nearly identical to NCSoft in every aspect that matters.
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The one key thing is that there doesn't seem to be as much of a cultural disconnect between corporate and Cryptic. Yes, they have money grabbing tricks they've forced on STO, but at least everyone seems to be on the same page.
Plus they've just invested a lot of money into the game, so there's a good chance they won't pull the plug just before the next major update comes out.
On the plus side, CO has Silverspar / championshewolf
On the minus side, Arcanville has a LT, but has never disclosed her forum ID
I also have a LT, but haven't played it for more than 10 or 20 hours in the last couple of years. I dredged up one of my old posts, http://co-forum.perfectworld.com/sho...yn#post1462975 , and this quote still seems to capture how I feel about the game:
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If you want to charge a monthly fee for something, you /have/ to offer something in exchange. Right now, Cryptic is operating at pretty close to the bare minimum of what a MMO can offer: keep the servers up; infrequent bug fixes; half-hearted balance passes; very, very weak content updates. But it /is/ possible to be both small AND competitive. In CO's case, it amounts to ramping up quality control (it's really, really bad right now); better communication with the players; fixing the game's lack of content across all level spans; setting public goals for new features; figuring out what, precisely, is CO's niche in the MMO world and driving single-mindedly toward filling it. |
Nope. I do not vote in National elections.
I guess I could amend my post to say only that kind of logic applies to the internet and politics