Coffee Talk Aug 22


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Hey guys,

Nothing really new this coffee talk. They cover the new super packs, a number of the new ATOs, the new IO sets, some of the new IO set bonuses (ex getting rid of reduced XP debt, etc) . And a lot of whacky stuff with people photo bombing Zwill's camera, including Dr Aeon running by as Jack In Irons. All stuff covered on beta and the like.

Questions didn't really bring any new revelations, just Synapse confirming he does want to eventually proliferate stuff that hasn't been yet like Kinetics to Masterminds, Spines, Ice Melee/Armor to Brutes, Ninjitsu to scrappers, etc. No confirmation for anything for I25, if there's time in the schedule to do it he'll work at it (as he says he wants to do more proliferation about every 3 issues) but no guarantees there's time.

Psionic Melee was brought up but only in the fact it's been announced and is being worked on, we'll get more news when we get it.

So if you haven't heard about any of the new stuff, go look at the coffee talk otherwise just hit up beta there are plenty of threads covering the new IOs and things.


 

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Well it's just the reverse of converting a normal armor set over to stalkers, something has to be taken out for hide and he mentioned changing caltrops.


 

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Originally Posted by Blackleviathan View Post
YaY for photo bombing Zwill!!!
they need to do that more on Beta
It would be hilarious to go up to him and just say "'Sup, Zwill! Hi, peoples on TwichTV! "


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Originally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim View Post
And Smoke Flash.
I don't think Scrappers have a version of Smoke Flash, so that shouldn't be an issue.

For whatever it's worth though, I'd be fine with having 2 versions of caltrops. Probably because I just like caltrops though.


 

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How about munitions for masterminds? That'd be nice.


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I don't get the Ninjitsu for Scrappers crowd. The thematic powers just don't work, and at least 2 would need to be changed.
Here's my take on it. Ninjitsu is to Super Reflexes as Dark Armor is to Electric Armor. Ninjitsu and Dark Armor are both sets that have less passive survival (defense and resistance) than other Armor sets but make up for it with a certain amount of control. It's not a perfect analogy but that's how I'd play it.

Given that there are three powers that should probably be changed: Hide, Caltrops and Smoke Flash.
  • Hide is pretty simple, replace it with a more generic stealth power, basically a clone of Energy Cloak.
  • Smoke Flash has the problem that Placate is a lot less useful to Scrappers than it is to Stalkers (and lets face it Smoke Flash isn't that great anyway). To that end I'd probably replace it with a Stun Grenade style power (possibly still PBAoE to keep with the theme).
  • Finally Caltrops. This would actually be fine except that the devs have a rule against duplicating powers for a single character. Now for a replacement I'd give it a PBAoE Terrorize power. Maybe I'm seen Batman Begins to much but I like the idea of a Ninja that is capable of instilling great fear in his enemies before beating them up.

Now obviously this would need to be combined with a bit of power reordering as well.

The nice thing here is that doing it this way would open the way for a Brute/Tanker Proliferation as well, you'd just need to add a Taunt aura to Ninja Reflexes or Danger Sense.


 

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Originally Posted by Agent White View Post
Hey guys,

Nothing really new this coffee talk. They cover the new super packs, a number of the new ATOs, the new IO sets, some of the new IO set bonuses (ex getting rid of reduced XP debt, etc) . And a lot of whacky stuff with people photo bombing Zwill's camera, including Dr Aeon running by as Jack In Irons. All stuff covered on beta and the like.

Questions didn't really bring any new revelations, just Synapse confirming he does want to eventually proliferate stuff that hasn't been yet like Kinetics to Masterminds, Spines, Ice Melee/Armor to Brutes, Ninjitsu to scrappers, etc. No confirmation for anything for I25, if there's time in the schedule to do it he'll work at it (as he says he wants to do more proliferation about every 3 issues) but no guarantees there's time.

Psionic Melee was brought up but only in the fact it's been announced and is being worked on, we'll get more news when we get it.

So if you haven't heard about any of the new stuff, go look at the coffee talk otherwise just hit up beta there are plenty of threads covering the new IOs and things.
You forgot to mention the several trolls we picked up in the chat as a result of being on TwitchTV's front page. Hit_Streak was getting in some serious batting practice with his banhammer.


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You forgot to mention the several trolls we picked up in the chat as a result of being on TwitchTV's front page. Hit_Streak was getting in some serious batting practice with his banhammer.

Oooh, what was his batting average?

And thanks for the write-up OP!


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I don't get the Ninjitsu for Scrappers crowd. The thematic powers just don't work, and at least 2 would need to be changed.
Yeah, but Naruto's not a stealthy guy, so it's hard for people to make Stalker clones of him.


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Yeah, but Ryu Hayabusa's not a stealthy guy, so it's hard for people to make Stalker clones of him.
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well cool.

i would much prefer the proliferation of one or two or maaybe three sets per issue instead of a bunch every three issues. that's like twice every two/three years. :/


 

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>Kinetics to Masterminds
>Ninjitsu to Scrappers

Oh HELL yes.


 

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Originally Posted by Goliath Bird Eater View Post
You forgot to mention the several trolls we picked up in the chat as a result of being on TwitchTV's front page. Hit_Streak was getting in some serious batting practice with his banhammer.
The chat largely isn't worth paying attention to to begin with even when it's just normal chat.

As it is, I was only around for the first chunk of the coffeetalk. The rest I just watched the recorded vid where the chat component isn't even visible.


 

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One bit of news is that there will not be another Player Summit during 2012, so the next window of opportunity will be in 2013 ... and will probably be around Anniversary Time again (speculation) at the end of April if Zwillinger sets up another one of these.


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Don't forget, Synapse, Masterminds need Cold Domination too!
Ah, yes, the final nail in Force Field's coffin. I hope they get around to doing something about that before this happens.


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Originally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim View Post
I don't get the Ninjitsu for Scrappers crowd. The thematic powers just don't work, and at least 2 would need to be changed.
Pretty sure it's a combination of numbers/min-max + "but I don't wanna play a Stalker". Kinda annoying they expect it to go that way yet Stalkers won't get things like Shield but nothing can be done about that.


 

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Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
I wonder what sort of power changes would "blow our minds" in I25 if they have time to put them in?
Fixing Mercenaries would blow mine.


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Originally Posted by Zortel View Post
Don't forget, Synapse, Masterminds need Cold Domination too!
Also radiation!


 

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Originally Posted by AzureSkyCiel View Post
>/ninjutsu for scrappers
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The only drastic change a Ninjitsu for scrappers would need, IMO, is Caltrops due to Epic redundancy.

The Placate and -Perception debuffs can work for scrappers, and Hide can use a similar mechanic to what is seen in AE: a damage buff that suppresses on attack, doing only the first attack from hide do bonus damage.

I think that one caltrops power can safely be swapped with a passive regen power.