Tiny Bolt

I sit just under or just over 3k on my main, which is definitely a "deeps more deeping" build. I also solo a lot, and need the health. I avoid looking at build and gear advice, so I may be a really bad metric.

And Ironblade: sorry you ran into jerks. I have run into a couple people who were either jerks or just having bad days, but nothing too nasty, and certainly no names were being slung around. But they're definitely in the minority--most people I've run into have been exceedingly nice.

What the other two posters said about trial and billing. And TSW doesn't have "servers" as we know them. There are servers, but the only thing it affects is PvP and PvP effects. You can team cross-servers PvE, etc.

You're Forbin_Project*?

Huh. Learn something new every day.

*I looked at the person Thirty-Seven was quoting. It's not you, so I don't know why you're getting your panties in a twist.

Ohhh, muttonhead! That's a new one. Must write it down somewhere...

/I am so in trouble when he gets home.

I'd say depending on forum traffic, maybe make the threshold a bit higher than 3 people, since I can see that getting spread real thin, real quick. And would there be a gaming section? Or just other nerdy pursuits?

If you have an art section, I would love an AO section. Not because I ever want to go there, but that way all the people who inevitably try to post borderline/inappropriate pictures in the other sections have an easy place to go. I'm no prude, I'm just picky about art, especially about adult subjects.

For me, a third option would be great. Unleashed set out to be a very different forum experience than the City of boards, which is great, but not really what I'm looking for in a forum. Same with Titan. They're a great community for those looking for a certain forum experience, but it's not something I'll ever log into past the demise or saving of the game.

Especially with the thought of making it more a general fandom culture site, I'd be down for frequenting a board like that over the existing options. Otherwise I'm dealing with either mostly-dead forums, or well-known troll/dregs of the internet sites. Which I love, but not all the time.

Just wanted to point out to the OP, that's partially how we got so many people at the first rally on Virtue/Freedom. In-game, it's possible for the relatively tiny forum population to tell their global chat channels "Hey, head here for x reason", thus reaching the larger game world population. You can't do that on beta.

Also, for some reason beta never worked well on my computer, so I don't bother with it anymore. And, please keep in mind, the more steps you make people go through, the more likely it is that people will just give up before even doing it. If the point is to gather as many people as possible, keep in mind KISS. It seems infinitely simpler to tell people "Please log into x server" than "Please make sure you have beta installed and updated, then please copy a character over (or use one you have already) and then please also be on at x time on y day in z zone."

And isn't the beta server a separate game? What if people don't have the hard drive space for a second version of City?

Not trying to be a negative Nancy, just trying to be practical. If you're worried about "grid-locking" servers, well...what about picking two servers from the get-go? And for those who can log into their servers, picking a less-used zone, like Perez Park? And how would the lower population servers feel if we picked them instead of the high-density servers? I play on a medium to high load server, so I don't know how the lower population servers would feel about an invasion and I'm not even going to try and guess.

Now I'm just rambling, so I'll tl;dr: please, no beta if you're looking for another large rally.

I know. But they've at least had the appearance of expanding over the last year or two. Expansions, with same or lesser revenue, means a smaller profit margin. Unless they've actually been cutting back while putting on a good front, which, given other posts, doesn't seem to be the case.

Of course, without exact accounting from the offices, it's speculation. I can, however, change the post if me speculating bothers you muchly.

None at the moment. I'm finishing out City's run before I decide. From what I've heard, I'll probably like TSW or World of Tanks, so I may try those out, but that's a minimum of 3 months from now. I work retail, so I won't have much gaming time til January.

GW2 sounds like a perfectly good game, but one I'd only enjoy as a single player. I'm kind of weird in that I love crafting and smelling roses and gear grinding a lot! ...in single player. And not "Oh, I just ignore everyone around me" single player. I don't want another person on my game, at all. So I play Skyrim, Pokemon, and Runescape 2 to itch my grinding love (I'm not loyal to genres). For my MMOs, I want to blow things up and smashy smashy, with minimal grind time. WoT may be where I end up for a while because I can blow things up as my grinding time. TSW looks like it has some great concepts and stories, and the flexibility I'm looking for in character creation. Whether it delivers remains to be seen.

I just wanted to say thank you for pointing out the in-game story-line options. I thought you were kidding, so I looked it up. Evidently those are real story-lines. Because this, combined with everything else the GW2 players have been talking about in this thread, cemented my desire to never, ever play this game.

And to the GW2 players: I'm not saying it's a bad game. I'm just saying that this is not my MMO.

It's less (for me) upset at the game being finite, because, after all, all things come to an end. It was the fact that, according to everything we ever heard, the game was still pulling in a profit, thus we had a reasonable expectation that the game would continue on for a while.

It's the sudden and (seemingly) senseless loss of the game, with (so far) no way to move forward or run the game on private servers, etc, that's cutting pretty deep. And NCSoft has a history of doing this a variety of games.

Therefore, I'd rather play with a company that milks a game until it no longer pulls a profit and is dying, so I can see the end coming. Getting blindsided is not my idea of fun. And yeah, it's just a game. I rotate between about ten electronic games and countless tabletop games all the time, so I totally get--just a game! This isn't the end of my world. But MMOs tend to have an emotional attachment I don't get with many other games, and I don't want to gamble with a company that doesn't understand, or care, about the emotional attachment.