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I can positively guarantee you that this thread will be long gone after tomorrow the latest. :P

Heh.

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WAH! Now see what I did to myself? And I just logged off of CoH practically in tears as it was....

Um, in case you hadn't noticed, Nexon's implant of a monetization manager into ArenaNet before it would buy controlling shares of NCSoft isn't exactly leaving GW2 players jumping for joy over that decision these days. And there's what can only be described as a complete $hitstorm happening over the current gear changes that ArenaNet had previously sworn they would never make, too. So yay for the original 2 million boxes sold before these changes went public: Warhammer Online and TOR sold a couple mill when they launched, too, and it saved them as well, amirite? :P

And I wouldn't exactly call B & S "eagerly awaited" in the west. Judging by various blog and forum posts and player responses, many see it as yet another cheesy Korean grindfest with little to offer anyone.

And Wildstar.....Carbine should run the hell away from NCSoft while they still can. You can't tell me there aren't other publishers out there who'd be willing to take them on.

And straight from Brian Clayton, NCSoft's reputation HAS been damaged by their closure of CoH (and not just by the fact that they're closing it but by the brutish, callous way they went about the whole ordeal) and they ARE in fact worried about that. As they should be. Blade & Soul, cheesy grindfest that it is, is making its way stateside at what will still be a very bad time in NCSoft's history reputation-wise.

So I hope this also means that whomever (Brian Clayton with private backers/Valve/etc.) had previously offered for CoH will feel compelled to try once again, then!

If only it were all this simple. Did NCSoft *really* hold out for some exorbitant sum mainly because of potential legalities before closure? And if so, then why wouldn't they just have told all those who put up offers initially to come back post-closure and make more bids then? Instead they posted the "FAGHETABOUTIT AND SHUT UP NOW" nonsense on the launcher and website, making it sound like they weren't going to sell, ever.

In any case, I don't particularly hold a lot of hope for Disney, but I'm willing to take the ten minutes required to type up some letters and send them off. After all, we don't need specific legaleze, we just need to tell them what the game and its potential continuation means to us.

But I truly hope Brian Clayton and what is left of PS hasn't given up on making another bid, if this admittedly shaky view of NCSoft only becoming willing to sell post-closure actually holds any truth to it.

Do you have dial-up internet then? I can't imagine you playing CoH at all if you do,and if you have cable broadband, FIOS or even the most basic DSL, you may be quite overestimating the amount of time it will take you to get the game downloaded again.

Try downloading it. I just think for account security's sake you shouldn't be giving out your login and password. Granted, this game is closing down. But

A.) you may have other NCSoft games that are still playable on the account and

B.) you may use that same login and/or password for other still active accounts or online business/forums you use

that either way could become compromised.

I'm sorry, I do feel sorry for you. But it's just too dangerous unless you can find someone you know really well, a family member or close friend who'd be willing to do that for you. Tell them to google the NCSoft launcher download; I just got a fresh copy of CoH onto my son's machine yesterday that way and it patched and fired up fine.

What level is the character? If you can get CoH installed again, you may also want to download the Sentinel character copy utility made by someone over at CoH Titan forums and copy her as well. That way if CoH ever crops up online again in any form in the future, you may possibly be able to play her as-is once again.

I think we have to remember that even Mercedes Lackey herself described this as quite a long shot that the "Wildcard Team" was going to try and pitch to NCSoft. Believe me, I'd love to see it work as much as Mercedes herself would, but we should all know going in that a favorable outcome is akin to winning the lottery. Mercedes actually used a "it would be like winning the lottery" type of anecdote when describing a potentially positive outcome from all this on the Titan forums in fact. But she then stated she was still going to buy the ticket anyway, metaphorically speaking.

So we can cross our fingers, and appreciate her efforts, win or fail, but that's about all right now.

Thank you, Golden Girl! You rock! Even if nothing comes of any of this, I hope all those involved know we appreciate their efforts, and yours too, GG, for staying grounded, helpful and positive and not feeding the trolls. Most of us have given up, including me, for the most part. Thanks for shining a little light here.

I hear you.

However, in that case wouldn't they have instead posted,

"Please try to have patience while we work out an alternative long-term solution" instead of what is equivalent to,

"Shut up once and for all! Je$^s!"

Well! That's basically what they said to us! :P

And I would think if they really wanted to temporarily halt this P.R. nightmare, they could always post an additional note on the launcher and/or website now. But they aren't doing it.

Honestly, I think NCSoft's entire game plan is to brazen out this firestorm and hope it dies out. It's just that Mercedes Lackey, her husband, and a few others don't see it that way, and are trying a last-ditch, long-shot plan to get the game going again post-shutdown under someone(s) else.

I really don't think NCSoft is planning on selling either now or after the game closes down. I just think Mercedes & crew are trying some sort of new angle to get them to see that it's their most profitable choice, perhaps not only in terms of actual cash in their hands but also as a salvaging of their rightly-earned, HORRIBLE reputation here in the west.

And I'm not sure that anything, saving CoH included, could ever completely repair that.

Thank you, Golden Girl, for posting this! Is this quote off the Titan forums? I did previously see Mercedes Lackey over at Titan mentioning a long shot she and a few pals over there were trying to pull together, so this additional info doesn't surprise me at all. She is another great ally we have in this fight to save CoH, and she's not one to give up. She actually mentioned prefacing all her future works with a permanent anti-NCSoft rant, not totally unexpected as she has actually written multiple stories about her CoH main that are still in print. She's really into this game, and even wrote some arcs for it.

I'm thrilled that Brad is finally going public with *something.* He's one of the missing links from this whole ordeal. And I'm ultra-thrilled (and I secretly wondered this myself) that most of the Paragon Studios team could still get pulled back if CoH's future changed.

Even if this falls to dust, thanks for posting REAL news and not attention-grabbing false b.s. like so many others have littered the forums with. And thanks to Mercedes Lackey and the others involved in this not-giving-up, last-ditch effort they're trying to pull together, whatever happens.

Thank you, Toast; you just gave me the biggest laugh I've had all day.

Wow, wut? :P Unless NC has decided to make him the Token PS Guy to try and take the edge off our anger at their new releases....

Eesh. Oh well, I'm glad he's putting bread on the table, but personally I don't think I could work for a company that so nastily canned my entire former dev team and so unfairly deep-sixed a game I'd worked on.... Color me surprised on that one.

At least with Zwill and EA, he probably doesn't have any past negative experiences with them so they're more of a blank slate with a bad rep....