So... why aren't YOU pvp-ing?

To OP: Because after I13 PvP in this game went down the tubes. Up to then it was far from perfect but it was playable after that it reeked strongly and still does.

Better yet, usually in a pve zone when someone starts spouting off at the mouth (keyboard) saying idiotic things, there are a ton of people to speak up about it. So, for the most part, the type of chat you encounter within the game happens to be filled with some of the most helpful, kind, and supportive collection of people I've seen in an MMO.

Then you go into a PvP zone and suddenly the community has devolved. Fun, good natured ribbing banter between to competitive people is fine, but the type of drivel that's spat about in PvP is disheartening to see occur within this great game.

If everyone turned their chat off, then no one outside of those teamed would probably be talking to each other. You're chances of building a concentric community dwindles.

Which is why so many people that pve have the impression they do of the pvp community, only the loud, obnoxious ones are being heard. That's the "face" of the pvp community as a result.

It'd be nice if those few who "ruin" the communal pvp experience were all hunted down by those "silent majority" and beat down repeatedly until they either learned to talk nice or left. But that doesn't happen, Instead, everyone is told to deal with it, grow a thicker skin, trashed talked to even more, or told to turn chat off.

Where in the rest of the game such terrible speach is frowned upon, and even battled, by telling those who don't like it in PvP are told to basically let it be.

The community should be virtually seemless from pve to pvp. Just as with how the game play operates (except for combating thinking oponents but I'm talking mechanics here). But both are very, very different from each other, and for all those reasons you have the answer to the question in the OP.

Main reason I don't PVP: No rewards worth noting. Drop chance of anything worthwhile is like 1:100, which means you have to be done some hardcore PVP to see anything. And this is best obtained by cooperative farming, not real fighting. I don't mind PVP, but it requires a separate build style for most toons, and I'm not going to invest in being a PVP badass if I can't get a return on my investment.

I'm sure it's been mentioned before but I'll say why I don't pvp (especially now).


There's no point to it.


No reward (don't say PVP recipes because there's a chance at 'em and not a guarantee) to pvp.

Even if there were guaranteed PVP recipe drops every time I still wouldn't do pvp (okay this is a lie, I'd "pvp" and kill my toons on my 2nd account for the recipes to either sell or use) but I wouldn't actually pvp.

Why am I not pvp'ing?

Why on earth should I? There is little to gain. In various other online games, your side gets rewards, not just for the zone.
There is no proper reward in droprate to show for an investment in a build (and yes it will be a heavy investment of time and influence to get a good err... proper pvp build).
I find only a handful of PvP'ers to be the good natured pvp'er who does it for fun.
I mostly have (when entering a pvp zone) the misfortune to meet the banter, the jerk and the silent stalker (who says nothing at all, not even when you give him a direct tell or say something in broadcast/chat what-ever.) The silent one is even more creepy to me.
Those I had befriended left after issue 13 or dropped the eu server and left for the NA server (we did not have global serverlist at the time).

Those are my reasons. I can enter and probably fight off enemies, but I do not as general find that fun.
The old planned base raids did sound fun, but when you think of the possibility of 2/3's of influence gained, being destroyed. And the base reward ment for the old cathedral of pain trial (that only lasted... well not even a day before being closed... or something) then well the premise was there.

Which leads us to the present question which I will answer back with the "Why should I?"

Had we had a zone where our actions would have made an outcome. Where we could se the result of our battles in what npc's built for us. (Think a zone with two camps of explorers and what you do and accomplishes gives points towards a choice of what buildings we could make.
More pets.
The other supergame where the big Guy was the name of a certain defensive AT, had a fun scenario.
No rewards, but imagine a winter shack where there are survivors. All who enter, except one is spawned as themselves. The objective of the heroes is to protect the shack filled with people from...
the zombie apocalypse. The one player I mentioned... is spawned as a zombie. Every defeated hero becomes afterwards a... you guessed it: Zombie.

It had a fun scenario and game mechanic. You had to work together to survive.

PvP for me has to be fun, even if you loose. And yes its logical that if you have invested in the build you should gain a chance for victory, but skill should be the vital part.
I did ask a red name if we could get scenarios like the last one I mentioned, but the odds was not favorable for that.
And heck...
I'm still waiting for more items to use in the base editor. And apart from a few easy changes to the mechanic, there has not been added anything to it since bases were launched.

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I've always been a supporter of objective-based PvP.

Recluse's Victory was a try at that but again; who cares if heroes or villains win? If the rewards for the winning side were felt everywhere (for villains or heroes) then okay maybe I might be interested.


And I guess to re-answer the OP's question: "I pvp in TF2 just not in CoH."

actually given the new tech like in the personal missions, it may be possible to do a set up where you 'become' something else and have alternate powers.

[QUOTE=MrLiberty;4203580]I don't PvP because there is no one left to PVP with.

As for anyone who whines "I don't PvP because people trash talk in broadcast" You are a complete idiot.

heh, this is soooooo the way to disprove their point, amiright?

I don't pvp ANYMORE because I got tired of bashing my head against a wall while drinking russion vodka while being stabbed repeatedly like Julius Ceaser.

Yes the pvp in this game (bcast in the zones, what I see on the Arena channel nightly, plus the "special" mechanics from I13, and the utter idiocy of the pvp io drop rate) is THAT bad.