Stop blaming gw2 already!

There is no GW2 free trail atm.

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They must have a CoH 2 in development somewhere, I would regard CoH as much more of a success than GW1. Now if the first one can last eight years there's no telling how long a 2nd would.

Good to see gamers standing up for our community in solidarity. Wish we had more of that here .

I don't have to listen to you, you're not my real dad!

...are you!?

MMO's are addictive especially when you particularly enjoy one in specific, for me now a publisher welds to much power with your addiction.
Any new MMO that I purchase will have to be vetted for which publisher publishes it, I will take no more chances with getting addicted to a game to have it pulled from beneath me without warning.

I don't blame people for looking at NCsoft in a different way now, I also think game designers will also take a 2nd look at NCsoft before approaching them to publish their games for them.

This has been a big mistake by NCsoft and I feel sorry for the companies that are associated with them, but I won't take a risk in investing time and money into games that are published by them any more.

I live by a certain rule

Burn me once, shame on you
Burn me twice, shame on me
Burn me thrice, bend over and take it and stop crying like a baby, I have no time for people who don't take notice of the previous times.

Ironically, living by this rule, all those CoX players really shouldn't have complained.

/sarcasm

(yes, this will be game number 5 (or 6 if you include the closure of Lineage in the western market) that they would have closed down.

We sure are. At least a bunch of us are. Join us!

Only if COX players were aware of it prior to now. I was aware of the car game, didn't know much about the others until now because I didn't play any of those. I was only aware of the car one because a friend played it.

He is wrong though. It's not a "Generic Fantasy Game Trying to Be WoW." So his post was, actually, completely wrong. No wrong in pointing that out.

And I completely support anyone who chooses to do that. You're clearly thinking, you're calm about it, you're not frothing at the mouth and making a kneejerk reaction. It's completely reasonable to say "I'm not giving them any of my money because I don't trust them with it."

I'm in the same boat. I bought GW2 before NCSoft shut down COH, and bought one character slot on the same day. There's no sub fee for the game, and I have yet to buy anything in the microtransaction store except with in-game money (you can convert in-game coin to microtransaction gems - can you imagine if COH had an inf-to-Paragon Points converts?? The mind boggles!) So NCSoft has not gotten any more money from me, and whether it will does depend largely on how this whole thing goes down.

Do I feel awful for the Anet people? I really do. And later, I may rescind my decision not to give them money - they as a development studio have really impressed me with a level of conversation and care of their players that I've only seen anything like it here. But not right now.

I have not seen anyone defend NCSoft. I've seen people point out that it is a business decision - and it was, we may not understand WHY the **** they decided to do it in this pants-on-head-stupid way, because we weren't in their boardroom, but we can be assured that the NCsoft bosses are not out there twirling their mustaches and laughing. Does that make their actions any better for us, less stupid, less hurtful? No. No one has defended what they did, that I've seen.

I HAVE seen Joe outright attack people in THIS community who don't agree with him though.

It is a beautiful, beautifully crafted, game, and if you're looking to try it, you should give it a chance. Nevertheless, I don't think anyone should say that people here SHOULD try ANY new game. I just think they shouldn't write off Anet for NCSoft's sins. The game IS great, but I don't think CoH players should be looking for new homes yet - they should be adding to the media campaign to save this one.

Ugh I KNOW!!! Every day I log into that game, all I can think is HOW MUCH WOULD I KILL TO BE PLAYING COH ON THESE GRAPHICS AND THIS ENGINE!!! GAH!!!

In the given situation, and the level of emotional distress people have, any rationalization of the action is going to look like defense of the action. There is one poster in particular that is doing it in multiple threads. I note in one of them that they may not intend it, but it comes off as defending NCSoft.

I am all about freedom of posting, however I do feel that right now posting in a way that appears to be defending (even if it isn't intended) may be in bad taste. With this level of emotion people are going to take it that way, and snap.

I am glad I was out of town the first few days, and had a really slow connection that was unstable. I couldn't post, and that is a good thing looking back on it. There is no telling what I would have said.

As long as people understand that anything that comes off as defense is going to cause arguments, cool with me. Just don't be shocked when you post something positive, or not negative, about NCSoft and people attack. It is just the nature of things right now.

