Sorcery Power Pool?


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It occurred to me that if the OCR folks pass on all the comments from this thread to the development team, there may be a developer saying something like, "Why would this give them the idea there's going to be a pool power themed around every origin? You know how they'll complain when they don't get one. We spend all this time working on a set to counterbalance that tech-y Medicine pool you OCR people say the players are always complaining about, and then they want more?"

In brief, or perhaps not so danged much brief, I think we may have our usual cycle of high player expectations based on how players would make the game, developer bewilderment, and forum teethgnashing that has been with us since the servers emerged from the primordial ooze.


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Have the mods said anything against it? If not, I imagine it's fair game.
They've edited some posts and removed some screenshots, but that's about it - no mods knocking on the door at midnight or being dragged off to the BAF for an "interview"


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Originally Posted by Olantern View Post
It occurred to me that if the OCR folks pass on all the comments from this thread to the development team, there may be a developer saying something like, "Why would this give them the idea there's going to be a pool power themed around every origin? You know how they'll complain when they don't get one. We spend all this time working on a set to counterbalance that tech-y Medicine pool you OCR people say the players are always complaining about, and then they want more?"

In brief, or perhaps not so danged much brief, I think we may have our usual cycle of high player expectations based on how players would make the game, developer bewilderment, and forum teethgnashing that has been with us since the servers emerged from the primordial ooze.
You know it didn't even occur to me that this could be a magicky version of the medicine pool.

Mind you if it is literally the medicine pool with different animations then that's quite a blow against Power Pool customisation.


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They've edited some posts and removed some screenshots, but that's about it - no mods knocking on the door at midnight or being dragged off to the BAF for an "interview"
Maybe they just don't remember being at the BAF...


 

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Maybe they just don't remember being at the BAF...
I'm pretty sure that a large section of the player base could draw a map of the BAF from memory by now


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You know it didn't even occur to me that this could be a magicky version of the medicine pool.
I doubt that it's simply "magic-themed medicine." My point was that if someone hears, second-hand, that "Players don't like the technology focus of the Medicine pool," a powerset designer might think, "To make those players happy, let's make our next power pool, of any kind, emphatically not-technology." This doesn't necessarily make Sorcery and Medicine interchangeable or even remotely similar.


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You know it didn't even occur to me that this could be a magicky version of the medicine pool.
I've heard of power lists that suggest otherwise.


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I've heard of power lists that suggest otherwise.
Same. Of course, everything at this stage of development is subject to massive change, including being changed to "never being released."


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I've heard of power lists that suggest otherwise.
wow if its just a medicine clone using a wand I wont waste my money.

Wand animation for medicine should be a CUSTOMIZATION option not something I have to pay for as a separate power set.


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You're totally misreading what I wrote
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You're totally misreading what I wrote
Well please explain it to me so I can stop worrying that it's what I thought you were saying =\


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Well please explain it to me so I can stop worrying that it's what I thought you were saying =\
That's like Batman asking the Riddler to explain one of his clues mate.


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That's like Batman asking the Riddler to explain one of his clues mate.
Not really

She said "from the rumored power list it is not medicine"

He said "Well I'm not wasting money on medicine redux!"

She said "I said it's not medicine redux..."

Simple easy conversation...


 

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I apologize for misunderstanding... I took what GG was saying as confirming it was a medicine clone. I am pleased that it seems to not be that.


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Not really

She said "from the rumored power list it is not medicine"

He said "Well I'm not wasting money on medicine redux!"

She said "I said it's not medicine redux..."

Simple easy conversation...
Leave it to you to take that comment seriously.....WOW.....


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Leave to you to take that comment seriously.....WOW.....
All bets are off when it concerns GG, you should know this.


 

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I wouldn't mind it, instead of being origin specific and banned from the others, simply giving a boost to the abilities within, should your origin match. Like with the Nemesis Staff or Blackwand. Perhaps a large bonus for an exact match, and a smaller bonus if the origin is one that is linked by DOs.

That sounds reasonable to me, but I don't have to program it.


 

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I wouldn't mind it, instead of being origin specific and banned from the others, simply giving a boost to the abilities within, should your origin match. Like with the Nemesis Staff or Blackwand. Perhaps a large bonus for an exact match, and a smaller bonus if the origin is one that is linked by DOs.

That sounds reasonable to me, but I don't have to program it.
this would be awesome. tiny bonus granted if it matches your origin, but open [and effective/fun/useful] for all ATs and Origins.


 

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Leave it to you to take that comment seriously.....WOW.....
Except GG is not the only one with 'sources'.

Sorcery is by far and away NOT a Medicine clone. Other than that detail, nothing more.


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Woah, a new power pool instead of a new prim/secondary pool.

Think that's a first.

So, what, maybe ground-targeted powers like 1) Rune of Defense for some protection (CC protection for squishies gimmie), 2) Sigil of Warding as a lightning bolt trap, 3) Symbol of Fear for debuffing, 4) Barrier of Repulsion for repel that whip out a magic wizard staff to animate creating?


 

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this would be awesome. tiny bonus granted if it matches your origin, but open [and effective/fun/useful] for all ATs and Origins.
Yes, this. I agree. It gives origins a purpose without limiting power choices.
Win/win.
Also, I hope if that is the case they will sell origins tokens at store.
Could use a few.


 

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Yes, this. I agree.
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It gives origins a purpose without limiting power choices.
+1
Win/win.
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Also, I hope if that is the case they will sell origins tokens at store.
Could use a few.
Me too !!! I think it's terrific as an idea. Terra Volta TF gives a pretty "plausible" in game explanation for respecs, but I think about one of the other MMO dedicated to SH. In this game, you get "retcons" as respecs, I like the idea thinks it's a damn good one.
Let's think about, say, a radioactive lad, bitten by an irradiated spider, who discovers it was all part of a cosmic and somewhat magical scheme and he was specifically chosen by a great spider spirit. The guy might no longer be of Science origin, but Magic. Sure, nobody would ever write such a highly improbable plot, but still...
I can imagine tokens but also "retcon" mishs, where you might change your origin. Totally comic book to me, not unlike the DC multiple Crisises. It even happened at least once in COX when the "real" Statesman, Tyrant and Recluse origins were revealed.


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I think this is a very shrewd move.

Some players never play alts, so they don't buy new powersets, but everyone can spec in a new pool power.

I think in power and style these will be more like a Patron set than the existing pool powers. It's just been made a pool power so 1) it can be sold to players who haven't got to 38, and 2) they don't need to make 5 different versions.

It's unlikely that it will be affected by origin, since 1) they want to sell to everyone, and 2) They will want to put only one in at first, to see how successful it is, and they don't want to give an overal advantage, even a small temporary one, to Magic origin.

One thing to remember. This is definitely NOT going to be free content. It is very commercial.


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I love the idea of origin based power pools. I hope we see a pool for each origin, I would buy each of them.


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