Stop blaming gw2 already!

I am ashamed to admit that I purchased GW2 2 days before the news filtered through.

Can someone please direct me to the highest building in the UK, that throwing a game box over the side would not result in injury to someone down below.

I don't know why there's so much argument about who to "blame". Besides, a cursory inspection shows that it's clearly Obama's fault.

I don't know about anyone else but I am enjoying the heck out of GW2, it is so much better then GW, Arenanet will keep getting my support.


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CoH is a turn-based Massively Multiplayer game with separate, distinct servers. its server structure is completely different than GW2's, so much so that I doubt it is even possible to transition CoH's servers into something GW2 could even use. Not to mention that CoH's servers are what, 8 1/2 years old now (or were they changed at one point then re-named the same things)?

I love CoH to death, but haven't you ever noticed how even within turn-based MMORPGs, the older ones have much slower combat than the newer ones do? This is because of hardware differences, and game engine differences because of at-the-time-of-launch hardware restrictions. Aion has much faster turn-based combat than CoH or WoW; it's much newer, with newer hardware to run on. But CoH and WoW have faster combat than Dark Age of Camelot, which is about to turn 11 years old, does. And even if they moved DAoC to a newer server, its whole engine was created back with those older technology limitations in place, so that mega-slow combat speed is all that's all it's capable of (And DAoC is one of my fav MMOs of all time, so that's not a dig.)

GW2 is a real-time multiplayer game with one overarching server and many channels of that one server, despite what they try and make it look like in the "server" list. GW1 had a zillion different channels, too. When you get a name for your character in GW2, it becomes "taken" on every "server," which alone is a dead giveaway. They can call channel 1 "Yak's Bend" instead of "channel 1," and channel 2 "Ferguson's Crossing" instead of "channel 2," etc., but that doesn't change a thing.

And each of these channels' zones have WAY lower population caps than real massively multiplayer servers like CoH's do. I played the early start and frequently got dumped into some "overflow area" as it was called on-screen.

ArenaNet is desperately trying to make this single server look like a bunch of them to justify their exorbitant cash shop prices. "Well, we're an MMO but we don't have a monthly fee...." No, in fact you are NOT an MMO, lol.

My post about GW2 here has nothing whatsoever to do with CoH shutting down. I felt this way on August 25th, right when the purported "servers" first came up and I saw what was really going on, and what they were trying to charge for this nonsense despite what was really going on.

So...You pay 60 bucks for FIVE character slots in an EIGHT CLASS game. This made me mad. Sorry, ArenaNet fanbois if you're out there reading this. Then character slots are freaking ten dollars each on top of that! So you're up to 90 bucks just to play this...wannabe massively multiplayer game coming out of the gate, storage restrictions and blah blah extras aside.

Okay, it's real-time combat like the first one, which is nigh-on impossible to do with full-fledged massively multiplayer servers because none out there can track thousands of players in real-time combat simultaneously like that. I get it. This is why games like CoH, and WoW, and EQ2, and Dark Age of Camelot, with full-fledged, massively multiplayer servers are turn-based to begin with.

So ArenaNet can't do this the same way with real-time combat. So they make channels. Even Tera (real-time combat) does this, just to a lesser degree than GW2. FPSs have always been set up with a lobby players meet up in, then it's instanced outside the lobby for this same reason. And GW2 is not *as* totally instanced as GW1 or FPSs are. Within each channel of each zone in GW2, a few teams and some soloers are intermingling. But massively multiplayer it is not. Separate servers it is not. So something equal to MMO fees every month it should not have. It should not cost you as much or more average per month to play something that is not an MMORPG.

Your mileage may vary, and all the more power to you, but this whole CoH shutdown/NCSoft announcement handled so poorly AFTER GW2 has launched is just icing on the cake in my "Avoid NCSoft at all costs in the future" book.

Having prepurchased GW2 at the beginning of August and also having played SWTOR, I believe SWTOR would have been a far more enjoyable game if it resembled GW2 instead of WoW.

Monetary wise, I wonder how much of an impact this will have on NCSoft's long term finances: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/article...ars-2-to-china

Er, definitely not blaming ArenaNet/GW2. But I am also not going to touch current or future NCSoft games. I understand that all games come to an end, and that's ok. Sad, but ok. But it matters HOW it comes to an end. And how a gaming company treats its players. And ArenaNet could give every single player a pony and I still wouldn't play GW2 right now because NCSoft has proven over and over (and over) that they have no problems killing any game in their stable without warning, or in some cases, a clear reason. And...I am not ok with that. It's not like GW2 is the only decent game out there right now. I can easily find a decent to great game that isn't likely to be killed off because the last box of Lucky Charms the board member ate didn't have enough rainbows in it for his liking.*

*Obvious hyperbole is obvious.

If you truly love COH and feel like NCSoft gave the game you loved a raw deal, then boycotting NCSoft is the logical outcome.

I'm not making anyone choose between their loyalty to COH and GW2, NCSoft did that.

So , yes, either you're with me or you're my enemy. And I do have a pair of Sith Lords in SW: TOR.

Video games are serious business.

I won't blame GW2, but it's Arenanet's misfortune that their game is published by NCSoft. So unless they decide to give NCSoft the middle finger, I won't be playing the game.

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