People are really hurt right now. As much by the their fear of the death of the community, as the murder of the game. When something someone loves dies there is grief, when it is murdered/killed there is grief and anger. What we are seeing on the boards is a combination of the two. In this case NCSoft is the murder in the eyes of many people. People just don't want anything positive to be said about the murder. I really don't see this changing any time soon.

I still haven't decided once the servers have shut down whether or not I can bring myself to Un-install CoH from my computer.

My shortcut desktop icon, has been a perminent feature on this computer, and is a welcoming sight when I switch the comp on.

I still have the TR beta install program, as well as the actual TR live client still saved on my computer... granted, they are zipped up to save some space, but i still have them.

There will be an attempt to provide that if NCSoft won't shift their position.

The way around that would be for the players to hold the cord.

Wait, so... seriously?

In your opinion, asking people to be reasonable and look at the facts is in poor taste, and attacking people who do so is fine?

Seriously?

Not really what I meant. Sure go for it, just don't be surprised when they get angry. You can ask all you like, but that doesn't mean it is going to happen. Emotional people are not always rational. YMMV.

I am also not condoning attacking people, but I do understand that it is going to happen. In most cases anger is a lot easier to deal with than grief.

My question (since you asked me one) is; What is to be gained by asking people you know are upset to be reasonable on the internet where there is already very little self control?

I don't think "I'm emotional right now" is a good excuse to be a dick to people

Never really is, but that doesn't stop it from happening. Not all people have the same level of control over there emotions. Which is why there is therapy. When I graduate I will be even more glad that there is a need for therapy. It will mean that I am employed.

Guinness is cheaper and you don't have to sit in someone else's office to drink it.

Thank you In everything I do, I try (TRY!) to be reasonable in my passion and walk away feeling like I did... If not the "right" thing, then at least something I can be proud of. It's about the only thing we can do at this point, I think - walk away with our dignity intact.

Yeah, I pulled that date out of my ***. Complete guess But I agree with you - Terror from the Deep was as solid a game as the original Enemy Unknown, and indeed superior in many ways. Decent melee weapons, for one. Sadly, the theme shift is what put the game behind the original, because the bottom of the sea, no matter what you do to it, just wasn't as interesting as rural America. When Terror from the Deep was at its best was during City and Ship Terror scenarios, when the game most resembled the original's theme.

And I STILL wish our ship maps in City of Heroes were as awesome as the ones in X-Com: Terror from the Deep, and have suggested as much. The huge cavernous and relatively empty ship holds grew old pretty much instantly, but corridors with cabins, upper decks and crew quarters? I'd have paid money for that. I guess they wanted to avoid repeating the blue caves thing...

Apocalypse, Interceptor, Enforcer... Yeah, it's like someone sat down and thought "That UFO game was great, but you know what would make it better? Make it completely different! I know! Space shooter! No, wait! FPS!" Then there is the UFO AfterWord (Aftermath, Aftershock, Afterlight) which was only marginally decent and mostly just ugly and irritating, and Afterlight didn't work for me because my video card was apparently too good. Then there was the 1950s G-man style "X-Com" game - another shooter - which is what spawned the Spoony One's "Betrayal!" yell.

So... Yeah, the less said about those the better. It's also why the new one comes with fingers crossed so hard they tangle into a knot. From what I hear, they're emphasising the game's "difficulty" and how you could always lose, perpetuating some kind of "challenge" ideology which I never got because... Every time I lost a soldier in the original, I reloaded the in-mission save game I hope for the best, because that really looks both different and interesting.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

Depends on your definition of 'dick'. I gotta be honest, some of you people come off like someone talking about how stupid owning a pet is to a person whose pet has just died.

In a strange coincidence, I bought the original X-COM this past weekend on Steam and have been replaying it. $4.99 on Steam, and it works great on my Win7 system! (no futzing necessary at all). Darn thing downloaded in 10 seconds flat. The graphics are horrible, but nothing surpasses the suspense of a good night mission or watching Sata Akira "level up" throughout the game, sweating each time she's the first around a corner, LOL.